Base Itachi vs 3T Sasuke

[Bronze]

Lol this is nooo intel??? Making things worse.

Sasuke won't be able to differentiate between clones at all. The sharingan doesn't give him such ability.

And how do the clones make significant change in the battle? He had dealt with his Bunshins before. Not to mention Itachi uses them for Genjutsu purposes. It's not something he can spam.​

 

[Haizaki]

And how do the clones make significant change in the battle? He had dealt with his Bunshins before. Not to mention Itachi uses them for Genjutsu purposes. It's not something he can spam.​

Like I said in my first post...Itachi can come up with that strategy against Sasuke. No one said he could spam it...Using it for a genjutsu purpose means that's what it's only used for?

Your reason for Sasuke winning is based on the fact that a sick Itachi needed MS to win despite you misinterpreting it.

 

[Bronze]

Like I said in my first post...Itachi can come up with that strategy against Sasuke. No one said he could spam it...Using it for a genjutsu purpose means that's what it's only used for?

Your reason for Sasuke winning is based on the fact that a sick Itachi needed MS to win despite you misinterpreting it.

Instead of saying ''Itachi can come up with that strategy against Sasuke'', you can tell us that strategy.

Show me your factual interpretations...​

 

[Haizaki]

Instead of saying ''Itachi can come up with that strategy against Sasuke'', you can tell us that strategy.​

Did you read? Read that again next time before posting. I already said it in my first post and I told you in my previous post to look at it.

"Itachi can create an exploding clone, summon his crows and have it block Sasuke's vision

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and then since Sasuke can't differentiate between a clone and the real, this would be problematic for him as we saw how Itachi appeared right in front of Sasuke much to his surprise. Matter of fact Itachi can use this to confuse Sasuke and he won't know whether it's a clone or the real one. Given the exploding clone an opening."

Show me your factual interpretations...

Itachi says "As long as I have the MS, you can't defeat me" now means: Itachi can't win without the MS?

Having the MS means it's a sure win for him. Not having it mean it could go either way. That's why he said "As long as I have it" That's why he says

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" I have the MS here..You don't stand a chance"

Not to mention this was how Itachi fought Sasuke...Look at his vision of Sasuke

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[Bronze]

Did you read? Read that again next time before posting. I already said it in my first post and I told you in my previous post to look at it.

"Itachi can create an exploding clone, summon his crows and have it block Sasuke's vision

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and then since Sasuke can't differentiate between a clone and the real, this would be problematic for him as we saw how Itachi appeared right in front of Sasuke much to his surprise. Matter of fact Itachi can use this to confuse Sasuke and he won't know whether it's a clone or the real one. Given the exploding clone an opening."



Itachi says "As long as I have the MS, you can't defeat me" now means: Itachi can't win without the MS?

Having the MS means it's a sure win for him. Not having it mean it could go either way. That's why he said "As long as I have it" That's why he says

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" I have the MS here..You don't stand a chance"

Not to mention this was how Itachi fought Sasuke...Look at his vision of Sasuke

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1). Clone explosion that tanked by Kakashi doesn't do anything to someone, who tanked explosions from Deidara and possess Curse Seal's benefits. Creating a dust of cloud to block Sasuke's vision also blocks Itachi's vision doesn't work on Sharingan. [

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] Strategy fails.

2). Read the translations before bringing them. The context remains the same: Itachi speaks about the strength difference between him and Sasuke, and states that Mangekyou Sharingan is that difference.​

 

[Oblivionx]

sasuke takes it mid diff.... 3 tomoe itachi would give a better fight... and fight can go either way...

 

[Haizaki]

1). Clone explosion that tanked by Kakashi doesn't do anything to someone, who tanked explosions from Deidara and possess Curse Seal's benefits.​

Kakashi never tanked it..Never. He went underwater with Kurenai. That's not tanking. Sure Sasuke has the cursed seal but the only time he tanked an explosion was when he used his wings and he lost it. At least that was the only one he tanked that I remember..There's no other one.

Creating a dust of cloud to block Sasuke's vision also blocks Itachi's vision doesn't work on Sharingan. [

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] Strategy fails.

A dust of cloud? Lol where did you get that from. I said crows and no it won't block Itachi's vision as he moved and kicked Sasuke when he did this

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2). Read the translations before bringing them. The context remains the same: Itachi speaks about the strength difference between him and Sasuke, and states that Mangekyou Sharingan is that difference.

Itachi's stronger and MS is the difference between their strength according to you right? Ok. So now tell me what's the probability of them not being equal without that difference? Tell me how this mean it's sure "Low DIff" win for Sasuke according to you. I just want to stop this.

 

[Bronze]

Kakashi never tanked it..Never. He went underwater with Kurenai. That's not tanking. Sure Sasuke has the cursed seal but the only time he tanked an explosion was when he used his wings and he lost it. At least that was the only one he tanked that I remember..There's no other one.

He did, though. [

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] Because Itachi's fodder explosions are comparable to Deidara's explosions?

A dust of cloud? where did you get that from. I said crows and no it won't block Itachi's vision as he moved and kicked Sasuke when he did this

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Explosions create dust of cloud. You said Itachi will use Clone Explosion, thus a result of dust cloud will be created.

Itachi's stronger and MS is the difference between their strength according to you right? Ok. So now tell me what's the probability of them not being equal without that difference? Tell me how this mean it's sure "Low DIff" win for Sasuke according to you. I just want to stop this.

Overpowered his Katon, broke Tsukuyomi, rendered Amatersu useless, and destroyed V2 Susanoo - feats that Sasuke accomplished through 3T. That is the difference in strength between them without MS.

 

[Haizaki]

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] Because Itachi's fodder explosions are comparable to Deidara's explosions?

He didn't.

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He's in water and he pulls Kurenai down.

They aren't comparable but the explosion would at least put him down if he doesn't resort to his wings since he has no intel.

Explosions create dust of cloud. You said Itachi will use Clone Explosion, thus a result of dust cloud will be created.

How does this in anyway stop Itachi. The only thing blocking Sasuke's vision are the crows...The explosion won't stop Itachi when he knows Sasuke's position.

Overpowered his Katon, broke Tsukuyomi, rendered Amatersu useless, and destroyed V2 Susanoo - feats that Sasuke accomplished through 3T. That is the difference in strength between them without MS.

A sick Itachi near death with that horrible vision..Please remember this Lol.

 

[Bronze]

He didn't.

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He's in water and he pulls Kurenai down.

They aren't comparable but the explosion would at least put him down if he doesn't resort to his wings since he has no intel.

See that he's actually coming out of the water, and not going in?

How does this in anyway stop Itachi. The only thing blocking Sasuke's vision are the crows...The explosion won't stop Itachi when he knows Sasuke's position.

He's not going to know where Sasuke's position is, if the dust is blocking his vision. Not to mention Sasuke can jump high.

A sick Itachi near death with that horrible vision..Please remember this .

Sickness doesn't lower the quality of his Jutsu. Quality doesn't make him go easy on Sasuke. Clarify that to the OP, because the match-up is based on the manga.

 

[RustledJimmies]

Lol at Itachi's explosive clones being a factor in this match-up when Sasuke tanked Deidara's guided missile bomb.

Itachi isn't winning this, Sasuke has enough duraility to tank any and every single one of Itachi's techniques in base, he has superior ninjutsu and reserves, and he has enough speed and reactions to keep up with Itachi. Not to mention that I still failed to see in any of these arguments how Itachi puts him down for good.

 

[Haizaki]

See that he's actually coming out of the water, and not going in?

Oh boy, He came out to take kurenai down. That's why his legs are shown out.

He's not going to know where Sasuke's position is, if the dust is blocking his vision. Not to mention Sasuke can jump high.

Lol Non sharingan users like Onoki and Ay could tell Madara and MU's position in the mist because they knew their position.

So? He's going to jump high straight after the explosion?..Tanking it doesn't mean it wouldn't put him down at the very least unless he resorts to his wings which I fully well doubt since the OP says no intel...Meaning he won't even know about the exploding clone. Deidara noted Sasuke was guarding himself with his wings.

Sickness doesn't lower the quality of his Jutsu. Quality doesn't make him go easy on Sasuke. Clarify that to the OP, because the match-up is based on the manga.

Lol......you can't be serious. They both used the same jutsu which was initially equal

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after a while, Sasuke started overpowering him. Definitely Itachi's sickness and stamina had to do with this

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Sure you'll be right if this was sick Itachi.

 

[Rιver]

That was inside Genjutsu, specifically Tsukuyomi, which is restricted here, so its not applicable. Itachi can't blitz Sasuke, and they can both react to each other's attacks, so speed isn't an issue. Sasuke has CM2 to tank any of Itachi's Katon, and he already canonically overpowered Itachi's Fireball Jutsu with his own. So Sasuke has superior Ninjutsu. I don't see how he loses this.

Pretty sure Sasuke couldn't react to Itachi at times, and CM2 is restricted here. And I'm fairly certain that Itachi has Suiton to counter Katon.​

 

[ChocolateVanilla]

Lol at Itachi's explosive clones being a factor in this match-up when Sasuke tanked Deidara's guided missile bomb.

Itachi isn't winning this, Sasuke has enough duraility to tank any and every single one of Itachi's techniques in base, he has superior ninjutsu and reserves, and he has enough speed and reactions to keep up with Itachi. Not to mention that I still failed to see in any of these arguments how Itachi puts him down for good.

Note: CM2 is restricted, so any of those feats where Sasuke tanked a bomb are out the window

An explosive clone followed by a Shunshin/Kunai stab combo is enough to end Sasuke. The Sharingan is unable to diffrentiate between clones and when Sasuke defeats the clone, he'll:

A) Die
B) Be incapacitated
C) Suffer injuries and be disoriented by the explosion



Sasuke's reserves are by no means superior to Itachi's. In their fight, Sasuke canonically ran out of Chakra before Itachi, who happened to use 3 extremely chakra taxing MS techniques before Sasuke ran out. Add this to the fact that Itachi had his Sharingan activated in that fight and that Sasuke was using power from his CM2. At the very least, they're dead equals.

 

[Sakura x Ino]

We don't know for sure that Itachi was going 100% in that fight, not to mention he was pretty sick.
When he wasn't sick and 100% as Edo, he could hold his own in a Taijutsu fight against KCM Naruto, whom could stomp Hebi Sasuke with ease!
I think Itachi takes this

 

[Rιver]

Is this also Itachi with Sharingan, or him in pure base? Because Itachi's fighting style revolves in Sharingan, without it, he's the same as Hashirama without Mokuton.​

 

[ChocolateVanilla]

Is this also Itachi with Sharingan, or him in pure base? Because Itachi's fighting style revolves in Sharingan, without it, he's the same as Hashirama without Mokuton.​

Itachi has no Sharingan in this match, but I fail to see how it affects him other than that he can't cast higher level Genjutsu and his precognition is taken away. I felt that his 3T would be too much for Sasuke.

 

[Rιver]

Itachi has no Sharingan in this match, but I fail to see how it affects him other than that he can't cast higher level Genjutsu and his precognition is taken away. I felt that his 3T would be too much for Sasuke.

Sasuke wins moderate difficulty then. His Sharingan plays a big part.​

 

[Killua Zoldyck]

Have people forgotten Susanoo can be used in base (Madara used it blind)? That should be a restriction.

 

[Eternal Sage]

Itachi wins if this is healthy and he's trying to kill Lol