Why is revenge acceptable for Shikamaru and Team Asuma

[Blackwatch]

But not for Sasuke or Naruto? Kishimoto has restricted them and has stated countless times that revenge will only bring one's own undoing. Sasuke is an outcast and international criminal for wanting his revenge, as well as painted as an absolute lunatic and hypocrite, while Naruto was not permitted to avenge the murders of his master or parents and was painted as too naive and trusting.

But when Shikamaru and Team Asuma wanted to find Hidan and Kakuzu and kill them for taking Asuma out, Kakashi was all about it and was a key factor for them getting revenge. So what is this shit?

 

[Corvo]

Good point.

 

[Awkward Linguist]

Team Asuma are fodders. Revenge? Lol what can they do? Lol Sasuke on the other hand can one shot villages. There is a difference, therefore Sasuke was restricted

 

[Mellow]

because team asuma had to be relevant at one point

 

[iBrezeeh]

Team Asuma are fodders. Revenge? Lol what can they do? Lol Sasuke on the other hand can one shot villages. There is a difference, therefore Sasuke was restricted

This. ^^^^^^^^^^^^

 

[Sound]

Sasuke's revenge is limited to Konoha elders. He tried to involve all Konoha.

Naruto is supposed to understand and educate people about hate.​

 

[TrollKing]

Kishi is a contradiction himself. The theme itself is nothing but contradiction which is moronic

 

[Punk Hazard]

They were criminals. It was justice.

 

[Lightbringer]

Because Sasuke rustled jimmies

 

[Corvo]

Who cares? It was still revenge

 

[TrollKing]

Who cares? It was still revenge

People believe in righteous revenge and wicked revenge . What's the difference?? The difference is very subjective, so they are essentially the same

 

[Punk Hazard]

Who cares? It was still revenge

Sasuke's revenge was not justified. He wanted to kill innocent people that had nothing to do with the Uchiha massacre. Not only that, but the Uchiha clan needed to be wiped out because they planned to cause a coup and civil war, which would result in many deaths, and leave Konoha vulnerable for attack and war. Killing the Uchiha was the lesser of two evils, and needed to be done because it saved lives that would have been ended if they were left alone.

Yeah, they were both revenge, but Shikamaru's revenge was justified, Sasuke wanted to kill innocent people that had nothing to do with his problems.

 

[Corvo]

Revenge is revenge. Kishi contradict himself again.

 

[TrollKing]

Sasuke's revenge was not justified. He wanted to kill innocent people that had nothing to do with the Uchiha massacre. Not only that, but the Uchiha clan needed to be wiped out because they planned to cause a coup and civil war, which would result in many deaths, and leave Konoha vulnerable for attack and war. Killing the Uchiha was the lesser of two evils, and needed to be done because it saved lives that would have been ended if they were left alone.

Yeah, they were both revenge, but Shikamaru's revenge was justified, Sasuke wanted to kill innocent people that had nothing to do with his problems.

"Innocent people" is not accurate, it was not his intention.

And it seems you justifying the massacre of innocent people. There were innocent people in uchiha. Only a dictator would agree with such massacre

 

[Tarinth]

Because nobody cared about some akatsuki members who all of them would've wanted dead either way.

 

[V h o]

Akatsuki is a criminal organization, the leaf village is not imo. Revenge against a criminal organization isn't the same as against a village.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Revenge is revenge. Kishi contradict himself again.

No. You're just closeminded.

"Innocent people" is not accurate, not only was not his intention. Even if its his intention, it won't be "revenge". Killing innocent people is not revenge, and "innocent people" shouldn't even be included in the same sentence that's about revenge

Sasuke wanted to kill everyone in Konoha and destroy the village. He said it himself, he wanted to hear them scream and cry in agony as he destroyed the village. Sasuke's revenge was that the Uchiha were sacrificed for the sake of the village. He figured by killing the villagers and destroying the village, he was getting revenge.

And yeah, that massacre was justified. The Uchiha were not innocent. The adults were all planning to overthrow the village leaders and plunge the village into war, causing many to die. If they succeeded, the village would have been weak from their internal fighting, and enemies would have attacked, causing more to die. The amount of people that died because of the massacre is far less than the number that would have died if they did their coup.

The only innocent Uchiha were the children, and there has been no indication that there were many children, the adults far outweighed the children. The Uchiha were no longer "innocent people", they were terrorists.

The world isn't as black and white as you're hoping it is, not all killing is bad, not all killing is good.

 

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Sasuke's revenge was not justified. He wanted to kill innocent people that had nothing to do with the Uchiha massacre. Not only that, but the Uchiha clan needed to be wiped out because they planned to cause a coup and civil war, which would result in many deaths, and leave Konoha vulnerable for attack and war. Killing the Uchiha was the lesser of two evils, and needed to be done because it saved lives that would have been ended if they were left alone.

Yeah, they were both revenge, but Shikamaru's revenge was justified, Sasuke wanted to kill innocent people that had nothing to do with his problems.

This its not hard to understand, He killed Danzo have you seen anyone mentioning it after? nope, but when you involve innocent people that had nothing to do with it then its wrong.

 

[4bdN]

your right it doesnt fit into the Naruto (forgive and forget) theme,

buttttt Hidan was a bastard and i did want to see him die, i didnt like when Shikamaru refered to himself as "GOD" otherwise i believe Hidan realy deserved it

 

[TrollKing]

No. You're just closeminded.


Sasuke wanted to kill everyone in Konoha and destroy the village. He said it himself, he wanted to hear them scream and cry in agony as he destroyed the village. Sasuke's revenge was that the Uchiha were sacrificed for the sake of the village. He figured by killing the villagers and destroying the village, he was getting revenge.

If they are screaming and crying, that means they are alive. Sakura is crying too but still breathing and in good health physically. And that was when he got covered with darkness the most. So saying sasuke going to kill or killed all innocent people is way too inaccurate.