Prime Hiruzen or Tobirama
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Admitted to be the decoy knowing he was the strongest among em [Including Tobirama], which Tobirama did not deny...
Hiruzen was acknowledged by Tobirama...
Tobirama takes this unless Hiruzen has a counter for FTG [Madara was able to sense it after attaining SM from Hashirama]
Tobirama takes this although Hiruzen will give him a run for his money .
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Hiruzen was acknowledged by Tobirama...
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Tobirama takes this unless Hiruzen has a counter for FTG [Madara was able to sense it after attaining SM from Hashirama]
Tobirama takes this although Hiruzen will give him a run for his money .
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Hiruzen is a sensor he displayed so by sensing Edo hashirama and Edo tobirama while they used bringer of darkness on him and he successfully blocked each of their attacks while having his vision impaired....manga fact
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Don't use part 1 feats. When you compare them in the war arc, Tobirama had so many more feats than Hiruzen. Hiruzen didn't do anything to change the war
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Hiruzen knows all Hidden Leaf Jutsu which equals =
Hiruzen (sarutobi clan)
Fire Release: Ash Pile Burning
Fire Release: Great Flame Technique
Dead Demon Consuming Seal
Earth Release Shadow Clone
Earth Release: Double Suicide Decapitation Technique
Earth Release: Earth Dragon Bullet
Earth Release: Earth Flow River
Earth Release: Earth-Style Wall
Fire Release: Fire Dragon Bullet
Fire Release: Fire Dragon Flame Bullet
Roof Tile Shuriken
Shadow Clone Technique
Shuriken Shadow Clone Technique
Summoning Technique (Monkey King: Enma)
Telescope Technique
Hiruzen w/ Enma
Beast Human Clone
Dynamic Marking
Fang Passing Fang
Fang Rotating Fang (Manga only) - Capable of crushing stone
Fang Wolf Fang - The power is great enough to dent a Rashōmon gate
Four Legs Technique
Human Beast Combination Transformation: Double-Headed Wolf
Passing Fang
Aburame Clan
Secret Technique: Insect Gathering
Insect Clone Technique
Human Cocoon Technique
Insect Jamming Technique
Insect Jar Technique
Parasitic Destruction Insect Technique
Secret Technique: Insect Cocoon
Secret Technique: Insect Sphere
Secret Technique: Insect Tornado
Spindle Formation
Akimichi clan
Butterfly Bullet Bombing
Calorie Control
Double Human Bullet Tank
Human Bullet Tank
Multi-Size Technique
Partial Multi-Size Technique
Spiked Human Bullet Tank
Super Multi-Size Technique
Super Open Hand Slap
Nara clan
Black Spider Lily
Shadow Gathering Technique
Shadow Imitation Shuriken Technique
Shadow Imitation Technique
Shadow Sewing Technique
Shadow–Neck Binding Technique
Yamanaka Clan
Mind Body Disturbance Technique
Mind Body Switch Technique
Mind Clone Switch Technique
Mind Disturbance Dance Performance Technique (Anime only)
Mind Puppet Switch Cursed Seal Technique
Yamanaka Clan Telepathy
Uchiha Clan
Fire Release: Dragon Flame Release Song Technique
Fire Release: Great Dragon Fire Technique
Fire Release: Great Fireball Technique
Fire Release: Phoenix Sage Fire Technique
Fire Release: Phoenix Sage Flower Nail Crimson
Manipulating Windmill Triple Blades
Uchiha Flame Battle Encampment
Other Hidden Leaf Tech
Water Clone Technique
Water Release: Water Colliding Wave (Anime only)
Water Release: Water Dragon Bullet Technique
Water Release: Water Encampment Wall
Water Release: Water Trumpet
Chidori
Demonic Illusion: Hell Viewing Technique
Earth Release: Double Suicide Decapitation Technique
Earth Release: Earth-Style Wall
Earth Release: Hiding Like a Mole Technique
Earth Release: Multiple Earth-Style Wall (Anime only)
Eight Gates
Evil Sealing Method
Eye Mind Reading
Front Lotus
Lightning Beast Running Technique
Lightning Cutter
Lightning Release Shadow Clone
Lightning Transmission (Manga only)
Lion Combo
Multiple Shadow Clone Technique
One Thousand Years of Death
Rasengan
Shadow Clone Technique
Shadow Imitation Technique
Water Needle
Shadow of the Dancing Leaf
Silent Killing
Summoning: Earth Release: Tracking Fang Technique
Wind Release: Great Breakthrough
+ Neutalizer technique, Ghost Transformation, Bringer of Darkness and all 8 Gates at will.
VIZ PROOF.
"The sandaime, in particular, was a genius nicknamed the 'Professor,' and was called the strongest of all the Hokage".
the Sandaime was the strongest.
Databook 1, Page 117
The "Professor" revered as the strongest Hokage in history.
Databook 1, Page 119
"History's Strongest", "Genius", etc., there are many words that describe the Sandaime Hokage.
DB2 Pg 84
Konohamaru paragraph:
Konohamaru, descended from Sandaime, who was praised as history’s strongest Hokage.
"Hiruzen in his Prime was able to counter every Leaf Jutsu in Existance including all MS and EMS skills." DB2 Pg 84
Konohamaru paragraph:
Konohamaru, descended from Sandaime, who was praised as history’s strongest Hokage.
He who even holds the affectionate name of "Professor," being well-versed in every jutsu that exists in the village of Konohagakure
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Hiruzen knows all Hidden Leaf Jutsu which equals =
Hiruzen (sarutobi clan)
Fire Release: Ash Pile Burning
Fire Release: Great Flame Technique
Dead Demon Consuming Seal
Earth Release Shadow Clone
Earth Release: Double Suicide Decapitation Technique
Earth Release: Earth Dragon Bullet
Earth Release: Earth Flow River
Earth Release: Earth-Style Wall
Fire Release: Fire Dragon Bullet
Fire Release: Fire Dragon Flame Bullet
Roof Tile Shuriken
Shadow Clone Technique
Shuriken Shadow Clone Technique
Summoning Technique (Monkey King: Enma)
Telescope Technique
Hiruzen w/ Enma
Beast Human Clone
Dynamic Marking
Fang Passing Fang
Fang Rotating Fang (Manga only) - Capable of crushing stone
Fang Wolf Fang - The power is great enough to dent a Rashōmon gate
Four Legs Technique
Human Beast Combination Transformation: Double-Headed Wolf
Passing Fang
Aburame Clan
Secret Technique: Insect Gathering
Insect Clone Technique
Human Cocoon Technique
Insect Jamming Technique
Insect Jar Technique
Parasitic Destruction Insect Technique
Secret Technique: Insect Cocoon
Secret Technique: Insect Sphere
Secret Technique: Insect Tornado
Spindle Formation
Akimichi clan
Butterfly Bullet Bombing
Calorie Control
Double Human Bullet Tank
Human Bullet Tank
Multi-Size Technique
Partial Multi-Size Technique
Spiked Human Bullet Tank
Super Multi-Size Technique
Super Open Hand Slap
Nara clan
Black Spider Lily
Shadow Gathering Technique
Shadow Imitation Shuriken Technique
Shadow Imitation Technique
Shadow Sewing Technique
Shadow–Neck Binding Technique
Yamanaka Clan
Mind Body Disturbance Technique
Mind Body Switch Technique
Mind Clone Switch Technique
Mind Disturbance Dance Performance Technique (Anime only)
Mind Puppet Switch Cursed Seal Technique
Yamanaka Clan Telepathy
Uchiha Clan
Fire Release: Dragon Flame Release Song Technique
Fire Release: Great Dragon Fire Technique
Fire Release: Great Fireball Technique
Fire Release: Phoenix Sage Fire Technique
Fire Release: Phoenix Sage Flower Nail Crimson
Manipulating Windmill Triple Blades
Uchiha Flame Battle Encampment
Other Hidden Leaf Tech
Water Clone Technique
Water Release: Water Colliding Wave (Anime only)
Water Release: Water Dragon Bullet Technique
Water Release: Water Encampment Wall
Water Release: Water Trumpet
Chidori
Demonic Illusion: Hell Viewing Technique
Earth Release: Double Suicide Decapitation Technique
Earth Release: Earth-Style Wall
Earth Release: Hiding Like a Mole Technique
Earth Release: Multiple Earth-Style Wall (Anime only)
Eight Gates
Evil Sealing Method
Eye Mind Reading
Front Lotus
Lightning Beast Running Technique
Lightning Cutter
Lightning Release Shadow Clone
Lightning Transmission (Manga only)
Lion Combo
Multiple Shadow Clone Technique
One Thousand Years of Death
Rasengan
Shadow Clone Technique
Shadow Imitation Technique
Water Needle
Shadow of the Dancing Leaf
Silent Killing
Summoning: Earth Release: Tracking Fang Technique
Wind Release: Great Breakthrough
+ Neutalizer technique, Ghost Transformation, Bringer of Darkness and all 8 Gates at will.
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VIZ PROOF.
"The sandaime, in particular, was a genius nicknamed the 'Professor,' and was called the strongest of all the Hokage".
the Sandaime was the strongest.
Databook 1, Page 117
The "Professor" revered as the strongest Hokage in history.
Databook 1, Page 119
"History's Strongest", "Genius", etc., there are many words that describe the Sandaime Hokage.
DB2 Pg 84
Konohamaru paragraph:
Konohamaru, descended from Sandaime, who was praised as history’s strongest Hokage.
"Hiruzen in his Prime was able to counter every Leaf Jutsu in Existance including all MS and EMS skills." DB2 Pg 84
Konohamaru paragraph:
Konohamaru, descended from Sandaime, who was praised as history’s strongest Hokage.
He who even holds the affectionate name of "Professor," being well-versed in every jutsu that exists in the village of Konohagakure
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Hiruzen knows all Hidden Leaf Jutsu which equals =
Hiruzen (sarutobi clan)
Fire Release: Ash Pile Burning
Fire Release: Great Flame Technique
Dead Demon Consuming Seal
Earth Release Shadow Clone
Earth Release: Double Suicide Decapitation Technique
Earth Release: Earth Dragon Bullet
Earth Release: Earth Flow River
Earth Release: Earth-Style Wall
Fire Release: Fire Dragon Bullet
Fire Release: Fire Dragon Flame Bullet
Roof Tile Shuriken
Shadow Clone Technique
Shuriken Shadow Clone Technique
Summoning Technique (Monkey King: Enma)
Telescope Technique
Hiruzen w/ Enma
Beast Human Clone
Dynamic Marking
Fang Passing Fang
Fang Rotating Fang (Manga only) - Capable of crushing stone
Fang Wolf Fang - The power is great enough to dent a Rashōmon gate
Four Legs Technique
Human Beast Combination Transformation: Double-Headed Wolf
Passing Fang
Aburame Clan
Secret Technique: Insect Gathering
Insect Clone Technique
Human Cocoon Technique
Insect Jamming Technique
Insect Jar Technique
Parasitic Destruction Insect Technique
Secret Technique: Insect Cocoon
Secret Technique: Insect Sphere
Secret Technique: Insect Tornado
Spindle Formation
Akimichi clan
Butterfly Bullet Bombing
Calorie Control
Double Human Bullet Tank
Human Bullet Tank
Multi-Size Technique
Partial Multi-Size Technique
Spiked Human Bullet Tank
Super Multi-Size Technique
Super Open Hand Slap
Nara clan
Black Spider Lily
Shadow Gathering Technique
Shadow Imitation Shuriken Technique
Shadow Imitation Technique
Shadow Sewing Technique
Shadow–Neck Binding Technique
Yamanaka Clan
Mind Body Disturbance Technique
Mind Body Switch Technique
Mind Clone Switch Technique
Mind Disturbance Dance Performance Technique (Anime only)
Mind Puppet Switch Cursed Seal Technique
Yamanaka Clan Telepathy
Uchiha Clan
Fire Release: Dragon Flame Release Song Technique
Fire Release: Great Dragon Fire Technique
Fire Release: Great Fireball Technique
Fire Release: Phoenix Sage Fire Technique
Fire Release: Phoenix Sage Flower Nail Crimson
Manipulating Windmill Triple Blades
Uchiha Flame Battle Encampment
Other Hidden Leaf Tech
Water Clone Technique
Water Release: Water Colliding Wave (Anime only)
Water Release: Water Dragon Bullet Technique
Water Release: Water Encampment Wall
Water Release: Water Trumpet
Chidori
Demonic Illusion: Hell Viewing Technique
Earth Release: Double Suicide Decapitation Technique
Earth Release: Earth-Style Wall
Earth Release: Hiding Like a Mole Technique
Earth Release: Multiple Earth-Style Wall (Anime only)
Eight Gates
Evil Sealing Method
Eye Mind Reading
Front Lotus
Lightning Beast Running Technique
Lightning Cutter
Lightning Release Shadow Clone
Lightning Transmission (Manga only)
Lion Combo
Multiple Shadow Clone Technique
One Thousand Years of Death
Rasengan
Shadow Clone Technique
Shadow Imitation Technique
Eight Trigrams Mountain Crusher
Eight Trigrams One Hundred Twenty-Eight Palms
Eight Trigrams Palms Revolving Heaven
Eight Trigrams Sixty-Four Palms
Eight Trigrams Thirty-Two Palms
Eight Trigrams Vacuum Palm
Eight Trigrams Vacuum Wall Palm
Hyūga Main Family's Juinjutsu
Palm Bottom
Protection of the Eight Trigrams Sixty-Four Palms
Water Needle
Shadow of the Dancing Leaf
Silent Killing
Summoning: Earth Release: Tracking Fang Technique
Wind Release: Great Breakthrough
+ Neutalizer technique, Ghost Transformation, Bringer of Darkness and all 8 Gates at will.
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VIZ PROOF.
"The sandaime, in particular, was a genius nicknamed the 'Professor,' and was called the strongest of all the Hokage".
the Sandaime was the strongest.
Databook 1, Page 117
The "Professor" revered as the strongest Hokage in history.
Databook 1, Page 119
"History's Strongest", "Genius", etc., there are many words that describe the Sandaime Hokage.
DB2 Pg 84
Konohamaru paragraph:
Konohamaru, descended from Sandaime, who was praised as history’s strongest Hokage.
"Hiruzen in his Prime was able to counter every Leaf Jutsu in Existance including all MS and EMS skills." DB2 Pg 84
Konohamaru paragraph:
Konohamaru, descended from Sandaime, who was praised as history’s strongest Hokage.
He who even holds the affectionate name of "Professor," being well-versed in every jutsu that exists in the village of Konohagakure
so what did he do to help defeat Madara or Obito?
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People keep talking about his hype but you can't go on hype. Anybody can say they are the best but you're a scrub until you prove it
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Hiruzen knows all Hidden Leaf Jutsu which equals =
Hiruzen (sarutobi clan)
Fire Release: Ash Pile Burning
Fire Release: Great Flame Technique
Dead Demon Consuming Seal
Earth Release Shadow Clone
Earth Release: Double Suicide Decapitation Technique
Earth Release: Earth Dragon Bullet
Earth Release: Earth Flow River
Earth Release: Earth-Style Wall
Fire Release: Fire Dragon Bullet
Fire Release: Fire Dragon Flame Bullet
Roof Tile Shuriken
Shadow Clone Technique
Shuriken Shadow Clone Technique
Summoning Technique (Monkey King: Enma)
Telescope Technique
Hiruzen w/ Enma
Beast Human Clone
Dynamic Marking
Fang Passing Fang
Fang Rotating Fang (Manga only) - Capable of crushing stone
Fang Wolf Fang - The power is great enough to dent a Rashōmon gate
Four Legs Technique
Human Beast Combination Transformation: Double-Headed Wolf
Passing Fang
Aburame Clan
Secret Technique: Insect Gathering
Insect Clone Technique
Human Cocoon Technique
Insect Jamming Technique
Insect Jar Technique
Parasitic Destruction Insect Technique
Secret Technique: Insect Cocoon
Secret Technique: Insect Sphere
Secret Technique: Insect Tornado
Spindle Formation
Akimichi clan
Butterfly Bullet Bombing
Calorie Control
Double Human Bullet Tank
Human Bullet Tank
Multi-Size Technique
Partial Multi-Size Technique
Spiked Human Bullet Tank
Super Multi-Size Technique
Super Open Hand Slap
Nara clan
Black Spider Lily
Shadow Gathering Technique
Shadow Imitation Shuriken Technique
Shadow Imitation Technique
Shadow Sewing Technique
Shadow–Neck Binding Technique
Yamanaka Clan
Mind Body Disturbance Technique
Mind Body Switch Technique
Mind Clone Switch Technique
Mind Disturbance Dance Performance Technique (Anime only)
Mind Puppet Switch Cursed Seal Technique
Yamanaka Clan Telepathy
Uchiha Clan
Fire Release: Dragon Flame Release Song Technique
Fire Release: Great Dragon Fire Technique
Fire Release: Great Fireball Technique
Fire Release: Phoenix Sage Fire Technique
Fire Release: Phoenix Sage Flower Nail Crimson
Manipulating Windmill Triple Blades
Uchiha Flame Battle Encampment
Other Hidden Leaf Tech
Water Clone Technique
Water Release: Water Colliding Wave (Anime only)
Water Release: Water Dragon Bullet Technique
Water Release: Water Encampment Wall
Water Release: Water Trumpet
Chidori
Demonic Illusion: Hell Viewing Technique
Earth Release: Double Suicide Decapitation Technique
Earth Release: Earth-Style Wall
Earth Release: Hiding Like a Mole Technique
Earth Release: Multiple Earth-Style Wall (Anime only)
Eight Gates
Evil Sealing Method
Eye Mind Reading
Front Lotus
Lightning Beast Running Technique
Lightning Cutter
Lightning Release Shadow Clone
Lightning Transmission (Manga only)
Lion Combo
Multiple Shadow Clone Technique
One Thousand Years of Death
Rasengan
Shadow Clone Technique
Shadow Imitation Technique
Eight Trigrams Mountain Crusher
Eight Trigrams One Hundred Twenty-Eight Palms
Eight Trigrams Palms Revolving Heaven
Eight Trigrams Sixty-Four Palms
Eight Trigrams Thirty-Two Palms
Eight Trigrams Vacuum Palm
Eight Trigrams Vacuum Wall Palm
Hyūga Main Family's Juinjutsu
Palm Bottom
Protection of the Eight Trigrams Sixty-Four Palms
Water Needle
Shadow of the Dancing Leaf
Silent Killing
Summoning: Earth Release: Tracking Fang Technique
Wind Release: Great Breakthrough
+ Neutalizer technique, Ghost Transformation, Bringer of Darkness and all 8 Gates at will.
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VIZ PROOF.
"The sandaime, in particular, was a genius nicknamed the 'Professor,' and was called the strongest of all the Hokage".
the Sandaime was the strongest.
Databook 1, Page 117
The "Professor" revered as the strongest Hokage in history.
Databook 1, Page 119
"History's Strongest", "Genius", etc., there are many words that describe the Sandaime Hokage.
DB2 Pg 84
Konohamaru paragraph:
Konohamaru, descended from Sandaime, who was praised as history’s strongest Hokage.
"Hiruzen in his Prime was able to counter every Leaf Jutsu in Existance including all MS and EMS skills." DB2 Pg 84
Konohamaru paragraph:
Konohamaru, descended from Sandaime, who was praised as history’s strongest Hokage.
He who even holds the affectionate name of "Professor," being well-versed in every jutsu that exists in the village of Konohagakure
I hope you know that he can't use kekkai genkai's from other clans, so that cuts down more than half of those moves.