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Aizen never beat Candice.
That's just half true. He finished them with just his zanjutsu, but before that he used KS on them.
[Discussion] How strong is aizen compared to the sternritters?
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That's just half true. He finished them with just his zanjutsu, but before that he used KS on them.
Aizen never beat Candice.
That's just half true. He finished them with just his zanjutsu, but before that he used KS on them.
Fuc I didn't mean Candice. And if I remember correctly Aizen finished off Rose, Lisa, Love and Komaura without KS. So I don't think Candice is as strong as them altogether. Aizen should beat Candice quite easily with KS.
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As I said, he just finished them with KS, but nearly whole fight he fought against them with using KS. After they realised that he used KS, he finished them with sword slashes, but he did use KS befero in the match.
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Gremmy is the only quincy so far who puts aizen to shame!!!! and i am a huge fan of aizen but he cant win against gremmy u_u
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Dangai Ichigo
Monster Aizen
(huge gap)
Juha Bach
Bankai Yamamoto
Royal Guards
(huge gap)
Sternritters
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Monster Aizen
(huge gap)
Juha Bach
Bankai Yamamoto
Royal Guards
(huge gap)
Sternritters
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Ok so you think shingami aizen can beat..Byakuya,zaraki,kyoraku an jugram hachswalt?...an myuri is god nobody can beat him now.
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Killua Zoldyck
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Yhwach fodderizes him.
Haschwalth beats him fairly easily.
Ishida beats him fairly easily.
Royd beats him with some difficulty.
Gremmy beats him with some difficulty.
Bazz-B beats him with some difficulty.
Nainzol beats him with moderate difficulty.
I think the last two SternRitter (and possibly Askin) are also going to end uo being stronger then him.
Fodderize = No-Diff
Fairly Easily = Easy-Diff
Some Difficulty = Easy-Mid Diff
Moderate Difficulty = Mid-Diff.
Haschwalth beats him fairly easily.
Ishida beats him fairly easily.
Royd beats him with some difficulty.
Gremmy beats him with some difficulty.
Bazz-B beats him with some difficulty.
Nainzol beats him with moderate difficulty.
I think the last two SternRitter (and possibly Askin) are also going to end uo being stronger then him.
Fodderize = No-Diff
Fairly Easily = Easy-Diff
Some Difficulty = Easy-Mid Diff
Moderate Difficulty = Mid-Diff.
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In his base form, he could probably go toe to toe with any of them, except possibly haschwald and Juha Bach of course. Hogyoku Aizen beats Haschwald and Juha Bach as well.
Then again, i have no idea how strong haschwald is.
Then again, i have no idea how strong haschwald is.
IIRC, aizen vs the shinigami in the Fake karakura Town arc actually had the hogyoku in him, I am not sure whether or not it did have an effect, but I do know that Aizen was hesitant to attack all the weakened and beaten down captains all at once in SS, but he had no prob going toe to toe with them in Fake Karakura Town (they were beaten as well, but not as much) I feel that the Hogyoku had already taken effect once he implanted it, so really I am just comparing the Captain Aizen to the sternritters and I am not taking KS away either, I just want to be realistic about it in that it is possible to counter it in various ways. So it is improper to use his fight against the captains as support that he could solo all the sternritters or most, I do believe a decent chunk of them have the advantage. See Bazz, candice, bambietta, askin, as nodt etc.
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He didn't use Hogyoku during the his fight with the captains and vizards. He was using his shinigami abilities until Urahara, Isshin, and yoruichi pushed him past them. If I remember correctly, he didn't have the full hogyoku during enter soul society, but I could be mistaken.
Honestly I'm not sure where you guys are coming up with Bazz-B, Candice, Bambietta, As Nodt, etc. could beat Shinigami Aizen. He clearly beats any of them.
But to answer the OP's question - Aizen is much stronger than the sternritter, besides Juha Bach.
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He had Hogyoku with him whole time during his battle with Shinigamis. Shinigamis never damaged him to the level, that he will need to use it to heal his wounds, but it's very possible that he used it, so that he don't get tired during a battle. So, he didn't use transformation but he did use Hogyoku.
First time he used Hogyoku (on screen) was after his fight with Yamamoto when Ichigo hit him with his GT.
1. Bazz-B is powerful enough to hold both Renji and Rukia at the same time. At least Renji is on the level of senior captain level and probably Rukia too. If Bazz-B is able to beat them both, than I can see him being stronger than Aizen, if not, than he still would be strogner than Base Aizen and probably Shikai Aizen as well.
2. Aizen is stronger than Candice that's for sure, question is: "Will he need KS for her, or will be able to take her down with his base abilities?"
3. Same as above, he is stronger than Bambietta, but he will need his KS for this. Don't forget that Aizen need to try against Shinji, Bambiette one shotted him.
4. As Nodt seems to be pretty strong, so Aizen will need at least KS to defeat him. If Rukia is senior level tier, than I can tell that he would need maybe even his bankai to beat him.
First time he used Hogyoku (on screen) was after his fight with Yamamoto when Ichigo hit him with his GT.
1. Bazz-B is powerful enough to hold both Renji and Rukia at the same time. At least Renji is on the level of senior captain level and probably Rukia too. If Bazz-B is able to beat them both, than I can see him being stronger than Aizen, if not, than he still would be strogner than Base Aizen and probably Shikai Aizen as well.
2. Aizen is stronger than Candice that's for sure, question is: "Will he need KS for her, or will be able to take her down with his base abilities?"
3. Same as above, he is stronger than Bambietta, but he will need his KS for this. Don't forget that Aizen need to try against Shinji, Bambiette one shotted him.
4. As Nodt seems to be pretty strong, so Aizen will need at least KS to defeat him. If Rukia is senior level tier, than I can tell that he would need maybe even his bankai to beat him.
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KS AIzen is strong but not that strong
If KS works fine, he solos 1 on 1. If not, most sternreiter would beat him
If KS works fine, he solos 1 on 1. If not, most sternreiter would beat him
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Bazz-B is stronger then him, the rest that you mentioned are not. Renji alone can give Shinigami Aizen a run for his money, add Rukia and they beat Shinigami Aizen. Bazz-B is seemingly beating Rukia + Renji, so he beats Shinigami Aizen. Gremmy also beats him. As does Haschwalth and Ishida. And maybe Weizol due to Haxx. And Royd can beat him as well.
He beat:
Heavily Injured and Tired Komamura
Tired Hitsugaya
Injured and tired Shikai Love
Injured and tired Shikai Rose
Injured and Tired Shikai Soi Fon
Injured and Tired Shikai Shunsui
Injured base Shinji
Shikai Lisa
The only reason this looks very impressive is because of the number of characters there are. But people tend to ignore that every single one these characters where nowhere near full power. Furthermore, Aizen's Shikai is a lot more useful against multiple opponents then it is in a 1 Vs 1.
Look at it this way. Starkk was capable of defeating healthy masked Shikai Rose and Love and give healthy Shikai Shunsui a Mid-High Diff fight. That's actually almost as impressive as what Aizen did, and yet, Starkk is at best, as strong as Old man Colonel Sanders, who is actually one of the weakest SternRitter.
I think Aizen tends to get overestimated because of that one feat alone. Yet half of the SternRitter would be capable of replicating it if they where in his position.
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Aizen was stated to be stronger than whole espada, but agains I don't find that impressive.
- Kyoraku in shikai is capable of fightining equally with strongest espada. Add bankai, and he probably beat whole espada. Bankai increase power 5-10 times. Considering that he is senior and have bankai for long, his increase will be closer to 10.
- Same with Ukitake.
- Renji is more than capable in doing so. In Shikai Renji is far far stronger than semi powered Base Mask, that form of Mask one shotted two captains. Bankai Renji would do the job.
- Mask De Masculine, with 10% of his base power is able to beat average captain (mostly espada are on this level or below), add 10 times stronger punch and Vollstandig.
- I wouldn't be surprised if Shinji, Rukia and Yoruichi can do same.
- Unohana beat them for sure.
- Urahara was stated to be equal with Aizen so he beat them as well.
- Isshin beat Aizen in 1 vs 1.
And that's not just counting Yamamoto, RG and Quincies.
- Kyoraku in shikai is capable of fightining equally with strongest espada. Add bankai, and he probably beat whole espada. Bankai increase power 5-10 times. Considering that he is senior and have bankai for long, his increase will be closer to 10.
- Same with Ukitake.
- Renji is more than capable in doing so. In Shikai Renji is far far stronger than semi powered Base Mask, that form of Mask one shotted two captains. Bankai Renji would do the job.
- Mask De Masculine, with 10% of his base power is able to beat average captain (mostly espada are on this level or below), add 10 times stronger punch and Vollstandig.
- I wouldn't be surprised if Shinji, Rukia and Yoruichi can do same.
- Unohana beat them for sure.
- Urahara was stated to be equal with Aizen so he beat them as well.
- Isshin beat Aizen in 1 vs 1.
And that's not just counting Yamamoto, RG and Quincies.
We don't know what Bazz'z burner finger 5 is yet, looking at the differences between 1,2,3, and 4, 5 is also going to be exponetially stronger, perhaps on Yamamotos level. He could probably kill most of the sternritters with that. Secondly, Aizen Bankai can also be counted in his strength and I am not including that in this fight. So he may or may not be stronger than all of them put together in shikai only (except for plot purposes)
Also to those above, just because Aizen never healed with Hogyoku, doesn't mean he wasn't using it. He could have been using it to make him stronger or to be quicker etc. Also it may have been doing that to him just passively because that is what the hogyoku does, even if Aizen didn't explicitly tell it to, it could still be giving him buffs. I personally believe there is a difference in Aizens strength level after he got the hogyoku and back when he was on sokyoku hill. And I am only talking about the one on Sokyoku hill, hence the picture. This aizen is beat by a handful of sternritters easily.