Madara vs Obito, no Ocular powers

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No MS. EMS, Rinnegan Techniques allowed. But they can use regular sharingan techs to read each other's movements and stuff.

Who would win?

Hashirama's cells/Wood release is also banned (the healing factor makes it too difficult of a battle)
 

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They'll just be battling with black rods and Uchiha techniques then...

Madara doesn't get Susanoo and Obito kamui right?

I have no idea then
 

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obito wins this

Lol, I expected more from you:

-Madara is relentless in Taijutsu, Obito couldn't even keep up with Kakashi

-Madara is the original owner of the Rinnegan, and Obito could barely handle one eye

Madara punks that clown
 

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Lol, I expected more from you:

-Madara is relentless in Taijutsu, Obito couldn't even keep up with Kakashi

-Madara is the original owner of the Rinnegan, and Obito could barely handle one eye

Madara punks that clown
Lol, you haven't read the Manga properly. - ; - Madara still wins though.
 

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Madara wins, he reacted to BM Naruto who tried to Rasengan blitz him.

BM Naruto headbutted Obito.
 

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obito's ocular powers are better than madara so without them madara wins.
 

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Madara wins, he reacted to BM Naruto who tried to Rasengan blitz him.

BM Naruto headbutted Obito.

He tried to pin down naruto with one hand and apture kakashi with the other.

So those can be taken into consideration too.

Both don't have MS/EMS eyes like OP said, they'll just use 3 tomoe for the time being.

I would give the taijustu skills to Madara 100% (because he's f*cking Madara), but the advance Uchiha skills can be thrown in as well.

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Madara's going to win, his base skills are on another level from Obito's.
 

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madara wins this
Superior taijutsu and shunshin along with large scale katons and gunbai would result in obito dying
 

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Madara win in Taijutsu
 

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Madara can still sense and use powerful Katon along with his Gunbai. Kage Bunshin can pin him down with Katon, while Madara cuts him up with Gunbai. He can also use Haijingakure no Jutsu to cloak Obito's vision. Obito is never winning this.​
 

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Madara wins without much difficulty.

-his base speed far outclasses Obito's by feats, as his shunshin was so fast that SM naruto had no choice but to block.(aka couldn't dodge)
-Has better CQC feats due to superior usage of Gunbai.(and speed as above)
-Has better katons by feats.

So overall, Madara wins low diff.
 

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Madara's base prowess are by massive margin above Obito's.​
 

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He tried to pin down naruto with one hand and apture kakashi with the other.

So those can be taken into consideration too.

Both don't have MS/EMS eyes like OP said, they'll just use 3 tomoe for the time being.

I would give the taijustu skills to Madara 100% (because he's f*cking Madara), but the advance Uchiha skills can be thrown in as well.

Like this:

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Madara knows all jutsu Obito knows...because Madara taught him the jutsus.

This boils down to taijutsu and combat intelligence. Obito has slightly higher intelligence, while Madara has slightly higher taijutsu ability. Madara's taijutsu's dominance wins it for him high diff, because he's still intelligent.
 
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