[Theory] Sasuke's revolution is political

[Mr Hiru]

Socialism: The ability to redistribute power in a equitiative way (Hashirama's decision on sharing the Bijuu, so nations could have balance of power, increasing the possibility of a large-scale war to take place, but also decreasing the possibility of a war due the implied risks of battling against bijuus).

Capitalism: The ability to accumulate power depending on your own natural capabilities (Sasuke's decision on destroying the Bijuu, so nations can't take over others and thus reducing the scale of any possible war. This naturally implies to kill the current gokage).

Funnily, I'm feeling like Sasuke is libertarian.

Any thoughts?

 

[JCW]

I say dictator or totalitarianism but that works

 

[Mr Hiru]

I say dictator or totalitarianism but that works

I doubt it. Based on manga facts:

- Sasuke wants to destroy bijuu ("Let them burn")
- Sasuke wants to kill the gokage (Yes, from the recent chapter)
- Sasuke wants to become hokage (he said this some time ago)
- Sasuke didn't say he wanting to rule over the entire world

Natural deduction:

- Sasuke wants to redistribute power, not based on equity, but justice (each country has as much power as each can train, without any kind of limitation), without the need of balance (bijuu).

 

[Flaming Amaterasu]

One of the more logical threads here. I agree, Sasuke is not looking to control people, he is looking to destroy and rebuild a broken system. He is not incorrect when he says that the current kage ARE responsible for all of this, excluding Tsunade because she became kage after the thirds death, and was being very reasonable and patient with situations, but granted Sasuke doesn't know that because he was not in the village...

So realistically, people cannot blame Sasuke for his thinking of offing the kages, but I personally cannot agree with it because they all realized their mistakes by fighting Madara, and I don't believe Sasuke really wants to fight Naruto, he looked more sad then any other emotion displayed, so there's no rage, there's no conceitedness (he acknowledges naruto as his equal now, proven when he first arrived onto the battlefield), there's no twisted intent anymore, there's just CONTENT and sadness, as if he feels he is forced to at least try and KO Naruto to stop a fight and do what he believes is right.

So this will be quite interesting to see play out. Sorry for kinda changing the subject in my comment, but I figured I would lay out how what you said is a big part of the whole thing with Sasuke right now.

 

[Mr Hiru]

One of the more logical threads here. I agree, Sasuke is not looking to control people, he is looking to destroy and rebuild a broken system. He is not incorrect when he says that the current kage ARE responsible for all of this, excluding Tsunade because she became kage after the thirds death, and was being very reasonable and patient with situations, but granted Sasuke doesn't know that because he was not in the village...

So realistically, people cannot blame Sasuke for his thinking of offing the kages, but I personally cannot agree with it because they all realized their mistakes by fighting Madara, and I don't believe Sasuke really wants to fight Naruto, he looked more sad then any other emotion displayed, so there's no rage, there's no conceitedness (he acknowledges naruto as his equal now, proven when he first arrived onto the battlefield), there's no twisted intent anymore, there's just CONTENT and sadness, as if he feels he is forced to at least try and KO Naruto to stop a fight and do what he believes is right.

So this will be quite interesting to see play out. Sorry for kinda changing the subject in my comment, but I figured I would lay out how what you said is a big part of the whole thing with Sasuke right now.

Au contraire my friend, I believe we share the same thoughts regarding the intentions of the main antihero.

Thoughts his intentions may be pure, they are not exactly right. I'm guessing his current decision to kill the kages (more than sealing or killing the beasts) are related to the fact that there is a possibility for them not accepting a change of paradigm in the current shinobi system (currently being socialism, thanks to the balance of power in the great nations, which necessarily forces the little nations to be used as little war camps, which is what Sasuke wants to prevent to happen again).

Ergo, he wants to install capitalism as a way to prevent large-scale damage from decisions made by the respective leaders of each of the great nations (when holding too much power as the Bijuu), and instead of this he would prefer villages sharing power, allowing collaboration exists with adjacent smaller villages to and promote fair trade.

I don't know if people remembers, but the Sand village in part one was very interested in forming alliances with the sound village and thus doing a coup d'etat against Konoha under Orochimaru's hand, because of this very fact: The feudal leaders forced the sand village to limit the amount of active shinobi in the village. If the Sand could demonstrate their shinobi were better, then Konoha would lose the share of shinobi they could hold in activity. A consequence from this single fact is that the daimyou of the wind land oftenly cut budget from Sunagakure and thus, for the Sand Village to survive among the five great nations, they had to rely on fewer but stronger shinobi (henceforth, the need to create dangerous double-edged weapons as Gaara: The Ichibi Jinchuuriki). The result of such limitations were the wars between villages.

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[minamoto]

This thread doesn't make sense..

 

[Flakez]

This thread doesn't make sense..

Good thing the Tobidara threads make perfect sense.

 

[minamoto]

Good thing the Tobidara threads make perfect sense.

what would ur reaction be if tobidara gets revealed soon...answer me

 

[Honord Sage]

Sasuke doesn't think things politically,He be believes in power makes right regardless of future consequences.

 

[Flakez]

what would ur reaction be if tobidara gets revealed soon...answer me

I don't need to think about my reaction, since it will never happen.

 

[Mr Hiru]

Sasuke doesn't think things politically,He be believes in power makes right regardless of future consequences.

That's capitalism for you, my friend.

This thread doesn't make sense..

If you don't have any idea of politics, then it's just natural that you didn't catch my drift in this thread, Minamoto. I invite you to read about socialism, capitalism, libertarians and totalitarians.

When your thoughts are mature enough, you'll understand the political component of Narutoverse as it is (the main core of this thread).

 

[Byron123]

Lol I would never think that Sasuke would get into politics. Who knows, we might see him in the Parlament XD

 

[Mr Hiru]

Lol I would never think that Sasuke would get into politics. Who knows, we might see him in the Parlament XD

That's our world paradigm of politics, Narutoverse doesn't have anything like a parlament (at least until now).

But what is politics in Narutoverse? My proposal: Politics is the way of how power is distributed among the nations and how can it be developed or redistributed.

 

[minamoto]

I don't need to think about my reaction, since it will never happen.

more like you got no answer due to the possibility of tobidara's reveal coming true...I'LL MAKE TOBIDARA EMERGE...thats a promise i made

 

[GhostProject]

Honestly, I do not think it is in Sasuke's intentions to be totalitarian (possibly, but who knows), however, I think he would end up being a totalitarian leader regardless through his plan.

 

[minamoto]

That's capitalism for you, my friend.



If you don't have any idea of politics, then it's just natural that you didn't catch my drift in this thread, Minamoto. I invite you to read about socialism, capitalism, libertarians and totalitarians.

When your thoughts are mature enough, you'll understand the political component of Narutoverse as it is (the main core of this thread).

- .....true knowledge is faith....and my faith is Tobidara...

 

[Mr Hiru]

Honestly, I do not think it is in Sasuke's intentions to be totalitarian (possibly, but who knows), however, I think he would end up being a totalitarian leader regardless through his plan.

Agreed. I believe he is libertarian.

- .....true knowledge is faith....and my faith is Tobidara...

That phrase has a ring, it sounds poetic. The sad part is: faith is not based on reason, thus rendering it useless when bringing it into discussion threads. I'll give you one thing: you're persistent. But when speaking with me, that is simply not enough.

Almost forgot: this is my thread. Don't bring Tobidara here, if you please....

 

[King Nasus]

I doubt it. Based on manga facts:

- Sasuke wants to destroy bijuu ("Let them burn")
- Sasuke wants to kill the gokage (Yes, from the recent chapter)
- Sasuke wants to become hokage (he said this some time ago)
- Sasuke didn't say he wanting to rule over the entire world

Natural deduction:

- Sasuke wants to redistribute power, not based on equity, but justice (each country has as much power as each can train, without any kind of limitation), without the need of balance (bijuu).

Hey Dog,

Socialism ended when the one tails was captured.

Bye Dog Go Catch Good Boy

 

[Mr Hiru]

Hey Dog,

Socialism ended when the one tails was captured.

Bye Dog Go Catch Good Boy

Lol

Nasus, in fact, you're right. The moment where Deidara catched the Ichibi, the balance was lost. But it would be because Akatsuki wanted to collect the power of the world and use it economically, to have control over wars.

Akatsuki was a totalitarian organization.