So do people honestly still think Sasuke isn't evil?

[Denzel Washington]

As i said he wants to kill the leaders to the messed up Shinobi World/System that deosn't equate to him wanting to rule the world,thats an assumption.It just shows he is displeased with the Current leaders.

He said he wants to be the Hokage.The Hokage deosn't rule over the whole world.We don't now what he exactly means by Hokage so you can't say for sure he wants to rule over everyone through fear or something.

He never even noticed that and insteads assumes what Sasuke wants to do to pass off him being "evil".

Do you know what a revolution is? Are you like, 12 years old? Are you autistic?

Nobody wants him as any leader, period! If he kills the 5 Kages, do you think everyone is just going to be fine with that? All the other villages will just say, "Alright, thanks Sasuke!"????

Use your brain. If Sasuke does this, it means war on a nationwide scale.

 

[spade3dg]

Sakura is the Sasukebase
It makes perfect sense. No matter how evil/selfish sasuke acts,
The sasukebase/sakura will continue to flock to him like nothing happened.

Make up excuses for him and praise him like nothing happened. They try to play it off as just wanting sasuke to do good(sakuras love) but they know he will never care for them. (Ha ha)


When he said "youre such an annoyance" its basically Kishimotos' way of telling the sasukebase to hop off. Stop being fangirls and get a life.

Bruh did you just quote my whole thread on someone elses.

I feel insulted/honored

 

[Frikid]

I would like to see what sasuke has to say when he talks about his version of hokage before jumping to conclusions.

What he has done in the past does not really matter in the ninja world, Look at gaara, he killed much more people than sasuke and still could become kazekage.

Up until now, him wanting to kill bijjus,naruto (container of bijju chakra) and 5 kages does not really make him evil and I can understand why he wants that.

Why are the 5 kages considered the nice guys? What if they are not really nice, i mean the tsuchikage onoki used akatsuki and funded them to get the work done.
This stupid village system has to stop and it needs a change, i don't think killing kages is necessary for it but lets just wait and see what sasuke is thinking.

Right now, I wont blame anyone for thinking he is a villain or vice-versa because imo it can go either way , we really don't know what sasuke have in mind.

 

[Denzel Washington]

I would like to see what sasuke has to say when he talks about his version of hokage before jumping to conclusions.

What he has done in the past does not really matter in the ninja world, Look at gaara, he killed much more people than sasuke and still could become kazekage.

Up until now, him wanting to kill bijjus,naruto (container of bijju chakra) and 5 kages does not really make him evil and I can understand why he wants that.

Why are the 5 kages considered the nice guys? What if they are not really nice, i mean the tsuchikage onoki used akatsuki and funded them to get the work done.
This stupid village system has to stop and it needs a change, i don't think killing kages is necessary for it but lets just wait and see what sasuke is thinking.

Right now, I wont blame anyone for thinking he is a villain or vice-versa because imo it can go either way , we really don't know what sasuke have in mind.

I don't see how else he could accomplish what he wants.

Nobody wants him as a leader, and yet he's forcing himself into the position. Rebellions will form. Sasuke will have to kill more people.

It just doesn't work out in any nice way.

 

[Frikid]

I don't see how else he could accomplish what he wants.

Nobody wants him as a leader, and yet he's forcing himself into the position. Rebellions will form. Sasuke will have to kill more people.

It just doesn't work out in any nice way.

yeah what you suggest might be a possibility.
But i think there is more to it.

Remember, after sasuke was stabbed by madara, his last words were " i can't die here... until i show the people what a true kage is?!? " .

This suggests, he is up to something other than "follow me or die" approach.

If what you suggest turns out to be true, he would be seen as a villain by many and nobody would want him to succeed.

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

Do you know what a revolution is? Are you like, 12 years old? Are you autistic?

Nobody wants him as any leader, period! If he kills the 5 Kages, do you think everyone is just going to be fine with that? All the other villages will just say, "Alright, thanks Sasuke!"????

Use your brain. If Sasuke does this, it means war on a nationwide scale.

Lol here's something you never thought of.Are all the Non-Shinobi going to be happy with not only the Shinobi getting into another World War after years of constantly fighting but this time they were forced into it (Infinite Tsukuyomi).They are not going to be happy with the Shinobi world/System either.If the person who fought against the people who out them in the IT,and (maybe) saved them from the IT wants to change the Shinobi world and System so stuff like this deosnt happen then theres a good chance people will be on Sasukes side.

You act like everyone will be against Sasuke.Deos the Shinobi Nations teaming up for a couple days after years of fighting and multiple world wars prove that they will cooperate? Then teaming up only because they were faced with people who were a threat to them all?

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Bruh did you just quote my whole thread on someone elses.

I feel insulted/honored

It happens. You've shown me the light, therfore I'll spread the word.

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

Sakura is the Sasukebase
It makes perfect sense. No matter how evil/selfish sasuke acts,
The sasukebase/sakura will continue to flock to him like nothing happened.

Make up excuses for him and praise him like nothing happened. They try to play it off as just wanting sasuke to do good(sakuras love) but they know he will never care for them. (Ha ha)


When he said "youre such an annoyance" its basically Kishimotos' way of telling the sasukebase to hop off. Stop being fangirls and get a life.

Okay so having your whole family massacred isn't a good reason to want revenge? Or wanting to changed the messed up Shinobi world/System that is constantly fighting and has gotten into 4 World Wars?

 

[Denzel Washington]

Lol here's something you never thought of.Are all the Non-Shinobi going to be happy with not only the Shinobi getting into another World War after years of constantly fighting but this time they were forced into it (Infinite Tsukuyomi).They are not going to be happy with the Shinobi world/System either.If the person who fought against the people who out them in the IT,and (maybe) saved them from the IT wants to change the Shinobi world and System so stuff like this deosnt happen then theres a good chance people will be on Sasukes side.

You act like everyone will be against Sasuke.Deos the Shinobi Nations teaming up for a couple days after years of fighting and multiple world wars prove that they will cooperate? Then teaming up only because they were faced with people who were a threat to them all?

You're just spewing nonsense.

If Sasuke kills the 5 Kages, nobody is going to like that, and rebellions will form against him. That means Sasuke is going to have to kill a lot of people.

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

You're just spewing nonsense.

If Sasuke kills the 5 Kages, nobody is going to like that, and rebellions will form against him. That means Sasuke is going to have to kill a lot of people.

How is that nonsense? People will jump up to defend the Shinobi world/system which has gotten into Four World wars amd is constantly fighting each other? Hence Konoha invasion in part one -the Sand and Sound teamed up to invade and destory Konoha.People will be happy with the current leaders after getting caught in the IT and almost turning into Zetsus?

No one will agree with Sasuke and think there needs to be change? Im not saying killing the Kages is the right thing to do,but wanting to kick them off of their position as "leaders" is understandable.

 

[Remedy]

I agree with you OP, but in Sasuke's defense, at his core, he was once a good person that cared deeply about his friends and had strong good morals. It's just that he submitted to the cruelty of the World and let it morph the person he has become. Deep at his core, he doesn't want to kill Naruto I believe, there is a glimmer of care he tries to bury deep. But like any drug addict or alcoholic, or anybody drunk in any emotion or Worldy things, you try to stay away from anybody that morally convicts you. That's why drug addicts don't go around family, or their kids, they don't want to feel or told what they're doing is wrong nor being stopped, and Naruto has that same impression on Sasuke.

 

[Denzel Washington]

How is that nonsense? People will jump up to defend the Shinobi world/system which has gotten into Four World wars amd is constantly fighting each other? Hence Konoha invasion in part one -the Sand and Sound teamed up to invade and destory Konoha.People will be happy with the current leaders after getting caught in the IT and almost turning into Zetsus?

No one will agree with Sasuke and think there needs to be change? Im not saying killing the Kages is the right thing to do,but wanting to kick them off of their position as "leaders" is understandable.

But that's my point.

He doesn't NEED to kill the 5 Kages. He WANTS to. That's evil, if anybody did that in real life they'd be labeled as evil.

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

But that's my point.

He doesn't NEED to kill the 5 Kages. He WANTS to. That's evil, if anybody did that in real life they'd be labeled as evil.

Killing isn't neccesarily evil.Itachi killing the Uchiha wasn't evil.He wanted to stop them from potentially causing major trouble,and Sasuke wants to stop the Kages from causing more trouble - the same as if Naruto killed Sasuke thay wouldn't be evil,but doing it for the greater good.

I agree with you OP, but in Sasuke's defense, at his core, he was once a good person that cared deeply about his friends and had strong good morals. It's just that he submitted to the cruelty of the World and let it morph the person he has become. Deep at his core, he doesn't want to kill Naruto I believe, there is a glimmer of care he tries to bury deep. But like any drug addict or alcoholic, or anybody drunk in any emotion or Worldy things, you try to stay away from anybody that morally convicts you. That's why drug addicts don't go around family, or their kids, they don't want to feel or told what they're doing is wrong nor being stopped, and Naruto has that same impression on Sasuke.

Nicely said.

 

[spade3dg]

It happens. You've shown me the light, therfore I'll spread the word.

Lol I would rep you but I need to spread more of it

 

[spade3dg]

Killing isn't neccesarily evil.Itachi killing the Uchiha wasn't evil.He wanted to stop them from potentially causing major trouble,and Sasuke wants to stop the Kages from causing more trouble - the same as if Naruto killed Sasuke thay wouldn't be evil,but doing it for the greater good.

None of the current kages caused trouble thougj

 

[so12p]

Of course he is evil. And there will be no surprise - his "view of hokage" will be dictatorship.

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

Lol I would rep you but I need to spread more of it

Just wondering.Do you say the same about Obito,and Madara fans? Or prettu much fans of any member of the Akatsuki or any member individually or do you just biasly target Sasuke even though they've done far worse?

None of the current kages caused trouble thougj

Oh really - Oonoki who was Kage for decades didn't cause any trouble? Or how about the Raikage who had a grown man try to kidnap alittle girl(Hinata) on the day the peace treaty was celebrated then when he failed and his guy was killed he ordered that Hiashi (Hinatas dad) be killed for killing the man who snook into his house in the middle of the night amd tried kidnapping his 3 year old daughter.He threatened war if that didn't happen.

And before you say,"He wasn't Raikage then" - page 12,chapter 457.and also see chapter 458 page 5-8.the Raikage himself said some of the Kages HIRED Akatsuki for WAR.

 

[Demonic.]

Sakura is the Sasukebase
It makes perfect sense. No matter how evil/selfish sasuke acts,
The sasukebase/sakura will continue to flock to him like nothing happened.

Make up excuses for him and praise him like nothing happened. They try to play it off as just wanting sasuke to do good(sakuras love) but they know he will never care for them. (Ha ha)


When he said "youre such an annoyance" its basically Kishimotos' way of telling the sasukebase to hop off. Stop being fangirls and get a life.

Oh shit. You have a point. But you will get flamed XD

 

[spade3dg]

Oh shit. You have a point. But you will get flamed XD

But that was my thread.....

 

[spade3dg]

Just wondering.Do you say the same about Obito,and Madara fans? Or prettu much fans of any member of the Akatsuki or any member individually or do you just biasly target Sasuke even though they've done far worse?

I have arguments against everybodys fave character. I like to play devils advocate. I actually like every character in the series but I have a certain fondness for Tobirama.

The akatsuki had certain reasons and motives. None of them joined the akatsuki willing. All were threatened or beaten.