kakashi/obito can easily counter sasuke genjutsu

[Venomous Cobra]

Now this was in my head since the chapter before this and this chapter confirmed it

As we know sasuke genjutsu is fast and nearly can't be dealt with but still when sasuke used shinra tense on kurama , kurama was able to talk and look at naruto directly! !!

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So I was confused about if his genjutsu stops the victims from moving but this chapter confirmed that it makes illusions like any other genjutsu

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So since kurama eyes and mind was able to work perfectly then so will kakashi/obito in dms of course , he'll just kamui out of the erea .

Also I don't think sasuke genjutsu is that great but still I need ti do some reachers for that but for now let ne know what you think and please no fanboying -_-

 

[SayWhat21]

well i think so too

 

[Angelic.]

kakabito chakra cant be stopped!

sasukes is quantity over quality

 

[yondaime4]

I think they are 2 seperate genjutsus since they have differant effects.

Also a rinnegan genjutsu is not something an ms or even ems user can easily break out of.

 

[Trúth]

> His genjustsu does in fact paralyze as well as trap you under an illusion.
> It's like he has to make the genjustu obvious.
> Powerful enough to trap nine bijuu and have only the strongest one put up any resistance.
> All Sasuke needs is a second of Obito or DMS Kakashi being trapped to blitz him.
> Nothing suggests that either one of the could break the genjutsu.

 

[BLAZE]

disagreed and btw Shinra Tensei :|
Feats of Kakashi breaking single genjutsu with sharingan
bolded is keyword

 

[Venomous Cobra]

> His genjustsu does in fact paralyze as well as trap you under an illusion.
> It's like he has to make the genjustu obvious.
> Powerful enough to trap nine bijuu and have only the strongest one put up any resistance.
> All Sasuke needs is a second of Obito or DMS Kakashi being trapped to blitz him.
> Nothing suggests that either one of the could break the genjutsu.

Reading isn't your favorite thing to do is it ? Lol

Let me say this again
The fact that kurama eyes/brain were perfectly working (obviously since he knew naruto spot and he asked him for help ) if kurama without MS was conscious do you really think kakashi/obito can't? And with his eyes/brain working kakashi kamuis out of the erea .

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

LOL he Solo Glance Neg Diff's 9 Bijuu at the same time with absolute ease.Yet you think his Genjutsu isn't that great cause the Kyuubi was able to talk to Naruto for a few seconds? He was using Genjutsu on 9 other Bijuu,8 of them were completely under his control - and he wasn't even seroius.

Genjutsu can paralyze people.

Look at this thread.

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[Venomous Cobra]

I think they are 2 seperate genjutsus since they have differant effects.

Also a rinnegan genjutsu is not something an ms or even ems user can easily break out of.

Well that's possible, but they called it genjutsu for both times so I am thinking it's the same ability but still good point + rep

 

[Trúth]

Reading isn't your favorite thing to do is it ? Lol

Let me say this again
The fact that kurama eyes/brain were perfectly working (obviously since he knew naruto spot and he asked him for help ) if kurama without MS was conscious do you really think kakashi/obito can't? And with his eyes/brain working kakashi kamuis out of the erea .

Reading isn't your strong suit you mean? Kurama has the most chakra and is the most powerful bijuu out if them all and only he was capable of that. Are you suggesting that Kakashi or Obito are at that level. Are you just going to ignore the fact that the genjutsu was weakened over 9 bijuu and still that strong? You're saying that they could break a full force one? Ridiculous

 

[Venomous Cobra]

LOL he Solo Glance Neg Diff's 9 Bijuu at the same time with absolute ease.Yet you think his Genjutsu isn't that great cause the Kyuubi was able to talk to Naruto for a few seconds? He was using Genjutsu on 9 other Bijuu,8 of them were completely under his control - and he wasn't even seroius.

Genjutsu can paralyze people.

Look at this thread.

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The number of the victims doesn't effect the genjutsu power otherwise give me manga panel that state that

 

[Koha]

Sasuke's Rinnegan was still formed in Kurama's eye.. Meaning he resisted, not broke out..


And you saying Sasuke's Genjutsu isn't that great???? Even had Hagaromo impressed, surprised, & even remarked it... You don't think it's that great........ Overrate Kamui, but underrate the fact with just a glance he can put NINE BIJUU under Genjutsu.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Reading isn't your strong suit you mean? Kurama has the most chakra and is the most powerful bijuu out if them all and only he was capable of that. Are you suggesting that Kakashi or Obito are at that level. Are you just going to ignore the fact that the genjutsu was weakened over 9 bijuu and still that strong? You're saying that they could break a full force one? Ridiculous

Kakashi/obito had rikudo chakra in dms , besides like I said to naruto Hunter the number of victims doesn't effect the genjutsu power

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

The number of the victims doesn't effect the genjutsu power otherwise give me manga panel that state that

Are you seroius? You think getting 9 Bijuu with Genjutsu at once is the same as getting 1? Are you that delusional? And do you realize that Sasuke wasn't even seroius when he Solo Glance Neg Diff'd Nine Bijuu at the same time?

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Sasuke's Rinnegan was still formed in Kurama's eye.. Meaning he resisted, not broke out..


And you saying Sasuke's Genjutsu isn't that great???? Even had Hagaromo impressed, surprised, & even remarked it... You don't think it's that great........ Overrate Kamui, but underrate the fact with just a glance he can put NINE BIJUU under Genjutsu.

I didn't say he broke it , please don't put words in my mouth

Also I said I'll make a different thread for that after I do some research so chill , it is great (at least for now Lol)

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Are you seroius? You think getting 9 Bijuu with Genjutsu at once is the same as getting 1? Are you that delusional?

Well forgive me I Don't do bullshit, I do manga facts :/

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

I didn't say he broke it , please don't put words in my mouth

Also I said I'll make a different thread for that after I do some research so chill , it is great (at least for now Lol)

You said he was perfectly fine.Implying that he wasn't struggling to talk to Naruto for those 2 seconds.Implying he didn't have the Sharingan + Rinnegan Eye reflected from his eyes,implying he didn't have a hard time telling Naruto to SAVE them.

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

Well forgive me I Don't do bullshit, I do manga facts :/

Stop lying.Also if controlling all 9 Bijuu is the same as controlling 1 then why did Tobi have trouble controlling 7 of them when he was able to control the Kyuubi? The Five Tails even broke out of Tobi's control.

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If controlling 9 is the same as controlling 1 then 5 tails wouldn't have brocken free,while Tobi was controlling 7 Bijuu.

 

[Koha]

I didn't say he broke it , please don't put words in my mouth

Also I said I'll make a different thread for that after I do some research so chill , it is great (at least for now Lol)

No worries, look forward to reading it.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Stop lying.Also if controlling all 9 Bijuu is the same as controlling 1 then why did Tobi have trouble controlling 7 of them when he was able to control the Kyuubi? The Five Tails even broke out of Tobi's control.

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If controlling 9 is the same as controlling 1 then 5 tails wouldn't have brocken free,while Tobi was controlling 7 Bijuu.

Do you even know what obito used on them? He used his sharingan on the kyuubi but he was using the black rods to control the bijuu ......... :| :|

I can't believe that you brought me all the way to here just for this man -_-