[Theory] Sasuke intends to kill Naruto and Kurama, let Oro take his body. Why the TB are dead

[narutoblitz]

This latest episode of the anime seems to make it clear -- Sasuke has some sort of grudge against Naruto personally. Even I, a Lawd Sasuke fan, didn't want to acknowledge this. But I thought about it -- and it sort of makes sense. Itachi chose Naruto over his own blood brother, in a sense. Naruto's existence disrupted the village, and it's his fault in a sense that the slaughter of the Uchiha clan happened -- since that's what drew Obito to the village. Naruto's father is sort of responsible for what happened in that regard.

But I think it's deeper than that. Sasuke actually intends to kill Naruto to confirm his own intentions -- he wishes to shove off his humanity. He'll let Orochimaru take his body, because Sasuke wants to become immortal and change the world. He seems to think that Orochimaru can actually help this.

Point #2, Sasuke doesn't just intend to kill the Go-kage. They're just the ultimate representation of the ninja system, mere figureheads. Sasuke's beef is with the ninjutsu system itself. With the S06P. With the world he created. Madara wanted to become God. Sasuke wants to kill God That much seems clear now.

Sasuke will have the power to do this because Orochimaru is helping him, and Oro is probably not human. Orochimaru might actually be Hamura, if we think about it. Nothing really explains how Orochimaru has been able to survive this long, perhaps he is also a transmigrant.

Long story short, I think Oro's out for revenge against the Sage. He had no interest in the war -- his interest is in taking his power back from Hagoromo, the brother that berayed him. So some final predictions:

-Sasuke will lose his body to Orochimaru
-Sasuke-maru will eat the fruit, and then start absolutely dominating Nardo on all fronts.
-Kakashi dies. He doesnt' get resurrected.
-Kurama will be sealed, Tsunade might die, but the former will be resurrected by Naruto
-Sasuke might actually pull off killing some of the Go-kage, and he may actually beat Naruto in the final fight
-Naruto is going to lose someone else important to him before the war ends, as Kishi stated back in 2012.
-Kakashi cannot stop them this time. Sakura lives, but Kakashi might die.

-The Sage of the Six Paths will die, and ninjutsu will be erased from the Narutoverse
-In the end Naruto will win with some PNJ. But he'll sacrifice forever the ability to perform ninjutsu. Naruto will never become Hokage.
-Sasuke will choose to die in the end to atone for what he did. Also, Sasuke has implied he believes there is nothing left for him in this world.

 

[Angelic.]

you write the weirdest things

 

[new sage of 6 paths]

this guy is stupid.

 

[narutoblitz]

Let's look at their battle history....


Roof Fight - Draw, but Sasuke intended to kill or maim Naruto
Start of part #2: Nardo & Yamato & Sakura are easily outclassed by Sasuke
Post-Danzo fight: A fully charged SM Nardo fights evenly with a heavily wounded, drained and nearly blind Sasuke
Valley of the End -- Sasuke wins, albeit barely
OAV #6 -- It's implied Naruto lost, as he's laying there bloodied being held by Sakura in the credits
Movie Fights - Naruto is unable to catch up with Sasuke before he flees

I think Sasuke has been stronger than Naruto this entire time. It's also implied Indra was stronger than Asura. I think Sasuke may stand a greater chance of a fair victory. Nardo himself also stated that MS Sasuke was stronger than him at the time they fought. He said he could not stop Sasuke alone.

 

[Draw]

Sorry but Orochimaru isn't stealing Naruto or Sasuke's body. Sealing Sasuke is the same as killing him, Naruto wants Sasuke to live and be his friend

 

[narutoblitz]

Read my last thread. Naruto is weaker than Sasuke. There is no instance in the series where Nardo has won over Sasuke. Even when he had help.

 

[ANiMUS]

You know what this thread just taught me an important lesson.

Spoiler

Drugs are bad.

 

[narutoblitz]

Yeah yeah hurr hurr NB is Naruto fanboys. I realize that, but manga facts are Nardo himself said Sasuke is stronger than him. Manga fact #2 is Sasuke has always defeated Nardo or tied in their past fights, Naruto has never defeated Sasuke.

 

[Wolfus]

That's gotta be some crazy sh*t you're smoking right there, bro.

 

[Wolfus]

Yeah yeah hurr hurr NB is Naruto fanboys. I realize that, but manga facts are Nardo himself said Sasuke is stronger than him. Manga fact #2 is Sasuke has always defeated Nardo or tied in their past fights, Naruto has never defeated Sasuke.

Bold- What? I reinforce my statement of whatever you're smoking. Ever since their most recent powerup, in fact, after naruto got KCM, no such thing as "sasuke is stronger than me" was ever said. Stop using these drugs, bro. Or stop posting.

 

[Gerkak]

Your threads are quite amusing.

 

[narutoblitz]

We haven't exactly seen Naruto use BM lately. I think it's more likely that the Sage took back his power. Notice how their hand seals disappeared? But Sasuke still has his Shar-Rinnegan. Right now, the advantage is probably with Sasuke.

I'm not entirely sure that Naruto has a counter to PS, CT, Amaterasu or a lot of the other jutsu Sasuke has. Naruto has Rasengan and Rasen-shuriken. Maybe one hidden tech. Also shadow clones. The advantage is clearly with Sasuke right now.

NB has absolutely no logical counter-argument other than:

1) HURR MAIN CHARACTER. But Naruto has been the main character since Chapter #1, and he's lost plenty of fights since then. Shonen characters die and lose fights all the time, including main protagonists

2) Sasuke has never been defeated by Nardo in the past 3) Sasuke intends to kill Nardo, Nardo doesn't intend to kill Sasuke, that's a clear advantage for Sauce.

3) Nardo lost his Sage powerups. Sasuke kept Shar-Rinnegan. Also Sasuke may even have DSM from Kabuto. The advantage is clearly Sasuke's right now. Naruto was 100% unable to stop Sasuke from sealing the TB

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Sorry NBers, this is reality. Naruto himself admits he's weaker than Sasuke. He's always lost to Sasuke. He just lost his Sage power ups, Sasuke still has Shar-Rinnegan. TBs just got owned. Again, this is manga cannon.

 

[Angelic.]

your talking to yourself bro

naruto still has his power.. sasuke dont have dsm lolollll

 

[narutoblitz]

As Sasuke himself said, it doesn't matter what others think. Naruto has never defeated him. He has defeated Nardo plenty. Nardo usually wins win his friends help. At least this time, they arent there to help. Ashura had an entire army to take on Indra. Keep that in mind, and in the end Ashura also died. Nardo cannot beat Sasuke alone, and again even he's said as much himself.

 

[NaruSasuRival]

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[narutoblitz]

Same deal with Sasuke. He's always been equal to or stronger than Nardo for the entire series. Base is filled with haters, but the fact is Nardo was toast without Itachi's help vs. Nagato. And without his father's chakra he'd have lost to Nagato the first time. Nardo alone got owned by pre-Juubi Obito. Nardo alone got owned by Madara, same as Sasuke. Nardo alone was no match for Kabuto or Itachi either.

Fact is Nardo's main strength is his perseverance and all his friends. In 1v1 Combat, we can't really be so sure he has the advantage. Also Nardo just lost the Sage mode and the TB are sealed. I'm not really sure how NB believes Nardo has the edge here. I'd like to hear rationally what counters Nardo has to:

1) Infinite Tsukuyomi
2) Izanagi
3) Amaterasu shield
4) Perfect Susanno (Kurama Avatar can be genjutsu'd now, apparently)
5) Sasuke's jutsu received from Hashirama
6) Kirin
7) Kirin again.
8) Chibaku Tensei, and other Rinnegan techs

I could go on... but do I really need to?

 

[Wolfus]

Same deal with Sasuke. He's always been equal to or stronger than Nardo for the entire series. Base is filled with haters, but the fact is Nardo was toast without Itachi's help vs. Nagato. And without his father's chakra he'd have lost to Nagato the first time. Nardo alone got owned by pre-Juubi Obito. Nardo alone got owned by Madara, same as Sasuke. Nardo alone was no match for Kabuto or Itachi either.

Fact is Nardo's main strength is his perseverance and all his friends. In 1v1 Combat, we can't really be so sure he has the advantage. Also Nardo just lost the Sage mode and the TB are sealed. I'm not really sure how NB believes Nardo has the edge here. I'd like to hear rationally what counters Nardo has to:

1) Infinite Tsukuyomi
2) Izanagi
3) Amaterasu shield
4) Perfect Susanno (Kurama Avatar can be genjutsu'd now, apparently)
5) Sasuke's jutsu received from Hashirama
6) Kirin
7) Kirin again.
8) Chibaku Tensei, and other Rinnegan techs

I could go on... but do I really need to?

1- Stop being an idiot. Is sasuke a juubi jin to perform the technique? Dumbass. Return to 1st grade and learn to read. Though it may be extremelly complex for you.
2- Nothing ever hinted that he can use it. Idiot.
3 Bijuu dama exploding right in his face, gudou dama, clones, etc
4- That's indeed a crazy drug. Kurama inside naruto can be genjutsu'd? There is constant chakra transference between naruto, kurama and the other 8 bijuu. They can't be genjutsu'd.
5- That was meant for madara. We don't even know what it is... Huh, are you braindead or something?
6/7- Kirin, really? Not only he can dodge that shit, but bijuu avatar and gudou dama....
8- You mean the rinnegan techs he countered with SM and being a controlless kurama jin? Those rinnegan techs? How could he ever?

You need to go to the hospital, see if there's a brain for donation.

 

[Trea]

No one is going to win this fight. It will be a draw with both of them severely beaten up enough to save face. They will have used up enough chakra to barely be able to do anything else other than talk. They will then proceed to TNJ each other. A one sided TNJ will not work this time to end the transmigration cycle.

They not only have to talk to each other but they also need to listen and truly hear what the other is saying. If that doesn't happen the curse of hatred won't end and Ashura and Indra will continue to find ways to go to war with each other. Each of them will have to compromise on some of the things they want.

 

[ministerC4]

Nice bait, I don't understand how it got conveyed.

 

[narutoblitz]

This guy is mentally incapable

His threads are just nonsense theorys

Stay off crack kids.

Ok where is your proof? We've seen fight after fight of Naruto getting beaten by Sasuke, even admitting himself that Sasuke was stronger the last time that they fought.

Your argument stems from a fallacy called

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, where you perceive someone negatively and use insults to "disprove" or discredit them. Every post on here is a theory if it's talking about the future of the manga, as none of us are Kishimoto.

"Naruto has to win". Why? Because NB thinks so? It's Kishi's manga. Besides, it's for a Japanese audience. By the way, brat. I actually live in Japan and speak Japanese. So I can tell you that the guy writing this manga doesn't give two hoots what you or I think about how it ends.

2chan seems to think Sasuke === Naruto in terms of power. It's just NB that's being delusional about Sauce's power level.