Sandaime Raikage[EjBlack] vs. Jinchuriki Gaara[DrProof]

Killua Zoldyck

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The Bridge isn't Iron bro, I don't believe so. In the Battle with Danzo, and Gaara it looked rocky, as if it was solid stone. Also I don't recall there being water under the bridge. Link please?

Actually, you might be right, its not Iron (I assumed it was because of where it was situated, my mistake), however. It would still take much longer then it did against Kimmimaro, because of how dense the stone would be. While Gaara can make holes in the ground with ease, and start breaking down minerals inside, its not that simple on the stone bridge, which was able to tank the majority of a Susanoo Arrow.

Remember, Kakashi came after his fight with Sasuke and they went under the bridge, where there was water? If you don't I will link you the page where to start reading.
 

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Actually, you might be right, its not Iron (I assumed it was because of where it was situated, my mistake), however. It would still take much longer then it did against Kimmimaro, because of how dense the stone would be. While Gaara can make holes in the ground with ease, and start breaking down minerals inside, its not that simple on the stone bridge, which was able to tank the majority of a Susanoo Arrow.

Remember, Kakashi came after his fight with Sasuke and they went under the bridge, where there was water? If you don't I will link you the page where to start reading.

I believe you bro. (Water part).

Also, Idk I believe Stone would be easier to crush up, to make sand due to Diamond, as well Iron being in the natural ground (I believe, don't feel like googling this shit right now lol). Gaara already was shown to turn the normal ground in which harbored hardened minerals such as; Iron, Diamond (possibly) etc. into Sand rather quickly, so doing it to stone would be no trouble.
 

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I believe you bro. (Water part).

Also, Idk I believe Stone would be easier to crush up, to make sand due to Diamond, as well Iron being in the natural ground (I believe, don't feel like googling this shit right now lol). Gaara already was shown to turn the normal ground in which harbored hardened minerals such as; Iron, Diamond (possibly) etc. into Sand rather quickly, so doing it to stone would be no trouble.

The problem does not nessesarily lie in breaking down. The problem lies in breaching the stone in order to get sand. Even a strong piercing attack like Susanoo Arrow just barely managed to breach it. Gaara's sand does not harbour blunt force damage nor piercing damage. Its pretty hard to crush a solid surface.
 

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Honestly this was one of the worst debates i've ever read through it seems as if both sides said f*ck it im tired.
 

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Ej would destroy you in a debate. v.v
That's not the point, he's saying this had far more potential but it was wasted on whether or not Gaara can use a certain technique and you both got tired of trying to make your point.

I don't go in like EJ or you, especially considering ive only had mobile to work with for the past 7-9 months, but damn this was just awful.
 

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That's not the point, he's saying this had far more potential but it was wasted on whether or not Gaara can use a certain technique and you both got tired of trying to make your point.

I don't go in like you EJ or you, especially considering ive only had mobile to work with for the past 7 months, but damn this was just awful.

I do agree this wasn't our best debate. If you've seen me debate before you know this is by far the worst I've done. But that OP was strong so eh.
 

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I do agree this wasn't our best debate. If you've seen me debate before you know this is by far the worst I've done. But that OP was strong so eh.

Yeah bro, I've definitely seen you debate. This was by far and wide, the worst I've seen from the both of you, no question. I did like your OP though, pretty good shit I won't lie.
 

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Yeah bro, I've definitely seen you debate. This was by far and wide, the worst I've seen from the both of you, no question. I did like your OP though, pretty good shit I won't lie.

Put my heart, and soul into that OP lmfao. But yeah man if we both just stopped arguing about rather or not Gaara could multiply his Sand Clones, it would have been a more interesting debate. EJ's blown people out the water in Debates.
 

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Ej would destroy you in a debate. v.v
Slap yourself.
They both neg-diff you.
Im willing to debate with either of them anytime honestly. Also quit nut hugging fodder.
You aren't wrong.
I would honestly want you to try and prove this claim.
That's not the point, he's saying this had far more potential but it was wasted on whether or not Gaara can use a certain technique and you both got tired of trying to make your point.

I don't go in like EJ or you, especially considering ive only had mobile to work with for the past 7-9 months, but damn this was just awful.

This. Also if they feel some type of way i wouldn't mind debating with them.

@DrProof you get mad when i said this was a weak debate then you state it yourself that this was your worst debate smh.
 

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Slap yourself.

Im willing to debate with either of them anytime honestly. Also quit nut hugging fodder.

I would honestly want you to try and prove this claim.


This. Also if they feel some type of way i wouldn't mind debating with them.

Debate me. I'll use the same character as I've shown here.

Edit: Because 2014 members spout random shit. Didn't know if you were trying to act like you were better than us, or just being honest.
 
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Debate me. I'll use the same character as I've shown here.

Edit: Because 2014 members spout random shit. Didn't know if you were trying to act like you were better than us, or just being honest.
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EMS Sasuke with no Ps blades vs Jin Gaara?
 

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EMS Sasuke with no Ps blades vs Jin Gaara?

Does EMS Sasuke even have Perfect Susano'o? Link me that Susano'o. And yeah I agree to doing this match-up.
 

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Sorry, when I said lot of points I meant a couple main points but those points have subcategories to them. They are that:

1: Raikage has the elemental advantage
2: 1FN can kill Gaara without him being in arms reach of him
3: Raikage can outlast him

These points have a few subcategories to them though I can go in detail if you want when i get back from hitting these weights at the gym.

1.There is no elemental advantage as sand was never stated to = Doton.
2.Why would I go and make a claim like that to what I have no idea where the manga even supports this. Even then I already showed and adress that 5 fingers can destroy sand therefore any variant can kill gaara. So you needing me to make this "claim" shows no relevance to valuate the judgement.
3.Except that was in my introduction

So you definitely need to reevaluate.
 
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This is what happens when you use a character whose feats are put into pretty much one chapter. EjBlack should have used someone with more feats, for this to be a more interesting debate.
 

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This is what happens when you use a character whose feats are put into pretty much one chapter. EjBlack should have used someone with more feats, for this to be a more interesting debate.

Exaggerating, but even then 3rd Raikage has all the feats, reasoning, and common sense to show that he can compete with or make a case with defeating him. So lack of screen time doesn't matter
 
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