Sasuke DID awaken rinnegan

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Rinnegan is awakened by bringing out Hagoromo chakra, hagoromo gave his chakra to them and thats how sasuke got his rinnegan

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He cannot get rinnegan from hashirama's dna anymore because he was no longer an ashura reincarnate, no one can

No where stated ashura chakra left hashi DNA, that's why them DNA still potent as hashi were alive
 

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In his case, it was given to him w/o any hardwork. Freebies ftw!
 

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No where stated ashura chakra left hashi DNA, that's why them DNA still potent as hashi were alive

Transmigration was over for them both, the new transmigrants are naruto and sasuke



Chakra doesnt stay with anyone, it moves on with the end of transmigration

 

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Hagoromos ghost came out from madaras legs wich proves he still have asura and indra from his own chakura and hashirama
 

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Transmigration was over for them both, the new transmigrants are naruto and sasuke



Chakra doesnt stay with anyone, it moves on with the end of transmigration


Soul is not chakra. Soul moves, chakra tag along. Chakra is energy, which can be isolated separated from the soul. Madara proved chakra can be separated from the soul and therefore he owned ashura chakra as long as he lived. And when he died, his soul departed from his body which has ashura chakra, so he no longer own it.

Soul =\= chakra. When people talk about transmigration and reincarnation, they talking about the departure of the soul(not energy) even though the soul has energy
 
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Soul is not chakra. Soul moves, chakra tag along. Chakra is energy, which can be isolated separated from the soul. Madara proved chakra can be separated from the soul and therefore he owned ashura chakra as long as he lived. And when he died, his soul departed from his body which has ashura chakra, so he no longer own it.

Soul =\= chakra

GG This thread should be closed.
 

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So you pay for premium, and dont even read the threads on the site you pay for. weird guy

I choose to not read threads when i know the answer is in the manga. Thanks.
 

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Reincarnation operate through souls/spirits. In any case, I would like for someone intellectual to explain to me, how reincarnation affects biological materials. In which case, it doesn't. Indra's Chakra and Ashura's Chakra are passed down to the entire Uchiha and Senju clan; not just Hashirama or Madara. That's how the Uchiha possess the Sharingan (a material which can only be possessed by Indra's Chakra) and powerful body (material of Ashura's Chakra). So, Rinnegan can be awakened either possessing the Uchiha & Senju blood or Indra's Chakra & Ashura's Chakra. The 2 terms are related.

In regards to the OP's thread, you're incorrect. Rinnegan was given to Sasuke. [ ] Naruto received the Yang that bestowed him the body of Hagoromo and Sasuke received the Yin that bestowed him the eye of Hagoromo. Both are split powers of Hagoromo.​
 

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It was stated that in order to awaken rinnegan you need both senju and uchiha dna...you could even go as far as to say you need ashura and indras essence..

Just like Madara, Sasuke received Dna from hashirama, i don't remember what chapter, but when hashi was pinned to the floor, he told sasuke to come to him, so he can give him something.

Now how did he awaken it after that?Because he nearly died. Madara told obito he awakened the rinnegan when he was near death. Sasuke practically died. This enabled him to awaken the rinnegan.


So to awaken the rinnegan you need senju/uchiha dna plus be near death. This applied to both Madara and Sasuke. So people who say sasuke recieved the rinnegan are fools.

only thing i cant explain is why he only got it in one eye , and with tomoes. perhaps him meeting with the sage and recieving a bit of chakra is what pushed his rinnegan to an even further stage. But even if this never happened, sasuke would have had regular rinnegan.​

Wrong. Sasuke got te little bit of Hashirama chakra he had left and a jutsu to bind Madara, Kabuto used Hashirama's cells to help revive Sasuke . Hagaromo already said Madara only got the Rinnegan because he got Ashura's chakra via Hashirama's flesh when the transmigration was still in affect for them . Therefore Sasuke can't awaken the Rinnegan with Hashirama's DNA and can only do so with Naruto's DNA. Hagaromo's Yin chakra powered up Sasuke's EMS to a Rinnegan as that's they power Indra recieved (eyes and yin chakra [powerful chakra and spiritual energy]).

Madara only knew what was on the tablet which Black Zetsu tampered with so Hagaromo who wrote the actual tablet would know more about it than Madara and Obito never awakened the Rinnegan because he didn't have Ashura and Indra chakra, only Hashirama's cells after the Transmigration was over.
 

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Reincarnation operate through souls/spirits. In any case, I would like for someone intellectual to explain to me, how reincarnation affects biological materials. In which case, it doesn't. Indra's Chakra and Ashura's Chakra are passed down to the entire Uchiha and Senju clan; not just Hashirama or Madara. That's how the Uchiha possess the Sharingan (a material which can only be possessed by Indra's Chakra) and powerful body (material of Ashura's Chakra). So, Rinnegan can be awakened either possessing the Uchiha & Senju blood or Indra's Chakra & Ashura's Chakra. The 2 terms are related.

In regards to the OP's thread, you're incorrect. Rinnegan was given to Sasuke. [ ] Naruto received the Yang that bestowed him the body of Hagoromo and Sasuke received the Yin that bestowed him the eye of Hagoromo. Both are split powers of Hagoromo.​

Yin + yang = rinnegan

Naruto has yang, no rinnegan

Sasuke has yin, yes rinnegan

Yang and yin is the signs on their hands so they can perform the seal. And the signs gives them boost in powe too. The eye is irrelevant. Ying doesn't give rinnegan just as yang doesnt give rinnegan

And if you say sasuke has rikudou power so he have rinnegan, then naruto has rinnegan as well
 
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Soul =\= chakra. When people talk about transmigration and reincarnation, they talking about the departure of the soul(not energy) even though the soul has energy

boy what manga is this from? because it sure isnt from naruto

In naruto transmigration has solely to do with chakra

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Soul is not chakra. Soul moves, chakra tag along. Chakra is energy, which can be isolated separated from the soul. Madara proved chakra can be separated from the soul and therefore he owned ashura chakra as long as he lived. And when he died, his soul departed from his body which has ashura chakra, so he no longer own it.

if you only learned about the difference between soul and chakra last few chapters after seeing madara then welp
 

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boy what manga is this from? because it sure isnt from naruto

In naruto transmigration has solely to do with chakra

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if you only learned about the difference between soul and chakra last few chapters after seeing madara then welp

Transmigration is not from manga, its the real word that exists thousands of years before kishi. And this word has everything to do with souls directly
 

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Yin + yang = rinnegan

False. [ ]​

Naruto has yang, no rinnegan

Because he lacks Indra's Chakra.​

Sasuke has yin, yes rinnegan

Because he has Ashura's Chakra via Hashirama's cells, that in conjunction with Indra's Chakra, awakens the Rinnegan.​

Yang and yin is the signs on their hands so they can perform the seal. And the signs gives them boost in powe too. The eye is irrelevant. Ying doesn't give rinnegan just as yang doesnt give rinnegan

I don't understand this blabbing.​

And if you say sasuke has rikudou power so he have rinnegan, then naruto has rinnegan as well

Because Sasuke has Indra's Chakra & Ashura's Chakra, while Naruto only has Ashura's Chakra.​
 

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So why doesn't he have it in both eyes like madara?
 

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False. [ ]​



Because he lacks Indra's Chakra.​



Because he has Ashura's Chakra via Hashirama's cells, that in conjunction with Indra's Chakra, awakens the Rinnegan.​



I don't understand this blabbing.​



Because Sasuke has Indra's Chakra & Ashura's Chakra, while Naruto only has Ashura's Chakra.​

Seems like you agree with me. Let me close it by saying. They gave sasuke the chakra/cell, and sasuke use it to awaken his own rinnegan
 

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So why doesn't he have it in both eyes like madara?

Because kishi trying to be creative by giving him mutated 6 tomes with only one eye due to yin power perhaps
 

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Yin + yang = rinnegan

Naruto has yang, no rinnegan

Sasuke has yin, yes rinnegan

Yang and yin is the signs on their hands so they can perform the seal. And the signs gives them boost in powe too. The eye is irrelevant. Ying doesn't give rinnegan just as yang doesnt give rinnegan

Indra got the Sage's eyes and was gifted with powerful chakra and spiritual energy (Yin) and Ashura got the Sage body and was gifted with lifeforce and physical energy (Yang) . Hagaromo made Sasuke like Indra with his Yin chakra and Naruto like Ashura with his Yang. Yin= eyes yang= body when it comes to Indra reincarnations and Ashura reincarnations. Madara was said to be born with very powerful chakra even among the Uchihas and Sasuke's chakra was compared to Madara's by Kurama and Madara mentions how Sasuke have straight comas like him more than once. No other way for Sasuke to get the Rinnegan but Hagaromo as Hagaromo already said Madara only got the Rinnegan because he got a Hashirama's cells before the transmigration was over and it's currently Naruto who is Ashura's reincarnation.
 
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