Coud Sakura lift Gamabuntas sword as Tsunade without the Byakugou Seal

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But answer this where is the definition of CES defined in the databook?

Currently i cannot find CES databook pages, Which makes me ask the question is it's official translation chakra enhanced strength or is it a fan given name from wiki.

 

[KingHashirama]

Currently i cannot find CES databook pages, Which makes me ask the question is it's official translation chakra enhanced strength or is it a fan given name from wiki.

I am honestly starting to think its a fan name. Even in the wikia there is no "databook" reference in the chakra enhanced strength section.

Because to me it never made strength, how only Sakura and Tsunade were the ones who were claimed to be only using "chakra enhanced strength". When Sage mode andetc all do the same thing enhancing strength via chakra.


And something else you should notice in the wikia (the place where alot of people get the crap about "tsunade's natural strength") that they don't have any reference where the feat has been credited towards Tsunade's natural strength. And apparently her destroying susanoo was with her natural sterngth, and not with CES.

 

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Currently i cannot find CES databook pages, Which makes me ask the question is it's official translation chakra enhanced strength or is it a fan given name from wiki.

and cherry blossom impact dosen't show tsunade as user[if i remember correctly] despite the fact she showed powerfull punches and is specifically about cherry blossom petal like effect being created by punching the ground or opponent to ground

 

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I am honestly starting to think its a fan name. Even in the wikia there is no "databook" reference in the chakra enhanced strength section.

Because to me it never made strength, how only Sakura and Tsunade were the ones who were claimed to be only using "chakra enhanced strength". When Sage mode andetc all do the same thing enhancing strength via chakra.

If you look on wiki, They list the Official and translated names

Name
Kanji 百豪の印
Rōmaji Byakugō no In
Literal English Strength of a Hundred Seal
Viz manga Hyakugou Seal
English TV Reserve Seal
Other Yin Seal (陰封印, Infūin), 100 Healings Mark

CES has none of this, Plus even though it was introducted in part 1, There doesn't seem to be any pages on it in any of the 3 databooks. Apart from sakura version that i linked.

If it is indeed a fan made name, That might be where the confusion of chakra actually enhancing physical strength is coming from.

 

[KingHashirama]

If you look on wiki, They list the Official and translated names

Name
Kanji 百豪の印
Rōmaji Byakugō no In
Literal English Strength of a Hundred Seal
Viz manga Hyakugou Seal
English TV Reserve Seal
Other Yin Seal (陰封印, Infūin), 100 Healings Mark

CES has none of this, Plus even though it was introducted in part 1, There doesn't seem to be any pages on it in any of the 3 databooks. Apart from sakura version that i linked.

If it is indeed a fan made name, That might be where the confusion of chakra actually enhancing physical strength is coming from.

we already know both of them use chakra to enhance their strength. Jiraiya already made that clear when he said she raised another tsunade.

Chakra has been constantly been used to increase speed (Minato/Gai/Tobirama/Shisui and etc), it has been used to walk on water. Chakra can be used to enhance anything, reflexes/reactions/hearing (done by tsunade). Thats why chakra control is OP and made Tsunade better in combat than the other 2 sanin (atleast according to jiraiya).

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What caused the confusion was Sakura getting that enormous strength, and then people started adding in this crap about "tsunade's magical natural physical strength".

No one was talking about this "natural strength" of Tsunade until Sakura started being compared to her.

I have found it funny, that alot of stuff comes up when Sakura is involved in something.

 

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If you look on wiki, They list the Official and translated names

Name
Kanji 百豪の印
Rōmaji Byakugō no In
Literal English Strength of a Hundred Seal
Viz manga Hyakugou Seal
English TV Reserve Seal
Other Yin Seal (陰封印, Infūin), 100 Healings Mark

CES has none of this, Plus even though it was introducted in part 1, There doesn't seem to be any pages on it in any of the 3 databooks. Apart from sakura version that i linked.

If it is indeed a fan made name, That might be where the confusion of chakra actually enhancing physical strength is coming from.

its a fanbase made name
None of the refrence links on Narutopedia pg shows or mentions its DB pg

 

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we already know both of them use chakra to enhance their strength. Jiraiya already made that clear when he said she raised another tsunade.

Jiraiya statement proves nothing of chakra actually increasing their strength, SO his statement is irreverent here

Chakra has been constantly been used to increase speed (Minato/Gai/Tobirama/Shisui and etc), it has been used to walk on water. Chakra can be used to enhance anything, reflexes/reactions/hearing (done by tsunade). Thats why chakra control is OP and made Tsunade better in combat than the other 2 sanin (atleast according to jiraiya).

Increase speed via Body flicker, which speed is based on chakra. Base speed hasn't been increase by chakra

Chakra has never been used by tsunade to enhance her Reflexes/reactions nor hearing.

 

[Apêx1]

No, she cannot increase her raw strength. She can simply coat her hand in chakra and release it for a highly focused and powerful punch. She can't do things Tsunade does ie cracking the floor with her pinky and carrying Bunta's sword.

 

[KingHashirama]

Jiraiya statement proves nothing of chakra actually increasing their strength, SO his statement is irreverent here



Increase speed via Body flicker, which speed is based on chakra. Base speed hasn't been increase by chakra, expect when Sage chakra is involved.

Chakra has never been used by ysunade to enhance her Reflexes/reactions nor hearing.

body flicker = Base speed enhanced via chakra control....

Tsunade/Sakura have used this already. Minato/Tobiram and etc use shunshin the jutsu itself... which also nothing more than focusing chakra and etc.

she was able to hear orochimaru's heart. . She is specialized in chakra control. Everything she has /does is evolved around chakra control. Her and Sakura are ninja who simply can utilize chakra to increase the physicality of the human body to its peak. That is pretty much it.

And now Sakura is better than Tsunade. All the Sanins ahve been surpassed. Its done. Don't know why there is still stubbornness with people who don't like sakura (who inittially bashed Tsunade also) surpassing Tsunade. Nothing big, thats how the manga works.


And also, it wasn't just jiraiya... Even Kakashi acknowledges her having the same type of strength as Tsunade. Hence why he says her being a genjutsu type originally will make her surpass Tsunade.

 

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No offence just asking
isn't all of Tsunade's feat is with 'strength of hundred seal' after activating which the strength of Sakura's single punch did Juubi clones massacre

 

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she was able to hear orochimaru's heart. . She is specialized in chakra control. Everything she has /does is evolved around chakra control. Her and Sakura are ninja who simply can utilize chakra to increase the physicality of the human body to its peak. That is pretty much it.

She heared Oro's heart?, Care to give me a page?.

And now Sakura is better than Tsunade. All the Sanins ahve been surpassed. Its done. Don't know why there is still stubbornness with people who don't like sakura (who inittially bashed Tsunade also) surpassing Tsunade. Nothing big, thats how the manga works.

Sakura hasn't surpassed her completely yet. All she has surpassed her in is hitting harder and having larger chakra (Give tsunade 3 years of chakra gather and i would bet she could do far better than current sakura has).

Even Kakashi acknowledges her having the same type of strength as Tsunade. Hence why he says her being a genjutsu type originally will make her surpass Tsunade.

Same type as in they use the same Technique when it comes to punching and such. Kakashi already explained it as simply building up chakra in her fist and releasing it.

It wasn't kakashi saying she has the same physical strength as tsunade it's just that both her and tsunade build up chakra and release it before impact. Thats was the comparison he was making.

 

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Jiraiya statement proves nothing of chakra actually increasing their strength, SO his statement is irreverent here

Punching requires strength i guess :|
and correct me if i m wrong
she stopped a juubi clone using strength[no punching]

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this happened after she punched it and i think last panel shows the juubi clone flying by the sheer amount of strength and speed of her[no punching]

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and the final punch

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I like how people make false claims about tsunade strength. Who taught sakura the CES? Tsunade
Who developed CES in their taijustu style to make them self stronger? Tsunade
I wonder why tsunade was claimed to have monstrous strength? Maybe it was CES
Hashirama a pure blood senju and the strongest senju doesn't naturally have her strength level. Yet you guys think it's natural?

This whole debate is just to degrade sakura strength capabilities. And make tsunade look stronger

Part 1 she carried a huge tree log and placed it in a trap high up in the trees. You think that's normal strength? The log is huge

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She pulled sasori wire quickly and reeled him to her. You think anyone can pull that fast and pull someone across the battlefield to them?

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She punched a huge summon by pain, and knocked it out. If she used ces it would have flew towards the buildings. (She punched a huge iron sand block using ces and it flew across the field fast)

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She made this much damage with just simply hitting zetsu with her elbow. No enhanced strength

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Sakura can lift the sword. Anyone who denies this, is just denying facts. And like how others above said, people can enhance their strength using chakra. Prime example sage mode users and choji.

 

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Punching requires strength i guess :|
and correct me if i m wrong
she stopped a juubi clone using strength[no punching]

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this happened after she punched it and i think last panel shows the juubi clone flying by the sheer amount of strength and speed of her[no punching]

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and the final punch

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Stopping the juubi clone is a strength feat but not a great one. Even Hinata was able to push them back.

 

[TheEvilOne]

Stopping the juubi clone is a strength feat but not a great one. Even Hinata was able to push them back.

She punched the clone with her normal CES. The second punch was after her seal appeared.

 

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I like how people make false claims about tsunade strength. Who taught sakura the CES? Tsunade
Who developed CES in their taijustu style to make them self stronger? Tsunade
I wonder why tsunade was claimed to have monstrous strength? Maybe it was CES
Hashirama a pure blood senju and the strongest senju doesn't naturally have her strength level. Yet you guys think it's natural?

This whole debate is just to degrade sakura strength capabilities. And make tsunade look stronger

Part 1 she carried a huge tree log and placed it in a trap high up in the trees. You think that's normal strength? The log is huge

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She pulled sasori wire quickly and reeled him to her. You think anyone can pull that fast and pull someone across the battlefield to them?

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She punched a huge summon by pain, and knocked it out. If she used ces it would have flew towards the buildings. (She punched a huge iron sand block using ces and it flew across the field fast)

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She made this much damage with just simply hitting zetsu with her elbow. No enhanced strength

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Sakura can lift the sword. Anyone who denies this, is just denying facts. And like how nothers above said, people can enhance their strength using chakra. Prime example sage mode users and choji.

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Stopping the juubi clone is a strength feat but not a great one. Even Hinata was able to push them back.

After punching it she jumped and the sheer strength and speed caused the multiple juubi clones flying out of the way.She didn't punch any of them there.

She punched the clone with her normal CES. The second punch was after her seal appeared.

See the second scan.She stopped it

 

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:itachi: -The solo Aura is too strong in this ^^^ post

He didn't solo shite.

All the scans after Pulling sasori were done by CES.

After punching it she jumped and the sheer strength and speed caused the multiple juubi clones flying out of the way.She didn't punch any of them there.

The jump she did wasn't based on Strength.

It was simple chakra control, Like sasuke did here

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Sakura even done in during the chunin exams (obviously smaller scale)

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[KingHashirama]

She heared Oro's heart?, Care to give me a page?.



Sakura hasn't surpassed her completely yet. All she has surpassed her in is hitting harder and having larger chakra (Give tsunade 3 years of chakra gather and i would bet she could do far better than current sakura has).




Same type as in they use the same Technique when it comes to punching and such. Kakashi already explained it as simply building up chakra in her fist and releasing it.

It wasn't kakashi saying she has the same physical strength as tsunade it's just that both her and tsunade build up chakra and release it before impact. Thats was the comparison he was making.

took tsunade more than 3 years to unlock the yinseal . ROFLLL

It only took sakura 3.


unlocking the yinseal =/= regaining it.

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Alright so in punching its CES, now show me where its stated she has natural physical strengt.h

 

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He didn't solo shite.


All the scans after Pulling sasori were done by CES.[//U]

No off bro
i was talking about these

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As for underline i discussing pro seal and CES Sakura.I don;t think Sakura without any enhancement could do dat

The jump she did wasn't based on Strength.

It was simple chakra control, Like sasuke did here

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Sakura even done in during the chunin exams (obviously smaller scale)

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And still the juubi clones were sent flying becoz of it.Those scans can't compare to her power and speed here which is on diff lvl

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took tsunade more than 3 years to unlock the yinseal . ROFLLL

It only took sakura 3.

I was talking about filling it up.

After tsunade exhausts the chakra in her seal, she only spents weeks (if that) gathering chakra up before using it again.

Sakura spent 3 Years filling up her seal.