[Predictions] Kishimoto will do what we least expect: Naruto will be defeated fairly

[Honord Sage]

Naruto is the most unpredictable Ninja who is capable of pulling off the impossible.

 

[Hata Hideaki]

Kishimoto will do what Sasuke fans least expect: Naruto will defeat Sasuke.

ot: for some reason your avatar so annoying. especially dat mouth. :|

 

[Cael]

I think Sasuke has a better chance of winning then Naruto,but Naruto will most likely win.

what are these chances are you talking about ?

 

[Zawerni]

ot: for some reason your avatar so annoying. especially dat mouth. :|

What's wrong with the mouth? o.o

 

[narutoblitz]

I have to admit, you certainly have a way of twisting facts.

The Sage being good is an assumption you guys made, much like how NB assumed Itachi to be evil. It's nothing more than an opinion that the Sage is right or wrong. He let his own sons fight to the death. He's also done very little to help those still stuck in the Infinite Tsukyomi. The world he made has seen 4 world wars and the near extinction of mankind. Plus his brother is dead and he had his own mother killed.

His actions don't add up. S06P is not good, let alone a god.

 

[narutoblitz]

He gave him jutsu to stop maddy not naruto

I'd argue it doesn't really matter why Hashirama gave Sasuke the jutsu. What it means is that Sasuke can probably stop Naruto's sage mode.

 

[Draxus]

The Sage being good is an assumption you guys made, much like how NB assumed Itachi to be evil. It's nothing more than an opinion that the Sage is right or wrong. He let his own sons fight to the death. He's also done very little to help those still stuck in the Infinite Tsukyomi. The world he made has seen 4 world wars and the near extinction of mankind. Plus his brother is dead and he had his own mother killed.

His actions don't add up. S06P is not good, let alone a god.

You seem to conflating character and intent.

Whether the sage was right or wrong in his actions doesn't dictate whether his character is good or evil.

This post is a prime example of you twisting facts. First off where was it stated he let his sons fight to the death?
Where was it stated one of them even died in their final confrontation? You just made that assumption to make him look bad. Anyway, Sage was already dead at that point, so he was in no position to stop his sons from fighting to the death.

How is he supposed to help the people in IT, beyond what he's done, exactly? Why is it his responsibility to do anything for them? He's a friggin' ghost! If he wasn't going to help them, he wouldn't have ever appeared. He's helping his descendants to save the world from IT in the way they see fit, he's not making the choice for them.

The sage didn't create the world, he didn't create the ninja system, and people would have fought wars with or without ninjutsu. This argument is completely irrelevant to Hag's character.

See what you're doing is stawman'ing the sage to be some benevolent god, when he never claimed to be, so you can tear him down for not meet that image. In reality he's a mortal man with extraordinary powers. He is not without flaws and can make mistakes, but that alone doesn't form his character. We don't know everything about him and hamura's life story, but that doesn't make him suspicious necessarily.

In his own words he said he was trying to create a way for people to connect to one another through ninshu, none of his actions contradict this. From everything Kishi has shown us, Hagoromo is not evil. I personally don't see him as a force for "good" necessarily, like Naruto, I think he had good intentions though. He's basically Neutral Good, while Naruto is Lawful Good.

Hey, I know you have an agenda here and I'm not try to get in the way of that. You seem to think if you make the Sage look evil, who clearly leans toward Naruto's way of thinking, it will somehow validate Sasuke's actions. I was just admiring your ability to be intellectually dishonest, without sounding 100% like a troll.

 

[phoenixstark]

Me too Hagoromo no convincing, remember when he present himself as the one who brought peace and order? But what kind of peace and order are talking about if we understand how non c'è never been anything of this.

You seem to conflating character and intent.

Whether the sage was right or wrong in his actions doesn't dictate whether his character is good or evil.

This post is a prime example of you twisting facts. First off where was it stated he let his sons fight to the death?
Where was it stated one of them even died in their final confrontation? You just made that assumption to make him look bad. Anyway, Sage was already dead at that point, so he was in no position to stop his sons from fighting to the death.

How is he supposed to help the people in IT, beyond what he's done, exactly? Why is it his responsibility to do anything for them? He's a friggin' ghost! If he wasn't going to help them, he wouldn't have ever appeared. He's helping his descendants to save the world from IT in the way they see fit, he's not making the choice for them.

The sage didn't create the world, he didn't create the ninja system, and people would have fought wars with or without ninjutsu. This argument is completely irrelevant to Hag's character.

See what you're doing is stawman'ing the sage to be some benevolent god, when he never claimed to be, so you can tear him down for not meet that image. In reality he's a mortal man with extraordinary powers. He is not without flaws and can make mistakes, but that alone doesn't form his character. We don't know everything about him and hamura's life story, but that doesn't make him suspicious necessarily.

In his own words he said he was trying to create a way for people to connect to one another through ninshu, none of his actions contradict this. From everything Kishi has shown us, Hagoromo is not evil. I personally don't see him as a force for "good" necessarily, like Naruto, I think he had good intentions though. He's basically Neutral Good, while Naruto is Lawful Good.

Hey, I know you have an agenda here and I'm not try to get in the way of that. You seem to think if you make the Sage look evil, who clearly leans toward Naruto's way of thinking, it will somehow validate Sasuke's actions. I was just admiring your ability to be intellectually dishonest, without sounding 100% like a troll.

 

[Draxus]

Me too Hagoromo no convincing, remember when he present himself as the one who brought peace and order? But what kind of peace and order are talking about if we understand how non c'è never been anything of this.

Not really sure what you mean. If you're asking why he said he was the one who brought peace and order, it's because he defeated the juubi. There was peace until he died, he never claimed to have brought everlasting peace and order.

 

[phoenixstark]

You say that refers to that period of time . However He forgets to say that along with his brother Hamura has brought peace and order, he just didn't defeat the Juubi by only.

Not really sure what you mean. If you're asking why he said he was the one who brought peace and order, it's because he defeated the juubi. There was peace until he died, he never claimed to have brought everlasting peace and order.

 

[Draxus]

You say that refers to that period of time . However He forgets to say that along with his brother Hamura has brought peace and order, he just didn't defeat the Juubi by only.

Every time you introduce yourself and you title, you should also include anyone who help you accomplish said feet? That's kinda dumb. But so what, the sage has an ego, does that make him automatically mean he can't be good? Are good characters not allowed to have faults?

Clearly he wasn't hiding his brothers involvement since he did volunteer the info that you are currently try to use to discredit him. Don't you see how contradictory that is: Hagoromo didn't say his brother help bring peace and order... right before he tells Naruto Hamura helped him bring peace and order.