[Confirmed]Sasuke is holding back against Narudoe.

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I don't want to rustle jimmies...if they do get rustled then that's not my fault. Merely facts...I'm not on anyone's side.

Same can be said for Sasuke...that Naruto wishes to break him mentally. You see...that's the exact opposite parallel.

Sasuke is yin, eyes, mental abilities

Naruto is yang, body, physical abilities.

Yet they wish to bring their experience to each other in their own way. If you don't understand I'll be gladly to explain.

I get it, but to be honest there is no need to bring yin yang into this,as that parallel was overidden with Sasuke's acquisition of the Sharinnegan, and Narudoe's of the Gedoudama. Sasuke is simply holding back against Naruto, it's a clever way for Kishimoto to show Sasuke's superiority.
 

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No it isn't :|. How does Sasuke holding back=Sasuke being inferior to Narudoe,Lol? If anything it states his superiority as the strongest alive. A lot of people care, including you, in fact you cared enough to post in the thread.

1 I meant Sasuke>Naruto
2 I don't care and just becuase I posted in this thread does not mean I care about the thread topic. It's so annoying to see people fighting like little toddlers about who Is stronger Naruto or Sasuke there are like 10,000,000 threads in this topic already, and this topic has been the focus of many threads lately. These topics are stale and they are one of The many reasons why I am finding the Naruto disscusion section of this forum to be less enjoyable everyday.
 

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This sounds like an excuse for when he gets stomped
 

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I get it, but to be honest there is no need to bring yin yang into this,as that parallel was overidden with Sasuke's acquisition of the Sharinnegan, and Narudoe's of the Gedoudama. Sasuke is simply holding back against Naruto, it's a clever way for Kishimoto to show Sasuke's superiority.

Sharinnegan is sasuke's rightful power.

If that was true then they would have both had each symbol. Also it was actually confirmed when sasuke (hebi) said "I let you live on a whim."
 

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Such fail logic. Sasuke isn't holding anything back, he said himself he grew accostume to his Rinnegan in the past fights. Sasuke have 9 Bijuus trapped in CT so he doesn't need Naruto.
Lol, him getting accustomed to the rinnegan is more of a reason Sasuke will hold back.

You make it sounds like CT would work on Naruto in the same fashion, the Bijuus are living masses of chakra so Sasuke turning them into the core which is chakra itself makes sense while Naruto is flesh and bones plus if he goes RM his truth seeking balls would most likely negate CT. Sasuke already severed his bond to Naruto so he doesn't view Naruto as a friend as far as we know, he voiced that he will kill Naruto last time they met and Naruto said he'll do anything to save his friends, the Bijuus.
I don't see why it wouldn't. Naruto has chakra within him, whats stopping Sasuke from doing the same with Naruto? Where has it been stated that Sasuke's CT's unique ability does not work on humans and or beings with a less amount of chakra, or 'diluted' masses of chakra; those with flesh,bone etc?

Sasuke only won 1 fight against Naruto without plot and that was the academy fight. Every other fight had obvious ways for Naruto to win such as Kakashi not intervening, Summoning Gamabuta, not being weakening from fighting Orochimaru and going 4 tails, and not fighting Sasuke because Obito and Zetsu came. If this fight have no plot and they just fight with everything they got then we'll see the winner and no I'm not saying Naruto because both are clearly in The Last.
Sasuke defeated Naruto 4 times. You can get butthurt over whether or not it was plot, but the fact remains that Sasuke defeated Narudoe 4 times.
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Naruto have no training with his RM so him getting use to it in battle while also doing more damage against Kaguya shows his superiory by your logic. I can use your argument against you since it doesn't say or show he can use in on a non-Chakra made creature so you saying otherwise is pure speculation. If you call those wins for Sasuke then that's just sad that he needs Naruto to hold back, be weakened, or have others save him from Naruto. You just making Sasuke look bad by saying he have 4-0 wins when it's only 1-0 which stills puts him on top but without plot helping him.

With that logic Sakura neg diff Sasuke when she had the kunai at his back but spared him so by your logic Sakura>Sasuke last arc huh? A win is a win right?

Sasuke already put Naruto above him when it was BM/BSM and EMS and and that's Naruto at about less than halve his power since Yang Kurama was out and he had to borrow some from Yin Kurama then gave a ton of chakra to the Alliance with Minato. So Let's add their other powerups. Sasuke got Hashirama's DNA that boost stamina, the little chakra Hashirama had left, a jutsu that Hashirama said would work on Madara, and the Sage's Yin chakra that gave him the Rinnegan. Naruto have Yin Kurama who can fully recharge his chakra, the abilities granted to him by the other 8 Bijuus, and the Sage's Yang chakra that gave him the truth seeking balls that we've seen block extremely powerful attacks and negate ninjutsus. Add all of that up and Naruto is overall stronger since Sasuke was jealous of only half or lower of Naruto's overall power.
 

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Naruto have no training with his RM so him getting use to it in battle while also doing more damage against Kaguya shows his superiory by your logic. I can use your argument against you since it doesn't say or show he can use in on a non-Chakra made creature so you saying otherwise is pure speculation. If you call those wins for Sasuke then that's just sad that he needs Naruto to hold back, be weakened, or have others save him from Naruto. You just making Sasuke look bad by saying he have 4-0 wins when it's only 1-0 which stills puts him on top but without plot helping him.

With that logic Sakura neg diff Sasuke when she had the kunai at his back but spared him so by your logic Sakura>Sasuke last arc huh? A win is a win right?

Sasuke already put Naruto above him when it was BM/BSM and EMS and and that's Naruto at about less than halve his power since Yang Kurama was out and he had to borrow some from Yin Kurama then gave a ton of chakra to the Alliance with Minato. So Let's add their other powerups. Sasuke got Hashirama's DNA that boost stamina, the little chakra Hashirama had left, a jutsu that Hashirama said would work on Madara, and the Sage's Yin chakra that gave him the Rinnegan. Naruto have Yin Kurama who can fully recharge his chakra, the abilities granted to him by the other 8 Bijuus, and the Sage's Yang chakra that gave him the truth seeking balls that we've seen block extremely powerful attacks and negate ninjutsus. Add all of that up and Naruto is overall stronger since Sasuke was jealous of only half or lower of Naruto's overall power.

What do you mean my logic? Sasuke was holding back in the Kaguya fight, whereas Naruto was going all out. How is saying the 'score', making Sasuke look bad? If anything it does the opposite.

Lol what? Sasuke beat Sakura. Sakura hesitated in a decisive moment, leading to her loss. She did not win, nor was she capable of winning at the time, due to her mental weakness when it comes to Sasuke.

Why are we bringing the past into this? Sasuke is, meaning currently, holding back against naruto. The rest of that paragraph is completely irrelevant.
 

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What do you mean my logic? Sasuke was holding back in the Kaguya fight, whereas Naruto was going all out. How is saying the 'score', making Sasuke look bad? If anything it does the opposite.

Lol what? Sasuke beat Sakura. Sakura hesitated in a decisive moment, leading to her loss. She did not win, nor was she capable of winning at the time, due to her mental weakness when it comes to Sasuke.

Why are we bringing the past into this? Sasuke is, meaning currently, holding back against naruto. The rest of that paragraph is completely irrelevant.

Sasuke was not holding back against Kaguya, that would be really stupid of him to do that and risk dying. Plus he said he got use to his Rinnegan from the past fights and we already saw MS Sasuke go all out to get use to his MS powers. Sasuke and Naruto were both testing their powers but unlike Naruto who have Yin Kurama who can easily replenish his chakra, Sasuke cannot.

You counting plot wins make Sasuke look like he can't win against Naruto without Kishi holding Naruto back someways which sucks for those of us who actually like Sasuke. If he lose he lose but if he need special treatment to win then that makes Sasuke look weaker than Naruto. See how you explained how Sakura wouldn't have won? That's what I'm doing but you're making excuses for Sasuke, they have never had a full on fight with no limitations or hold backs since the academy. Even the current fight isn't really fair, Naruto have like 5 days of fighting but can replenish his chakra via Bijuus while Sasuke cannot and he used a lot of chakra in PS and Rinnegan jutsus.

Past? That's the same arc! Naruto is currently holding back even more than Sasuke as he WS already stronger than Sasuke before their latest powerup which the Sage divided evenly but Naruto also gained 8 other powers via 8 other Bijuus. Naruto never even went Bijuu Avatar at all when Sasuke went PS many times and got it destroyed.
 

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Sasuke was not holding back against Kaguya, that would be really stupid of him to do that and risk dying. Plus he said he got use to his Rinnegan from the past fights and we already saw MS Sasuke go all out to get use to his MS powers. Sasuke and Naruto were both testing their powers but unlike Naruto who have Yin Kurama who can easily replenish his chakra, Sasuke cannot.

You counting plot wins make Sasuke look like he can't win against Naruto without Kishi holding Naruto back someways which sucks for those of us who actually like Sasuke. If he lose he lose but if he need special treatment to win then that makes Sasuke look weaker than Naruto. See how you explained how Sakura wouldn't have won? That's what I'm doing but you're making excuses for Sasuke, they have never had a full on fight with no limitations or hold backs since the academy. Even the current fight isn't really fair, Naruto have like 5 days of fighting but can replenish his chakra via Bijuus while Sasuke cannot and he used a lot of chakra in PS and Rinnegan jutsus.

Past? That's the same arc! Naruto is currently holding back even more than Sasuke as he WS already stronger than Sasuke before their latest powerup which the Sage divided evenly but Naruto also gained 8 other powers via 8 other Bijuus. Naruto never even went Bijuu Avatar at all when Sasuke went PS many times and got it destroyed.

What you don't get is that so6p's spoonfed is only the sign on the palm, not the senjutsu(which came from all Bijus) Lol
 

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What you don't get is that so6p's spoonfed is only the sign on the palm, not the senjutsu(which came from all Bijus) Lol

Incorrect, he gave then chakra as well. Sasuke got Hagaromo Yin chakra and Naruto his Yang chakra and Bijuus didn't give Senjutsu. Naruto keep Gai alive and prolonged Obito's life for a bit. Sasuke himself told Naruto to use the hermits power and that he will use the Six path power too and . Yin chakra gave Sasuke his Rinnegan and the Yang Chakra gave Naruto his truth seeking balls.
 

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Just to add; Sasuke will be fighting Naruto while maintaining 9 CTs in mid-air and also subjugating 9 tailed beasts with genjutsu.
 

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Incorrect, he gave then chakra as well. Sasuke got Hagaromo Yin chakra and Naruto his Yang chakra and Bijuus didn't give Senjutsu. Naruto keep Gai alive and prolonged Obito's life for a bit. Sasuke himself told Naruto to use the hermits power and that he will use the Six path power too and . Yin chakra gave Sasuke his Rinnegan and the Yang Chakra gave Naruto his truth seeking balls.

Yin power doesn't give rinnegan just as yang power doesn't give rinnegan. Jubito and jubidara both have the same senjutsu ball naruto has. The jutsu sealing power lies in there sun/moon palms, has nothing to do with black balls and rinnegan
 

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Yin power doesn't give rinnegan just as yang power doesn't give rinnegan. Jubito and jubidara both have the same senjutsu ball naruto has. The jutsu sealing power lies in there sun/moon palms, has nothing to do with black balls and rinnegan

Incorrect. Going back to Obito explaining about the Sages sons to Naruto, Kakashi, and Yamato. Indra got the Sage's eyes and was gifted with powerful chakra and spiritual energy (Yin chakra) Sasuke's powerup was in his eyes and he was given Yin chakra while Naruto's was a mode that enhance him physically thanks to the Yang chakra. Where do you think Sasuke got his Rinnegan from? Wasn't from having Hashirama's DNA because Hagaromo already said Madara only gained the Rinnegan because he got Hashirama's DNA before their transmigration was over and it was long over by the time Sasuke got it so unless you can show me where Sasuke took some of Naruto's flesh or blood, he got his Rinnegan from Hagaromo's Yin chakra.

Both Madara and Obito had the complete Yin Yang chakra of the Sage so of course they would have the truth seeking balls. Minato said Madara have more hermit power than Obito did then Kakashi asked Madara how he got the Rikudo power . The seals were only just that, seals for CT, not the power the Sage gave them but a seal along with the power. Madara talked about Naruto who have the Sage of six path Senjutsu and Sasuke who have the Rinnegan then goes on to say he has both powers .
 

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Thats the only way Naruto is going to win
 

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Lol okay, with that logic lets take in something waaaay back in part 1 and the early shippuden times.

at the VoTe battle, Naruto was holding back because he didn't go 4 tails and wreck sasuke's ass nor did he summon gamabunta to stomp Sasuke low-diff.

at the early shippuden battle, Naruto wasn't fighting back because he wasnt fighting Sasuke.

at the kage summit-arc battle, Naruto was holding back because he didn't go into sage mode and wreck Sasuke.

So basically Naruto had been holding back so many times that these threads just become ten times as pointless as they already were.
 
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