[Predictions] Naruto Manga 478 Discussion and 479 Predictions

[Michael92]

But if all this happend, that Danzo, Madara, Zetsu and the evil part of root, takes over the village. And Naruto, Sasuke, Kakashi, Tenzo, Killerbee and the other part of Konoha and the Kages and their villages` Jounins fights back.

Then I really think that Akatsuki will have to get at least 5 new members whice are at least twice as strong as the previous ones after Konoha have been won back.
Why? Well all the rest got too quickly killed ofxd

Because the bad guys would have almost nothing to stand up with against all the good guys.

I mean. Both Naruto, Sasuke, Gaara, Killerbee, and probobly some other of the good guys could have wipped any of the former member`s ass except for Pain/Pein and Itachi(not counting Konan).

No offence to the Sasori, Deidara, Hidan, Kakuzu, Orochimaru, and probobly Kisame fans

They were all strong, but not strong enough. Only Deidara lasted more than one battle(not counting the 30% chacra Kisame), and in my point of view, thats far from good enought if they were as strong as peoples and the Manga believes/says

 

[Foetoid]

Instead of replying i thought i would share my own thoughts on all this. It seems as though now that Danzo is effectively a Uchiha/Senju hybrid, there is every chance that it was him who initiated the attack on the village. He probably knew that a Jinchuuriki for Konoha would be a great asset, and he probably also predicted the 4th would sacrifice himself to seal the Kyuubi.

I think the direction Danzo is heading is fantastic, i would never ever had guessed anything like this at all and now i'm starting to wonder what else he has going on. I could really see him removing the rest of the bandages and finding another eye in the middle of his forehead, perhaps even an EMS eye or something. Nothing is off limits at this point and i honestly don't think sasuke has what it takes to finish him.

Now totally off topic here i'd like to share another theory i read ages ago but i have refined regarding the sharingan. Kakashi said in the Chuunin Exams that the Sharingan was derived from the Byakugan long ago, and this theory holds true in so many different ways. I believe the first person ever born with the sharingan, long long ago, had his mother or father as a kyuubi jinchuuriki and the other parent weilding the byakugan. Several facts support this:

Naruto was never said to be the only Kyuubi Jinchuuriki

The sharingan is red in colour, as is the fox. The fox is a sinister creature, and the sharingan techniques are also sinister in nature. Its very possible the chakra of the kyuubi mixed with the byakugan of the other parent, creating this new dojutsu.

The sharingan can control the fox, but no other tailed beast. (Big Fact)

It would make for an interesting scenario if Hinata and Naruto ever got together, with potentially the elders of the village trying to stop them being together. Kishi could have been preparing that ever since day 1.

The Ten-Tailed Jubi has what looks like something similar to the sharingan. That could have very well been passed down from the kyuubi through a jinchuuriki into a baby that should have been born with the byakugan.

I would think that Kakashi, as smart as he is, would know quite a lot about the sharingan he weilds and wouldn't be dribbling crap when he said the sharingan was derived from the Byakugan.

I feel like i am missing something, another important fact i thought of ages ago, but i forget it now. If there are any holes in my theory, let me know

 

[Foetoid]

Wow, this site posted my comment twice, hence the editing now lmao!

 

[heart2kill]

We waited 3 weeks to watch sasuke fail at tsukyomi (and danzo admitted that Itachis tsukyomi was on an entire different level, yet orochimaru and tobi say sasukes eyes have surpassed Itachis, does Kishi realise he's contradicting himself?)

Then Kishi played with Itachi fans, giving us a cliffhanger, to have him be used in a lame tech that didnt have any actual point.

Then somehow sasuke being full of hatred got rid of a seal ????? Yeah that makes sense (wtf?!)

Then danzo becomes even more powerful by somehow using a brand new forbbiden sharingan tech, which we've never heard of before, and as someone else stated, surely if its forbbiden then it should be taught as forbbiden, or some kind of information pertaining to it must exist as danzo knows how to use it...

Also as someone else mentioned, Karin keeps banging on about sasukes chakra getting darker, Kishi is for some ****ed up reason writing like those damn filler idiots "a place to call home" bullshit, by having karin repeat the same shit each chapter.

Kishi, we don't suffer from amnesia, we get it, sasuke is pissed, get the **** on with the story, and while you are stop making us wait 3 weeks for an epic cliffhanger to become an anticlimatical fail.

I won't be reading the manga no more because it has become seriously lame.

I don't mind Itachi being dead, but to make Itachi fans wait 3 weeks on tenterhooks to have it be some little shitty whim of a tsukyomi by gayboy is just ****ing obscene.

Pissed me off, its ruining the memory of an awesome character.

man u r a hater for real... i recommend u stop reading naruto manga for a while

 

[Foetoid]

Its not that I mind Kisame dying, but he had 2 chapters of coverage to then have not even 1 panel of his corpse, whereas suckers like deidara and Hidan (the weakest of the akatsuki) get loads of screen time and speeches before death, Kisame rolls out quite frankly the strongest offense we have ever seen, and not even a goodbye or anything, instead he'd rather write about some emo gayboy and his wannabe girlfriend repeat how his chakra is dark (racist bitch)

I don't think it's been confirmed he's actually dead. He had his head chopped off yes, but Suigetsu wouldn't be affected by that. Kisame could have something similar. I kinda hope Kisame isn't dead.

 

[Foetoid]

You`re probobly right.

And if thats the case, why can`t Naruto learn all 5? or 6/7 elements, if we count Dark and light manipulation or whatever

I kinda hope he doesnt. See how Sasuke can use Lightning and Fire elements to a far better extent than Kakashi? Its because he only has 2 elements, thats it, and therefore can use them individually better than someone who can use 4 elements. Naruto is so good with Wind nature cause it's probably he only element, meaning the techniques he creates with them are going to be rediculously good.

 

[Michael92]

Instead of replying i thought i would share my own thoughts on all this. It seems as though now that Danzo is effectively a Uchiha/Senju hybrid, there is every chance that it was him who initiated the attack on the village. He probably knew that a Jinchuuriki for Konoha would be a great asset, and he probably also predicted the 4th would sacrifice himself to seal the Kyuubi.

I think the direction Danzo is heading is fantastic, i would never ever had guessed anything like this at all and now i'm starting to wonder what else he has going on. I could really see him removing the rest of the bandages and finding another eye in the middle of his forehead, perhaps even an EMS eye or something. Nothing is off limits at this point and i honestly don't think sasuke has what it takes to finish him.

Now totally off topic here i'd like to share another theory i read ages ago but i have refined regarding the sharingan. Kakashi said in the Chuunin Exams that the Sharingan was derived from the Byakugan long ago, and this theory holds true in so many different ways. I believe the first person ever born with the sharingan, long long ago, had his mother or father as a kyuubi jinchuuriki and the other parent weilding the byakugan. Several facts support this:

Naruto was never said to be the only Kyuubi Jinchuuriki

The sharingan is red in colour, as is the fox. The fox is a sinister creature, and the sharingan techniques are also sinister in nature. Its very possible the chakra of the kyuubi mixed with the byakugan of the other parent, creating this new dojutsu.

The sharingan can control the fox, but no other tailed beast. (Big Fact)

It would make for an interesting scenario if Hinata and Naruto ever got together, with potentially the elders of the village trying to stop them being together. Kishi could have been preparing that ever since day 1.

The Ten-Tailed Jubi has what looks like something similar to the sharingan. That could have very well been passed down from the kyuubi through a jinchuuriki into a baby that should have been born with the byakugan.

I would think that Kakashi, as smart as he is, would know quite a lot about the sharingan he weilds and wouldn't be dribbling crap when he said the sharingan was derived from the Byakugan.

I feel like i am missing something, another important fact i thought of ages ago, but i forget it now. If there are any holes in my theory, let me know

Someone else who goes In to the future/goes back in time

A really deep theory, and i wouldn`t be surprised if some of it turned out to be real.

But one thing scratches my mind

If you have taken a look at the last prediction thread, me and some other discussed the chance for Naruto getting the Rinegaan. And if i`m not quite misstaken, the person who brought up the chapter about the 2 sons of the sage of the six paths, we could see that Madara said that one of the sons got the Rinnegan/Sharingaan(not sure) and that Byakugaan is an evolved/mutated form of those eye tech. But as i said, i might be misstaken

 

[Degrees]

I knew Itachi would not come back, but Kishi has screwed up this manga so bad, I would not be surprised if Itachi fans stop reading completely Kishi playing with those poor fanboys & girls hearts.
I'm pissed off because meanwhile Sasuke getting all these new techniques my favourite character is crying on the floor like some stupid bitch.

 

[Foetoid]

But if all this happend, that Danzo, Madara, Zetsu and the evil part of root, takes over the village. And Naruto, Sasuke, Kakashi, Tenzo, Killerbee and the other part of Konoha and the Kages and their villages` Jounins fights back.

Then I really think that Akatsuki will have to get at least 5 new members whice are at least twice as strong as the previous ones after Konoha have been won back.
Why? Well all the rest got too quickly killed ofxd

Because the bad guys would have almost nothing to stand up with against all the good guys.

I mean. Both Naruto, Sasuke, Gaara, Killerbee, and probobly some other of the good guys could have wipped any of the former member`s ass except for Pain/Pein and Itachi(not counting Konan).

No offence to the Sasori, Deidara, Hidan, Kakuzu, Orochimaru, and probobly Kisame fans

They were all strong, but not strong enough. Only Deidara lasted more than one battle(not counting the 30% chacra Kisame), and in my point of view, thats far from good enought if they were as strong as peoples and the Manga believes/says

Kakuzu was good enough, that guy was taking on Kakashi and everyone else at once without trying. He was just unlucky enough to be hit with the most powerful attack in all of the history of Naruto. And that attack just happened to annihilate his chakra network. Without that attack, naruto would have lost that battle i believe.

 

[Foetoid]

I knew Itachi would not come back, but Kishi has screwed up this manga so bad, I would not be surprised if Itachi fans stop reading completely Kishi playing with those poor fanboys & girls hearts.
I'm pissed off because meanwhile Sasuke getting all these new techniques my favourite character is crying on the floor like some stupid bitch.

He's hyperventilating and passed out, not crying like a bitch. Sasuke isn't getting new techniques, he's has sasanoo for ages, we've just now seen his own version in it's full form. All he got was the Hawk summoning. Yay? I'm willing to bet they will touch on Naruto next chapter so we can find out whats wrong and see if the powers Itachi gave him have woken up.

 

[Foetoid]

But one thing scratches my mind

If you have taken a look at the last prediction thread, me and some other discussed the chance for Naruto getting the Rinegaan. And if i`m not quite misstaken, the person who brought up the chapter about the 2 sons of the sage of the six paths, we could see that Madara said that one of the sons got the Rinnegan/Sharingaan(not sure) and that Byakugaan is an evolved/mutated form of those eye tech. But as i said, i might be misstaken

Yeah i think thats the only hole in my theory. The picture of those 2 sons seemed to show one had the Sharingan. All Madara said tho was that one was blessed with the powerful eyes and chakras, while the other was blessed with the body and spirit. We'll have to see where that one goes.

 

[Michael92]

A little correction:

One(the elder brother) was born with the eyes of the sage as said, and the sage had the Rinegaan. And the Sharingaan and the Byakugaan became Evolved/mutated form of it later on, meaning that the son with the eyes had Rinegaan? It doesn`t say that he got the Rinegaan, but it says that he got the eyes of the sage, and since the sage got Rinegaan it would be realistic to say that the son got that too.
If the elder brother got the eyes, chacra and the mind of the sage, while the younger brother got the body, and will or something. Shouldn`t it be obvious whice one who won the battle?xd

So whice form was discovered first?
The Byakugaan or the Sharingaan?

That`s the fact your theory depends on. Whice form who came first

And the most important fact of all:

If the one with the eyes had the most chacra, and Naruto is a part of the other bloodline. How can it be that he has as much chacra then?

If he can get that ability whice is supposed to be in the bloodline of the other brother, why can`t he get the Rinegaan too. And if this happend. Then he would almost start the whole concept all over again, by being almost completely like the sage of the six paths.

The reasons:

1: He would then have the first and the pressumed best form of the eye tech.
2: He would be a host of a tailed beast like Rikudo Sage was(only that he was host of the real tail beast, the Jubii)
3: He would have the chacra supply.
4: He would have the body
5: He would have the will.
6: And he would be a good guy, like Rikudo Sage was

The only thing he doesn`t have then, is the mind.
If he doesn`t become "Shikamaru smart" later in the show then

If he had that too, then he wouldn`t only have all of the ability both of the brothers had. But he would also be completely like The Sage Of The Six Paths

And since he`s "The One"(Like Neo in Matrix) according to the frog policy, he will definitely become The new Sage Of The Six Paths (2)!

 

[7thElement]

Wow what a chapter. My hopes of Itachi still being alive has been officially crushed. Oh well. Danzou is such a freak.

 

[CRK2191]

So because you assumed Itachi would come back, you're not going to read anymore? Well done.

Kishi isn't contradicting himself. How is Itachi being better at tsukyomi contradict Sasukes eyes being better? Im sure sasuke can use his eyes better than itachi while itachi can be better at a single technique.

It's not a 'brand new secret sharingan tech', its been hinted at and mentioned a few times that there is a 4th Mangekyou Sharingan technique. Madara hasn't lived like 150 years on a fluke. Use your head.

I wouldn't think that sasukes hatred forced back that paralysis seal. That honor goes to Sasanoo.

This is my first time posting here although i frequent the site a lot. Is this the norm for people posting here? Am i going to have to shut them down every time *sigh*

I think you misunderstood twistedlink. If you read the top of page 3, he says he doesn't care if Itachi was alive or dead, just that he wasn't a genjutsu from Sasuke.

 

[Michael92]

Wow what a chapter. My hopes of Itachi still being alive has been officially crushed. Oh well. Danzou is such a freak.

Welcome to the Narutobase Forum man

Don`t give up just yet, its just to early for him to return. The same goes for Kisame

 

[JSO]

Everyone who's so disappointed keeps complaining that Kishi had you waiting for 3 weeks for a damn genjutsu. But guess what, you were only supposed to wait an extra week compared to normal. The wait only seems so long cos of the early leak of the last issue. You're retarded for thinking it was anything other than a genjutsu anyway. The crows, Sasuke's smug stare.

I will admit though, the new developments have taken me by surprise. The first's DNA part seemed over-the-top. Made me feel like 'is nothing sacred?' lol, but I suppose that's how you're supposed to feel regarding Danzo at this point. By the end of the issue I felt like Danzo was reaching the end of this fight, what with Karin figuring out his secret, Danzo running out of chakra and Madara realising the technique's origin. But I also feel like too many recent developments regarding Danzo make him safe for now. There's much to uncover yet. Guessing he'll might escape now and come back with Kabuto in tow.

 

[Michael92]

Lets just hope it would take awhile before we have to wait for a new chapter as long as we have waited now

Peach Out!

 

[teetooktier]

Man, Sasuke and Kishi are getting a beating. To all those people bashing Sasuke; I don't get it. I mean, Kishi took a genius, and instead of making him a weak, frightened bookworm character as typical, he gave Sasuke an edge and made him a dangerous, focused weapon. And nobody else respects that? I was always glad that Kishi took an axe to the traditional genius archetype and decided to show everyone what these people are capable of once their handicaps are removed. THIS is what happens; A teenager who can take on the greatest powers and minds in the ninja world. Don't be surprised. And come on, even if he doesn't have a physical flaw, you can't deny that he's full of metaphorical disease. It's not that bad a chapter, people were wrong, I was wrong, but we'll get over it.

O btw just wanna add that I'm not a Sasuke fanboy...guess it must sound like I am tho, lol.

 

[Fyx]

lol nah nah, was just saying how for 3 weeks i was hoping Kishi didnt make it some lame genjutsu...and he did, and that i agree with you that its a massive dissapointment.

I really am trying to be as fair as possible here, but kishi blatantly does not know how to properly entertain fans.

You do not make a cliffhanger, to leave fans waiting for 3 weeks to make some wanky response like this chapter.

It's not that I wanted Itachi alive, I would have been happy with ANY story plot other than genjutsu, because quite frankly, putting Itachi into a genjutsu has NO POINT WHATSOEVER, other than to make Itachi fans excited to then piss them off after 3 weeks of horrid waiting.


Most people agreed that it would be awesome to have Itachi do SOMETHING, even if he wasnt alive-id have been happy with a simple MESSAGE or something, he can remain dead for sure, anything BUT genjutsu.

But no, the writer decided to make it some lame ass genjutsu...the series is going downhill.

Ever since pains invasion its just been blerrrrggghhhh

Reading for readings sakes? y'know?

Kisame was a good perk up, until he died in an epic fail rushed way.

Its not that I mind Kisame dying, but he had 2 chapters of coverage to then have not even 1 panel of his corpse, whereas suckers like deidara and Hidan (the weakest of the akatsuki) get loads of screen time and speeches before death, Kisame rolls out quite frankly the strongest offense we have ever seen, and not even a goodbye or anything, instead he'd rather write about some emo gayboy and his wannabe girlfriend repeat how his chakra is dark (racist bitch)

i dont understand why u and everyone are talking about the genjutsu i mean it makes sense using itachi since that would make danzo vulnerable.anyway u guys have been 3 weeks waiting for manga a so what?does that mean kishi is going to make things different just because uve been waiting?i seriously dont understand your points

about the chapter i think it was very interesting to see that danzo probably will do something to the kyubi , and maybe in a near future we see his fight with naruto

 

[Foetoid]

A little correction:

One(the elder brother) was born with the eyes of the sage as said, and the sage had the Rinegaan. And the Sharingaan and the Byakugaan became Evolved/mutated form of it later on, meaning that the son with the eyes had Rinegaan? It doesn`t say that he got the Rinegaan, but it says that he got the eyes of the sage, and since the sage got Rinegaan it would be realistic to say that the son got that too.
If the elder brother got the eyes, chacra and the mind of the sage, while the younger brother got the body, and will or something. Shouldn`t it be obvious whice one who won the battle?xd

So whice form was discovered first?
The Byakugaan or the Sharingaan?

That`s the fact your theory depends on. Whice form who came first

And the most important fact of all:

If the one with the eyes had the most chacra, and Naruto is a part of the other bloodline. How can it be that he has as much chacra then?

I just hope Kakashi knew what he was on about, the Byakugan came first, and my Sharingan theory is kinda correct.

As for your bit in bold, thats easy to explain. See Madara mentioned the guy with the eyes had the "powerful chakras" and Sasuke has always had powerful techniques. "Powerful Chakras" and "The Most Chakra" as you put it aren't the same thing. I would think something like the amount of chakra would be directly proportional to the fighters body and stamina, and it was the other son who got the body of the sage who went on to become the Senju.