[Discussion] Why senjutsu of 6 paths >>> Rinnegan

[KCMNaruto]

Kaguya is a Byakugan user, Juubi lol and Madara was first to awaken Rinnegan in both eyes and he only awakened third eye when he intiated his moon eye plan so really all those examples r not that good to compare to since Madara never had just "one sharinnegan" or rinnegan for that matter to compare to Sasuke and until the time comes when Sasuke shows more then CT and the 2 techniques related to that then he's limited to 3.

ok, I will remember this thread and bump it when I will be right so stay on your guard lol

 

[NaruSasuRival]

Sasuske hypothetically can possess all rinnegan techniques. Kaguya's sharingan has yet to be proven that it was superior than his. As far I'm concerned his rinnegan and her rinnegan are identical. The problem is that Kaguya did not use any rinnegan abilities so we can't actually compare. If she had done, she would have been more powerful but I don't think that it would be because of a better rinnegan but rather because of overwhelming chakra.

Again you bring up this argument of not being able to use efficiently abilities that you've never seen before yet you carefully chose to completely disregard for a second time my examples of Obito and Madara who did the exact same thing as Jins.

As you said, that he's used to the rinnegan itself so this is opened to discussion as for its meanings. It might mean that he got a better understanding overall and so that may be able to use to its full potential. You say that Naruto obviously knows the rinnegan techniques including Sasuke's swapping and Madara's limbo yet what makes you believe that Sasuke doesn't have even more new rinnegan techniques? After all, if Sasuke's rinnegan is indeed superior to Madara's and I say just if, then it would make sense for him to have access to even more rinnegan techniques.

As for Kaguya's fight I will agree. I do believe though that he has many aces up to his sleeve that he didn't use in that fight for the sake of fighting Naruto. I don't say that it was a clever idea, rather a risky one but still it does make kind of sense, up to a point considering his recent obsession with killing Naruto.

As for the "only one rinnegan", well we stil have to learn more about it, don't count it out, after all, one thing is for sure, and in that we can agree both, Kishimoto didn't give Sasuke a rinnegan which identical to Kaguya's for no reason. We also don't know how fast he can adapt to it, after all, he was called a genius for his fast learning.

What I'm saying is just don't be so certain about everything, it's better to look at things with more open-mind.

Why continue arguing based on hypothesis, then elaborate as if the facts were actual?

 

[Byron123]

Why continue arguing based on hypothesis, then elaborate as if the facts were actual?

Lol so from my whole post you just chose one line to base a question while completely ignoring the rest? Ok lol. Besides, it's not like I theorised the impossible, on the contrary, it's the msot logical thing to have all of the six paths abilities since he now has the rinnegan but whatever.

 

[NaruSasuRival]

Lol so from my whole post you just chose one line to base a question while completely ignoring the rest? Ok lol. Besides, it's not like I theorised the impossible, on the contrary, it's the msot logical thing to have all of the six paths abilities since he now has the rinnegan but whatever.

I did not ignore your argument. Rather, I am saying we don't have to argue on such argument per their nature. This is pretty much a speculation from you that Sasuke is used to all Rinnegan abilities, which I disagree with because in my opinion, you cannot be used to something you have never used nor seen.

Now, that the Rinnegan gives total knowledge of all its jutsus to the person who possess it is to be seen, and we will wait till Sasuke start to use Shinra tensei, human path, animal path etc. I won't be surprised though, except I doubt he can because he got different Rinnegan from Hagoromo's and also he got only one eye. So far, we have seen all the people who add only one Rinnegan have not used the paths.

 

[Byron123]

I did not ignore your argument. Rather, I am saying we don't have to argue on such argument per their nature. This is pretty much a speculation from you that Sasuke is used to all Rinnegan abilities, which I disagree with because in my opinion, you cannot be used to something you have never used nor seen.

Now, that the Rinnegan gives total knowledge of all its jutsus to the person who possess it is to be seen, and we will wait till Sasuke start to use Shinra tensei, human path, animal path etc. I won't be surprised though, except I doubt he can because he got different Rinnegan from Hagoromo's and also he got only one eye. So far, we have seen all the people who add only one Rinnegan have not used the paths.

How many times do you need me to point you out Obito's and Madara's cases as Jins?

 

[King Of Pop]

madara couldnt access chibaku tensei with his one rinnegan hence he needed to get his 2nd to use its full power whereas sasuke has used it despite having only one, it means Tomoed rinnegan is a different case to the normal one so sasuke doesnt need another to access the other paths. not to mention he cant awaken another tomoed rinnegan as its only comes in one as shown with juubi and kaguya, he already says he gotten used to the abilities of the rinnegan and hes shown ct so logic dictates he has the others

as for you op, madara despite having the rikudous senjutsu was getting his ass kicked by sasuke(rinnegan), hence to compete with him and naruto he fled to get what? thats right his other rinnegan so he could compete and when he got that we all saw how op he was with his island sized CTs and 4 limbos. so you see a guy with so called rikudous senjutsu still felt the need to get his other rinnegan to access its full power because of how op the rinnegan is.

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obito hypes him up as unbeatable once he gets both rinnegans and is able to access its full power, he didnt say shit about his senjutsu or anything.

like someone said it all depends on the user, naruto fighting against the rinnegan in the past is irrelevant as sasuke>>>>>pain, nagato, obito. sasuke has rikudous chakra and unlike madara with one eye, he can acess the rinnegans full power with his tomoed rinnegan hence his jutsus would be much stronger. rinnegans full power boosted with rikudous chakra is something we are still yet to see completely(madara got trolled) and sasuke can display that. everything depends on the user

 

[UzumakiRyu]

All just theories like I said before until the time Sasuke uses the techniques other then the two associated with Chibaku Tensei then he is limited to those 3 and doesn't have access to all six

 

[King Of Pop]

All just theories like I said before until the time Sasuke uses the techniques other then the two associated with Chibaku Tensei then he is limited to those 3 and doesn't have access to all six

he is not limited to three, thats stupid. do you even know what limited is? you can say you dont beleive he has them but dont say hes limited to 3, once you can access the rinnegans full power then most likely you have acess to all paths.

 

[UzumakiRyu]

he is not limited to three, thats stupid. do you even know what limited is? you can say you dont beleive he has them but dont say hes limited to 3, once you can access the rinnegans full power then most likely you have acess to all paths.

Okay he isn't "limited" but he is shall I say until seen otherwise by a Viz scan can use Chibaku Tensei and probably the other two techniques associated with said technique but like I said and I will repeat it the time comes when we see him through official scans of him using the others he doesn't have them okay? and saying otherwise is just borderline fanfiction writing

 

[flyboyissac]

I agree 99% but you forgot sharingan can follow almost and speed.
And Sasuke has both active at same time and obito couldn't use 1 rinnegan at full power since hes and kamui

 

[NaruSasuRival]

How many times do you need me to point you out Obito's and Madara's cases as Jins?

You are ignoring that Obito and Madara knew all Rikudo's Jutsus. madara knew all Rinnegan Jutsus and he taught all these Jutsus to Obito in the cave before he died. Some people even speculated that Obito was the one who taught Nagato the six path techniques, though I disagree with it. Your point is not valid because Obito and madara knew all the forbidden Jutsus of the Uchiha as well as Rikudo's forbidden Jutsu.

Now, if you will read Obito's flashback again, you will see what I am talking about.

madara couldnt access chibaku tensei with his one rinnegan hence he needed to get his 2nd to use its full power whereas sasuke has used it despite having only one, it means Tomoed rinnegan is a different case to the normal one so sasuke doesnt need another to access the other paths. not to mention he cant awaken another tomoed rinnegan as its only comes in one as shown with juubi and kaguya, he already says he gotten used to the abilities of the rinnegan and hes shown ct so logic dictates he has the others

as for you op, madara despite having the rikudous senjutsu was getting his ass kicked by sasuke(rinnegan), hence to compete with him and naruto he fled to get what? thats right his other rinnegan so he could compete and when he got that we all saw how op he was with his island sized CTs and 4 limbos. so you see a guy with so called rikudous senjutsu still felt the need to get his other rinnegan to access its full power because of how op the rinnegan is.

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obito hypes him up as unbeatable once he gets both rinnegans and is able to access its full power, he didnt say shit about his senjutsu or anything.

like someone said it all depends on the user, naruto fighting against the rinnegan in the past is irrelevant as sasuke>>>>>pain, nagato, obito. sasuke has rikudous chakra and unlike madara with one eye, he can acess the rinnegans full power with his tomoed rinnegan hence his jutsus would be much stronger. rinnegans full power boosted with rikudous chakra is something we are still yet to see completely(madara got trolled) and sasuke can display that. everything depends on the user

First, Madara did not run away from Naruto and Sasuke to get his second Rinnegan in order to fight them. You are wrong in thinking that. Madara needed his second Rinnegan in order to open the third eye and achieve his goal.

You don't even realize that after being cut in two, Madara grew his lower body back. This means Madara did not even need Rinnegan to fight the two of them. Especially, Sasuke was the most hopeless in that fight because he had nothing to damage Madara seeing as madara could heal from every one of his attacks. See, unlike Obito, Madara wanted his plan to work and he did.

Finally, you don't realize that Madara produced his own Chubaku tensei cores.

 

[Djokovic]

Doesnt matter Madara has everything.