So apparently now Madara > Hagoromo

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Until Madara can create the moon and use creation of all things then I think we know SO6P is the winner. SO6P even knew how to preserve himself indefinitely. I mean, c'mon Madara was never able to do that.

Nope. Hagfish couldn't even stop 2 kids from fighting, how pathetic.

Yes, because murdering one of your children is the answer.
 
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Naruto with half of hagoromo's power wrecked madara with a lava rasengan. Even Shinju madara ran after getting wrecked by sasuke. The only thing madara had was limbo clones to keep them at bay. Hagoromo stomps

If PIS/CIS didn't come into play, Madara would have wrecked Sasuke and Naruto through usage of his own PS that would be amped up by Rikudo's chakra and usage of the full power of the Double Rinnegan.
 

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If PIS/CIS didn't come into play, Madara would have wrecked Sasuke and Naruto through usage of his own PS that would be amped up by Rikudo's chakra and usage of the full power of the Double Rinnegan.

Double rinnegan madara is nothing, all he got was more limbo clones, which naruto wrecked. And did a CT which naruto wrecked
 

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Nope. Hagfish couldn't even stop 2 kids from fighting, how pathetic.
Ok. So youre just a troll I see.
If PIS/CIS didn't come into play, Madara would have wrecked Sasuke and Naruto through usage of his own PS that would be amped up by Rikudo's chakra and usage of the full power of the Double Rinnegan.

Sasukes also would have been amplified by rikudo chakra whats your point. Not to mention Naruto could freaking fly with his and had the chakra of every tailed beast. They own Madara. But only together. One on one Madara wins. But thats not the point of this thread.

How many times has Susano'o been owned in the series. Can it really be called a good justu when its been owned so many times?
 

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Double rinnegan madara is nothing, all he got was more limbo clones, which naruto wrecked. And did a CT which naruto wrecked
Not really, Madara never utilized his Paths, the mere fact that he was capable of forming 10-15 island sized CT effortlessly (Which is Deva Paths greatest technique) but also used Tengai Shinsei which is the highest form of Bansho Ten'nin as an Edo Tensei. This indicates he has great control over Deva Path.

He also never utilized Preta when he was Jinchuriki nor has he ever chose to utilize Asura Path, which would undoubtedly be far more destructive than Nagato's. He would use ST and all his Paths powers respectively when needed


If Madara whipped out his PS, it would have been over for Sasuke and Naruto. The reason his Susano'o would be superior is for the same reason BM is inferior to BSM, except in Madara and Sasuke's case, it's about who has more of Rikudo's chakra and Madara undoubtedly has more, as well as Senjutsu of The Six Paths, which Sasuke may or may not have.
 
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Yes, because murdering one of your children is the answer.

Couldn't put one brat in a time out could he? Nope just sit back and watch the world he helped create get wrecked and allow said kids to run rampant throughout history. How pathetic.
 

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Hagoromo is the second strongest individual in history behind kaguya. Madara has the third position sealed point blank period. That can't be argued.
 

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Hagoromo is the second strongest individual in history behind kaguya. Madara has the third position sealed point blank period. That can't be argued.

At the moment it cant be argued. But you can also say Hamura is either equal or more powerful than Madara. Might be weaker
 

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Let me just put this here
Hagoromo without the juubi created the moon
 

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... No
Think of this

Creation of all things

Got it?

Now

Deletion of all things

Good bye madara

But fr, hago can make up Justus on the spot

If you say he can't... Why not
 

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At the moment it cant be argued. But you can also say Hamura is either equal or more powerful than Madara. Might be weaker

No that can't be said because madara has 2 rinnegan a sharinnegan and hagoromos sage power. Not to mention he absorbed the shinju. That adds too it.

Hamura didn't even have the rinnegan he had the byakugan. That alone puts him below madara who achieved the same power as hagoromo, which was stated by hagoromo himself.

Besides hamura has no feats. I don't really know what to think of him.
 

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... No
Think of this

Creation of all things

Got it?

Now

Deletion of all things

Good bye madara

But fr, hago can make up Justus on the spot


If you say he can't... Why not
Bold..

Madara has Yin-Yang release as well as the Rinnegan, he can pretty much use all elements/jutsu as well as KKG due to the fact that Goudama are consistent of all nature types and was somewhat alike Jinton.

I'll check back the thread sometime later.
 
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Madara is fodder compared to Hagoromo

Bro I think he was agreeing

BTW tbh.

Pretty sure hago would show the true definition of "solo glare"
 

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No that can't be said because madara has 2 rinnegan a sharinnegan and hagoromos sage power. Not to mention he absorbed the shinju. That adds too it.

Hamura didn't even have the rinnegan he had the byakugan. That alone puts him below madara who achieved the same power as hagoromo, which was stated by hagoromo himself.

Besides hamura has no feats. I don't really know what to think of him.

Hamura fought and sealed the juubi/Kaguya with Hagoromo. That is an impressive feat.
 

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Madara is fodder compared to Hagoromo

Hagfish couldn't even stop his 2 kids. Meanwhile Madara fodderized both the sage's sons' descendants without breaking a sweat. It's obvious who the stronger man is.
 

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Bro I think he was agreeing

BTW tbh.

Pretty sure hago would show the true definition of "solo glare"

Lol that is true. He'd solo glance the hell out of those guys
 

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Hagfish couldn't even stop his 2 kids. Meanwhile Madara fodderized both the sage's sons' descendants without breaking a sweat. It's obvious who the stronger man is.

Descendents. Not his sons. His sons were much stronger. Dont compare Naruto and Sasuke to Ashura and Indra. And he didnt fodderize them. He got owned by them and hell he even got owned by Black Zetsu
 
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