Human rights in Naruto are nowhere to be found

slayerdanger

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Veteran
Joined
Apr 18, 2014
Messages
2,137
Reaction score
194
I was wondering, do human rights even exist in Naruto? Zabuza said ninjas are tools, and the shinobi rules Kid Kakashi always talked about sound like some stuff a dictator came up with. Also, seeing how everyone's house seems to be the same size besides Noble clans like Uchiha and Hyuuga, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of villages in NV are based on communism. Another thing that tickles me the wrong way, is the whole killing missing nins thing. Like, the right to human life is less important than village secrets being leaked? Also, the Hyuuga Branch Family BS is just sick, you saw how much our poor Neji suffered just because of that bull. Root is even more disgusting, putting curse marks on kids and those same kids have to serve a crazy old man that steals eyes or else they're killed. Where's the human rights at though?
 

Wolfus

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Mar 29, 2013
Messages
4,855
Reaction score
569
Oh, please. We have enough of that human rights crap saving criminals in real life. We don't need that sh*t in narutoverse or anywhere else.
 

Tobi98

Member
Joined
Mar 10, 2014
Messages
7,146
Reaction score
514
Well the real world ain't no butterflies and rainbows either
 

Ventuis

Leaf Village Regular 🍃
Regular
Joined
Apr 23, 2014
Messages
760
Reaction score
47
The real world is no different.
 

slayerdanger

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Veteran
Joined
Apr 18, 2014
Messages
2,137
Reaction score
194
Oh, please. We have enough of that human rights crap saving criminals in real life. We don't need that sh*t in narutoverse or anywhere else.

Human rights doesn't save criminals since they still get jail time, also, a criminal is just an agreed upon label put on people by people in power. I'd be a criminal in the eyes of ISIS for not being a devoted Muslim. In the United States, our prisons are overcrowded, and it's over victimless "crimes" like smoking weed, underage drinking, and so forth. Human rights deals with not getting in the way of people making personal decisions.
 
Last edited:

Filo

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Sep 12, 2010
Messages
5,145
Reaction score
673
I was wondering, do human rights even exist in Naruto? Zabuza said ninjas are tools, and the shinobi rules Kid Kakashi always talked about sound like some stuff a dictator came up with. Also, seeing how everyone's house seems to be the same size besides Noble clans like Uchiha and Hyuuga, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of villages in NV are based on communism. Another thing that tickles me the wrong way, is the whole killing missing nins thing. Like, the right to human life is less important than village secrets being leaked? Also, the Hyuuga Branch Family BS is just sick, you saw how much our poor Neji suffered just because of that bull. Root is even more disgusting, putting curse marks on kids and those same kids have to serve a crazy old man that steals eyes or else they're killed. Where's the human rights at though?


I mean somewhat but they aren't stressed everything is the same basic setup
 

LuckyMan

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Apr 9, 2014
Messages
7,768
Reaction score
464
Human rights barely exist in the real world too.
 

Wolfus

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Mar 29, 2013
Messages
4,855
Reaction score
569
Human rights doesn't save criminals, also, a criminal is just an agreed upon label put on people by people in power. I'd be a criminal in the eyes of ISIS for not being a devoted Muslim.

I hate every single word in that sentence. A label? Are you kidding me with this sh*t? I'm sorry, mr genius, do you wanna live without any kind of law or "label" to protect people from these "other people"? Do you?

A person is a considered a criminal(and punished as one) when his actions are too harmful to society and it's citizens. This is needed to protect innocent people and to ensure that society works.

Stop being a hippie idiot. And also, human rights save a lot of criminals in my country. And that costs another innocent's life sometimes.

EDIT: I'm not saying human rights are not needed. As you said, there are criminals who aren't as dangerous as others. And of course we can't allow personal vendetas going arround all the time. If I own a store, and a guy robs me, I would love to beat the crap out of him. But he is a small threat if he didn't hurt or threatened anyone. So my action would be unfair, specially after he is caught.

However, some criminals are extremely dangerous, and they don't give a crap about other people's lives, and they'll kill if they need, without any hard feeling, and sometimes, they even kill for fun. And we can't touch them in my country, because of human rights extremists. And then they get out, and kill again, because the cops can't shoot them, can't hurt them.

So yeah, it is saving criminals, and killing innocents.
 
Last edited:

CloyEscapade

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Jun 17, 2013
Messages
2,711
Reaction score
244
Human rights doesn't save criminals since they still get jail time, also, a criminal is just an agreed upon label put on people by people in power. I'd be a criminal in the eyes of ISIS for not being a devoted Muslim. In the United States, our prisons are overcrowded, and it's over victimless "crimes" like smoking weed, underage drinking, and so forth. Human rights deals with not getting in the way of people making personal decisions.


They are not humans, they are fictional characters that can summon animals and sometime grow gills
 

KingHashirama

Legendary Shinobi 🐸
Supreme
Joined
Jun 30, 2012
Messages
27,280
Reaction score
1,690
Basic of communism: a political theory derived from Karl Marx, advocating class war and leading to a society in which all property is publicly owned and each person works and is paid according to their abilities and needs.

basic of democracy : a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives.


^^^^^^ Communism is simply more organized. America is only a bit away from going into communism. People have Full Controll Dictatorship , confused with communism. Well i'm not surprised since thats what they use to brain wash kids in america. No country in the world is fully democratic.

And also, human rights.... their world is based on fighting.....
 

Tobi98

Member
Joined
Mar 10, 2014
Messages
7,146
Reaction score
514
And also the villages are more based on fascism then anything
 

JCW

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
Oct 6, 2011
Messages
1,572
Reaction score
87
I hate every single word in that sentence. A label? Are you kidding me with this sh*t? I'm sorry, mr genius, do you wanna live without any kind of law or "label" to protect people from these "other people"? Do you?

A person is a considered a criminal(and punished as one) when his actions are too harmful to society and it's citizens. This is needed to protect innocent people and to ensure that society works.

Stop being a hippie idiot. And also, human rights save a lot of criminals in my country. And that costs another innocent's life sometimes.
Everything in the real world is a joke too.

Everything that has happened. Is happening. Will happen is (sasuke is right) the people with power fault..

But diff is, in the real world.. If you believe you have a voice in the supreme ruling of things... Might as well be John doe
 

slayerdanger

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Veteran
Joined
Apr 18, 2014
Messages
2,137
Reaction score
194
I hate every single word in that sentence. A label? Are you kidding me with this sh*t? I'm sorry, mr genius, do you wanna live without any kind of law or "label" to protect people from these "other people"? Do you?

A person is a considered a criminal(and punished as one) when his actions are too harmful to society and it's citizens. This is needed to protect innocent people and to ensure that society works.

Stop being a hippie idiot. And also, human rights save a lot of criminals in my country. And that costs another innocent's life sometimes.

I edited my first reply to you, I'm not for protecting corrupt law breakers. But, it doesn't change that criminal is a label, it varies between jurisdictions. For example, I don't consider a pot smoker or an underage drinker a criminal when I see them since that's unnecessary.
 
  • Like
Reactions: JCW

SoupAddicttt

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
May 14, 2012
Messages
1,266
Reaction score
100
Oh god, narutobase really is such a fun thing to see. :rolleyes:
 

Lightbringer

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
Feb 9, 2012
Messages
14,168
Reaction score
1,484
Human rights doesn't save criminals since they still get jail time, also, a criminal is just an agreed upon label put on people by people in power. I'd be a criminal in the eyes of ISIS for not being a devoted Muslim. In the United States, our prisons are overcrowded, and it's over victimless "crimes" like smoking weed, underage drinking, and so forth. Human rights deals with not getting in the way of people making personal decisions.

Underage dinking and Smoking weed gets you fined. If you are growing weed or selling alcohol to minors, then that's a different story.

I don't know where this "label" bs comes from. ISIS is an organization, not a country or state. It does not give people a choice but forces them into submission. A state or country's laws are created for the benefit or its citizens. If the laws are deemed unjustifiable, then change will occur eventually as it has already.

Laws will always be abused and bent, but criminals are not just "labels" put on by people in power. That makes no sense.
 

slayerdanger

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Veteran
Joined
Apr 18, 2014
Messages
2,137
Reaction score
194
It's f**kin' Ninja world...

Exactly, ninjas were poor badasses that stuck up to the rich people in power. Lots of people in Naruto seem to accept it's laws instead of go against them like a real life ninja would.
 

Zlatán

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Apr 20, 2014
Messages
3,633
Reaction score
237
Is there one in the real world? I'm being forced to go collage against my own will :|
 

Wolfus

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Mar 29, 2013
Messages
4,855
Reaction score
569
I edited my first reply to you, I'm not for protecting corrupt law breakers. But, it doesn't change that criminal is a label, it varies between jurisdictions. For example, I don't consider a pot smoker or an underage drinker a criminal when I see them since that's unnecessary.

I also edited my second post. You need to understand why such things are considered a crime. Teenagers usually are more irresponsable and can't handle drinking very well. In the process, they might end up hurting themselves and other people. But I don't really think it would be like a criiiiime, more like the parents should just pay something.

But of course, there are things that aren't debatable: robbery, murder, etc...
 
Top