SasukeUzumakiTheGreat
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So I've seen a LOT of posts filled with stuff like -
So I've decided to make this thread to show everyone why TnJ, PnJ and Sasuke-nerfing are the only options for Naruto to defeat Sasuke. And please, I'm telling you that this is a detailed explanation already, so only progress beyond this point if you wish to read my explanation.
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So let's begin :snick::snick:
This argument is divided into two parts- Naruto and Sasuke- where I discuss their offense and the other's defense towards it.
But before that, I have a proofs section, where I prove certain points to be used in the actual argument. These are things that are generally denied, but are true.
Proofs:-
Naruto:-
As you can see from above, Naruto can't use anything to damage Sasuke. He has no attacks that'll work against Sasuke at all.
Sasuke:-
As you can see from the above arguments, you can see how Sasuke pretty much solos Naruto, whereas Naruto can't even touch Sasuke. This is completely unbiased (I kind of like them both now. They're both awesome) and I have given proof for every single one of my points.
Naruto needs TnJ, PnJ or Sasuke-nerfing to win.
Imo, Sasuke'll win but not kill Naruto like last time and he'll get a hit on his forehead like last time so in the movie, he wears a bandage on his head to hide the scar.
Anyways, feel free to use this thread to prove the point to any fanboys you see. Have a nice day, week, month, year and life.
Well, you get the idea.
So I've decided to make this thread to show everyone why TnJ, PnJ and Sasuke-nerfing are the only options for Naruto to defeat Sasuke. And please, I'm telling you that this is a detailed explanation already, so only progress beyond this point if you wish to read my explanation.
. <----- Point
So let's begin :snick::snick:
This argument is divided into two parts- Naruto and Sasuke- where I discuss their offense and the other's defense towards it.
But before that, I have a proofs section, where I prove certain points to be used in the actual argument. These are things that are generally denied, but are true.
Proofs:-
1- Sasuke's Rinnegan
2- Sasuke's Senjutsu
3- Naruto's Genjutsu Immunity
So we've seen Sasuke summoning his hawk in another dimension and midair during the Kaguya Arc. In the Infinite Tsukuyomi arc, we've seen that animals such as cats are also affected by the IT. However when Sasuke summoned the hawk, it wasn't under the effects of IT. Sasuke said that only a rinnegan can fight against a rinnegan genjutsu. All rinnegan summons have a rinnegan. Rinnegan is the only way to avoid the IT. Therefore, Sasuke's hawk had a rinnegan. Therefore, Sasuke can use the animal path.
Sasuke used Chibaku Tensei in 692. Therefore, he can use the Deva Path.
It is only logical to come to the conclusion that Sasuke can also use the other paths. This is my proof for Sasuke being able to use the other paths.
Sasuke used Chibaku Tensei in 692. Therefore, he can use the Deva Path.
It is only logical to come to the conclusion that Sasuke can also use the other paths. This is my proof for Sasuke being able to use the other paths.
In the fight against Rikodou Madara, Sasuke and Naruto tried to seal Madara (One Rinnegan). At that time Sasuke used black chidori. He could use black chidori only on curse mode. Curse mode is later shown to be a form of senjutsu. Sasuke told Naruto to prepare an attack and said that he would use sage chakra. Therefore, the black chidori is a form of Senjutsu and as a result, sasuke can control senjutsu, even though he cannot obtain it like Naruto. If he is given senjutsu, he can use it.
Now, Naruto is often proclaimed to be immune to Genjutsu because he has a tailed beast inside of him. Let's go a while back to when we were told that Genjutsus don't work on Jinchuurikis.
Genjutsus are performed by disturbing the chakra flow of the opponent's body. A tailed beast can sense it and make it normal again, providing the host with genjutsu immunity.
But let's take a look at a Jutsu like Tsukuyomi. It can change the victim's perception of time. As a result, years of torture can be performed in within a second. As a result, by the time the tailed beast releases the genjutsu, the damage has already been done.
As a result, Naruto is immune to most Genjutsus but is helpless against a genjutsu which takes place in an instant.
Genjutsus are performed by disturbing the chakra flow of the opponent's body. A tailed beast can sense it and make it normal again, providing the host with genjutsu immunity.
But let's take a look at a Jutsu like Tsukuyomi. It can change the victim's perception of time. As a result, years of torture can be performed in within a second. As a result, by the time the tailed beast releases the genjutsu, the damage has already been done.
As a result, Naruto is immune to most Genjutsus but is helpless against a genjutsu which takes place in an instant.
Naruto:-
1- Ninjutsu
2- Genjutsu
3- Taijutsu
4- Tailed beast Mode
5- Sexy Jutsu
6- Omnyoudon/Goudama
7- Sword Of Nonuboku
8- Summoning
Naruto can use a wide variety of ninjutsu. His strongest (right now) being the Tailed Beast Bomb Rasenshuriken and the other elemental Rasenshuriken. The normal Rasenshuriken, Rasengan, etc.
Also, he can use chakra to aid his taijutsu with things like chakra arms, etc.
Sasuke's preta path can absorb chakra so it pretty much leaves naruto incapable of using ninjutsu. But then Naruto can use senjutsu to turn Sasuke into stone.
BUT, as mentioned in proof 2, Sasuke can control senjutsu. Naruto was told by the frog guy that if he didn't control the sage chakra, he'll turn to stone. That's why Nagato's Preta Path turned to stone. He couldn't control the sage chakra. Sasuke however can, and as a result, he can absorb ALL of Naruto's ninjutsu without turning to stone.
Also, he can use chakra to aid his taijutsu with things like chakra arms, etc.
Sasuke's preta path can absorb chakra so it pretty much leaves naruto incapable of using ninjutsu. But then Naruto can use senjutsu to turn Sasuke into stone.
BUT, as mentioned in proof 2, Sasuke can control senjutsu. Naruto was told by the frog guy that if he didn't control the sage chakra, he'll turn to stone. That's why Nagato's Preta Path turned to stone. He couldn't control the sage chakra. Sasuke however can, and as a result, he can absorb ALL of Naruto's ninjutsu without turning to stone.
Naruto can't use Genjutsu.
Naruto's pretty great at Taijutsu, but since he can't use chakra aids because sasuke'll absorb them, he has to depend on his base Taijutsu. And I think everyone here agrees that base Naruto Taijutsu <<<< Tsunade + Raikage chakra aided taijutsu.
In the fight versus Madara, it took that strength to break a normal Susanoo. Sasuke can use a PS. Therefore the above combo wouldn't be able to destroy it. Therefore Naruto can't damage Sasuke through his Susano'o.
In the fight versus Madara, it took that strength to break a normal Susanoo. Sasuke can use a PS. Therefore the above combo wouldn't be able to destroy it. Therefore Naruto can't damage Sasuke through his Susano'o.
This is pretty powerful too, but since it depends on chakra as well, no attack except physical ones will work. And if naruto gets too close in TBM to Sasuke, Preta path'll absorb the Tailed beast.
Naruto can use Sexy Jutsu to fight against Sasuke, but Sasuke's too serious to be tempted by it. He's never shown attention to girls anyway.
During the fight with Juubito, One of the hokages mentioned that an omnyoudon is 4 or more types of chakras mixed so that it can cancel any jutsu. It's still chakra, so Preta Path can absorb.
If Naruto owns it, it pretty much destroys anything in its path, but I don't think he does.
Even if he does, it's still made up of chakra (Omnyoudons) and can be absorbed by Preta Path
Even if he does, it's still made up of chakra (Omnyoudons) and can be absorbed by Preta Path
If Naruto Summons Gamakichi, Sasuke'll summon Aoda and just in case you don't know, Snakes eat frogs.
As you can see from above, Naruto can't use anything to damage Sasuke. He has no attacks that'll work against Sasuke at all.
Sasuke:-
1- Chibaku Tensei
2- Amaterasu
3- Perfect Susano'o
4-Rinnegan Genjutsu
5- Taijutsu
Chibaku Tensei is OHKO. There is no escape. He claps his hands, Naruto becomes the CT core, it's over. No matter how much he flies, the rocks will keep on chasing him. If he destroys them, more will come. He doesn't have infinite chakra.
Naruto's speed is fast enough to avoid amaterasu, so it's basically useless, BUT, Sasuke can use amaterasu in one hand, then launch it at a stone or something and then when it's about to hit, swap the stone with Naruto. It's unavoidable if he does that.
As discussed in the Naruto section, Naruto has no counter for his PS. As a result, PS sword can stab Naruto to death.
In 693, we saw how Sasuke can do genjutsus that take place in an instant. In proof 3, we see that Naruto can be affected by instant Genjutsus. Sasuke can easily defeat Naruto like he defeated Sakura.
Sasuke can match up to base Naruto in taijutsu with his chidori and/or Enton sword. It's kind of even so I conclude that Sasuke won't 'defeat' Naruto in base taijutsu, but with PS, he pretty much solos.
As you can see from the above arguments, you can see how Sasuke pretty much solos Naruto, whereas Naruto can't even touch Sasuke. This is completely unbiased (I kind of like them both now. They're both awesome) and I have given proof for every single one of my points.
Naruto needs TnJ, PnJ or Sasuke-nerfing to win.
Imo, Sasuke'll win but not kill Naruto like last time and he'll get a hit on his forehead like last time so in the movie, he wears a bandage on his head to hide the scar.
Anyways, feel free to use this thread to prove the point to any fanboys you see. Have a nice day, week, month, year and life.
