Why Naruto can't beat Sasuke

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There is no flaws. Genjutsu contrary to popular belief is not useless against Naruto. You only think this because you've seen members going around saying genjutsu is useless against PJ's when as long as the PJ isn't aware of the genjutsu it is easily effective. And also if you happen to be capable of entering the Jinchurickis conciousness and mindraping the beasts inside.



I looked over your post and it's full of misconceptions. Seriously just reread these chapters over again. You didn't understand them. I dislike debating with people who aren't on the same page as me when it comes to understanding what happened in the manga for obvious reasons. So this discussion is over. Thank you :)

I read them, not sure you did. Your scenarios are misconceptions if mines are lol
 

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There is no flaws. Genjutsu contrary to popular belief is not useless against Naruto. You only think this because you've seen members going around saying genjutsu is useless against PJ's when as long as the PJ isn't aware of the genjutsu it is easily effective. And also if you happen to be capable of entering the Jinchurickis conciousness and mindraping the beasts inside.



I looked over your post and it's full of misconceptions. Seriously just reread these chapters over again. You didn't understand them. I dislike debating with people who aren't on the same page as me when it comes to understanding what happened in the manga for obvious reasons. So this discussion is over. Thank you :)

Once again your basis is flawed. Reason is in my earlier post.

Genjutsu is useless against Naruto because
(1) Naruto can ha up to 9 tailed beast snap him out of it.

(2) 9 Tailed beasts chackra + rikudo chackra can be used to distrupt the chackra network to break the genjutsu.

So as you can see its not looking very good for Sasuke in the genjutsu department.
 

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Once again your basis is flawed. Reason is in my earlier post.

Genjutsu is useless against Naruto because
(1) Naruto can ha up to 9 tailed beast snap him out of it.

(2) 9 Tailed beasts chackra + rikudo chackra can be used to distrupt the chackra network to break the genjutsu.

So as you can see its not looking very good for Sasuke in the genjutsu department.
It's like you didn't read my post.
 

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That's funny, especially when the rooftop, VoTE, beginning of Shippuden, and when team 7 re-meets were all plot that made Sasuke not die or win lol very funny bro lol. Kakashi said worst case Sasuke dies for the rooftop and Sasuke reaction to seeing Rasengan destructive power and ask how strong Naruto gotten shows that. VoTE, Sasuke got his base stats boosted by Orochimaru drug and fought Naruto who wasn't trying to kill Sasuke and not summoning Gamabuta in such a close fight. People say Gama wouldn't fight a kid, Sasuke is an official ninja and he's trying to join Orochimaru who is Jiraiya's and Konoha's enemy do think again.

Naruto was stated to be weakened by both Sakura and himself after going 4 tails on Orochimaru then he meets Sasuke after deciding not to use Kurama power. Sasuke only went there because Naruto did and Naruti doesn't have to go there to go 3 tail mode and if he gets really angry then he just goes 4 tails+ or he'll appear inside Kurama's cage which Sasuke wouldn't affect so 4 tails wins this. Sasuke was blind so no need to explain how Naruto wins in base and Naruto even said he'll fight him anytime.

Sasuke have plot protecting him more than Naruto in their fights so remember that before you say other wise

1. Kakashi didnt know wtf he was talking about because naruto and sasuke clashed countless amount of times and no one got killed.
2. Plot saved naruto VOTE because sasuke could have ended him right there and again in the beginning of part 2 but orochimaru saved them all from sasuke.
3. Sasuke's base stats were and always will be higher than naruto's.
4. Naruto going four tails didnt have any effect on him by the time he saw sasuke.
5. Sasuke can cancel kurama which he already did so naruto going 4 tails in that fight wont matter.
6. Sasuke went blind....so what? that puts shame on naruto for being equal to a guy who is blind.
7. Lastly, naruto has so many plot shields it's not even funny. Gaara, Sasuke, Kimimaro, madara, obito, orochimaru, deidara, pain, etc all these characters had many chances to kill naruto but plot saves him over and over.
 

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1. Kakashi didnt know wtf he was talking about because naruto and sasuke clashed countless amount of times and no one got killed.
2. Plot saved naruto VOTE because sasuke could have ended him right there and again in the beginning of part 2 but orochimaru saved them all from sasuke.
3. Sasuke's base stats were and always will be higher than naruto's.
4. Naruto going four tails didnt have any effect on him by the time he saw sasuke.
5. Sasuke can cancel kurama which he already did so naruto going 4 tails in that fight wont matter.
6. Sasuke went blind....so what? that puts shame on naruto for being equal to a guy who is blind.
7. Lastly, naruto has so many plot shields it's not even funny. Gaara, Sasuke, Kimimaro, madara, obito, orochimaru, deidara, pain, etc all these characters had many chances to kill naruto but plot saves him over and over.

1. Kakashi knows more than you and I guess you forgot the fact that Sasuke got stronger in his base when he took Orochimaru drug so they clashed evenly after that. You can easily see Sasuke got stronger by comparing VoTE to the rooftop fight and Sasuke did no training, only took a pill.

2. Sasuke wouldn't be sparing anyone if Naruto summoned Gamabuta because Gamabuta can either kill Sasuke or capture him. Naruto would ask Gamabuta to capture him which he will do with his toad tongue then return Sasuke back to Konoha and mission completed. Orochimaru wouldn't be stopping Sasuke if Naruto went 4 tails as I said, even Orochimaru using ninjutsu said he faced unavoidable death.

3. No they weren't, base stats mean no Sharingan by the way. If Sasuke's stats were higher than Naruto then why would he be saying is this the same Naruto and be pissed as he said how strong have Naruto gotten. Sasuke was said to use drugs or forbidden jutsus to speed up his growth via Orochimaru since Tsunade, the best medic expert, said Sasuke's growth wasn't normal. Naruto improved his base to the point that Kakashi said Naruto equal to him if not surpassing and that's with his Sharingan that he always use.

4. Oh? Maybe I'll just leave him falling in Orochimaru hideout here and when he fell again when he was running to where Sakura was when she saw Sasuke here and .

5. As I already said he only did that because Naruto went there and Naruto was going to suppress Kurama himself. Nothing says Sasuke can stop Naruto from using it if he wants too and Naruto went 3 tails without going to Kurama and when he went 4 tails he accepted the power and was in Kurama cage, Sasuke only suppress the small chakra amount that Kurama sent out the cage, nothing implies Sasuke can affect anything in the cage.

6. It never said Sasuke was equal to Naruto so Naruto could have beat Sasuke easily at that point. And don't bring that dumb Naruto saying he needs Kurama for Sasuke, he read his mind when they clash and was talking about the next time they meet, if you say anything different then I can easily say Sasuke said he needs EMS for base Naruto when he also know Naruto would be stronger.

7. Sasuke have it just the same with Gaara, Naruto (more than once), sound 4, Orochimaru (Sasuke said himself he only won because Orochimaru was already weakened), Deidara (he had Orochimaru power from having him sealed), Itachi, Bee, A, Mei, Oonoki, Danzo, Kabuto, Obito, Madara, Kaguya. Sasuke had 3 death blows against Bee alone.
 
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