[Question] Are all DF users weak to salt?

[ultraChalk]

Speed reading Thriller Bark for god knows why, and Brook explained that zombies are weak to salt.

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But as you can see, he's clearly speaking generally about all salt, and how is has the power of the sea. So does this mean that all DF users are weak to salt?

 

[Kαmi]

I want to say no because Luffy eats like a savage. Gotta be a high intake of salt there.

 

[ultraChalk]

I want to say no because Luffy eats like a savage. Gotta be a high intake of salt there.

I believe Oda established that they're only effected by the weaknesses when they touch the outside of their skin.

Water Luffy could still function just fine, so consuming salt in their stomach wouldn't have an effect.

 

[bsims08]

No they are weak to sea stone. There is a difference in zombies and df users

 

[ultraChalk]

No they are weak to sea stone. There is a difference in zombies and df users

But he clearly says salt has the power of the sea. Sea energy all together is the weakness of DF users, which includes sea stone.

And he was just saying how that would effect the Kage Kage no Mi functions, and how it would loosen the bind.

 

[Kαmi]

I believe Oda established that they're only effected by the weaknesses when they touch the outside of their skin.

Water Luffy could still function just fine, so consuming salt in their stomach wouldn't have an effect.

Fair enough.

No because the people affected by Gecko were affected by his fruit's power and not having his fruit themselves, so the salt works on lower forms of stems from a DF power? Does that makes sense to you? It's like how sea water and seastones affect DF users. Well actual salt works as a purifying effect of what a DF power did to someone else.

Not saying that's what happened or it's true but it would make sense to me if that was the case.

 

[ultraChalk]

Fair enough.

No because the people affected by Gecko were affected by his fruit's power and not having his fruit themselves, so the salt works on lower forms of stems from a DF power? Does that makes sense to you? It's like how sea water and seastones affect DF users. Well actual salt works as a purifying effect of what a DF power did to someone else.

Not saying that's what happened or it's true but it would make sense to me if that was the case.

That's more understandable.

I'd like this to be officially addressed in the manga.

 

[chopstickchakra]

I believe Oda established that they're only effected by the weaknesses when they touch the outside of their skin.

Water Luffy could still function just fine, so consuming salt in their stomach wouldn't have an effect.

It's salt in general. Water Luffy drank fresh water which has no salt in it. Sea water has salt in it so we can eliminate the common water which leaves a difference of salt. Look at sea prism stones, you can't make water hard, that's just ice and it breaks, to make prison bars or a jutte like Smoker's you could mix salt into the metal. Salt is the real weakness, sea water contains salt, DF users can still bathe.

 

[Kαmi]

That's more understandable.

I'd like this to be officially addressed in the manga.

Yeah me too, maybe it was asked in a SBS at some point. And Chopstick has a good point too, so maybe it's just plain salt. Strange that seastones are so durable if they have salt in it but I guess there's more to them than that.

I hope Sanji shoves salt down in Luffy's throat out of anger or something random like that. I'd like to see what would happen

 

[xanonymosx]

nah it`s just moria`s zombies

 

[chopstickchakra]

Yeah me too, maybe it was asked in a SBS at some point. And Chopstick has a good point too, so maybe it's just plain salt. Strange that seastones are so durable if they have salt in it but I guess there's more to them than that.

I hope Sanji shoves salt down in Luffy's throat out of anger or something random like that. I'd like to see what would happen

I'm not certain but I'm fairly sure that a salt core, clump whatever you wish to call it, is rather dense.

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Here they talk about using them for molds because of the durability plus look at how solid this beast is

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If that baby hit you in the face you'd be done.

 

[cptenn94]

Speed reading Thriller Bark for god knows why, and Brook explained that zombies are weak to salt.

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But as you can see, he's clearly speaking generally about all salt, and how is has the power of the sea. So does this mean that all DF users are weak to salt?

No.

Devil fruit users are weak against water period(both salt and fresh). They are not weak against salt.

Zombies on the other hand are weak against salt.


As for where that came from, it came from a superstition.

Many zombies possess a rather significant weakness: should they ever let salt pass their lips, they will instantly realize that they are dead and attempt to return to their grave. Nothing will stop them, not even the Amway representative. Getting one to actually eat salt can be a bit difficult, though, so you may need to coat your body in the substance and invite them to chow down. Some zombies further require that you sew their mouths shut afterwards to keep the salt inside, so you’ll probably want to have a needle and thread available. There’s a reason seamstresses tend to survive a zombie apocalypse.

I hope that clears things up.

 

[chopstickchakra]

No.

Devil fruit users are weak against water period(both salt and fresh). They are not weak against salt.

Zombies on the other hand are weak against salt.


As for where that came from, it came from a superstition.


I hope that clears things up.

Sounds nice enough but then how were Luffy and Boa in her bath during their meeting? How do DF users clean themselves? Why didn't Luffy die after drinking a barrel full of water? How did Momo shower with Robin? How did Absalom stay invisible in the shower with Nami? How does Smoker have water in his Jitte? How are prison bars and handcuffs made with water in them(the heating process to strengthen the material would evaporate water)?

 

[Love Cook]

I think the salt thing is also a bit of a Japanese gimmick since how they purify ghosts and zombies in that culture. I think Oda just gave a DF spin to it. But in other folklore, tales, manga, anime and games. You sometimes have to purify ghosts and zombies with salt or tags too.

It's basically what garlic is to vampires in popular culture.

 

[Knights Saotome]

DF powers in a eater are to strong, to much power, for salt, a weak form of sea power, to nullify. moria's fruit in the zombie case was passed on to another and while being power by moria wasnt moria's power. say like this, if the salt was a butter knife and had to cut though DF powers the butter knife would only have an effect on a thin sheet of DF power, a tiny, cut it just a little. while seawater and sea prism stone are like cleavers and can cut though the DF power no matter how much there is. salt has just enough sea power to negate the tiny bit of devil fruit power keeping the shadows tied to the bodies.

 

[ultraChalk]

It's salt in general. Water Luffy drank fresh water which has no salt in it. Sea water has salt in it so we can eliminate the common water which leaves a difference of salt. Look at sea prism stones, you can't make water hard, that's just ice and it breaks, to make prison bars or a jutte like Smoker's you could mix salt into the metal. Salt is the real weakness, sea water contains salt, DF users can still bathe.

Oda already addressed this in an SBS as well.

D: Odacchi! Here's a question for you! Crocodile can't fight water because he's "sand," right? Then how does he bathe?! Does he at all?! That's filthy!! Do you bathe, Odacchi? by Crocodile's Mother

O: First of all, let's discuss the problem of Devil Fruit users bathing themselves. People who have eaten a Devil Fruit are "hated" by the sea, and cannot swim. The "sea" here can refer to anything from rivers, pools and baths to any kind of standing water. On a worldwide level, they are all the "sea." When these people enter the water, not only can they not use their powers, they have trouble moving their bodies at all.

Plus, in One Piece movie Z we saw Brooke and Luffy weakened by the effects of a spring, which I don't believe has salt in it. So really that means any type of water is a weakness, not just salt water... so naturally salt and fresh water separate would do the same thing.

So bathing does make them weak on varying levels.

Sounds nice enough but then how were Luffy and Boa in her bath during their meeting? How do DF users clean themselves? Why didn't Luffy die after drinking a barrel full of water? How did Momo shower with Robin? How did Absalom stay invisible in the shower with Nami? How does Smoker have water in his Jitte? How are prison bars and handcuffs made with water in them(the heating process to strengthen the material would evaporate water)?

They become weak on varying levels. Oda said they usually take hip-level baths or showers.

 

[ultraChalk]

No.

Devil fruit users are weak against water period(both salt and fresh). They are not weak against salt.

Zombies on the other hand are weak against salt.


As for where that came from, it came from a superstition.



I hope that clears things up.

Wow, I've never heard of the universal weakness that zombies have to salt.

I can rest in peace now, this explains every ting.

 

[Punk Hazard]

It's salt in general. Water Luffy drank fresh water which has no salt in it. Sea water has salt in it so we can eliminate the common water which leaves a difference of salt. Look at sea prism stones, you can't make water hard, that's just ice and it breaks, to make prison bars or a jutte like Smoker's you could mix salt into the metal. Salt is the real weakness, sea water contains salt, DF users can still bathe.

Oda confirmed that all types of water, not just seawater, has the same effect on Devil Fruit users. And for the "they can still bathe", it's not until they're knee deep in water that they become immobilized, so they can bathe as long as the water is below their knees.

Oda also stated that only standing water will rob them of their powers. This means things like waves, rain or showers won't affect them. That pretty much answers all of your questions.

Oh, by the way, to everyone confused about seastone, it's just that: stone. It's not a metal that is infused with salt or water, it's just an incredibly hard stone that gives off the same energy as the sea.