Sasuke doesn't posses senjustu

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I'm sick & tired of people incinuating SASUKE has SENJUSTU.
He doesn't. He only has Sage Chakra [Hagoromo].

Senjutsu is refers to a
specialised field of techniques that allows the
user to sense and then gather the natural energy.

Hagoromo chakra & Senjustu are entirely different.
BTW Sasuke Black chidori was a result of Sage chakra.
 

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Sage chakra = Senjutsu.. Learn to accept it.. No one claim it was on Naruto's level, but it's Senjutsu none the less.
 

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yes indeed, and the curse mark is also senjutsu but havent been achived by sasuage himself
 

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Sage Chakra = Senjutsu Chakra.
 

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Sasuke has Rikudō chakra which is also called senjutsu. He doesn't possess senjutsu required for Sage Mode.
 

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Sage chakra = Senjutsu.. Learn to accept it.. No one claim it was on Naruto's level, but it's Senjutsu none the less.

Show me scans, where it was said;
Sage chakra = Senjustu?
 

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Sasuke has Rikudō chakra which is also called senjutsu. He doesn't possess senjutsu required for Sage Mode.

Senjutsu is Senjutsu regardless of how it's used.
 

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I'm sick & tired of people incinuating SASUKE has SENJUSTU.
He doesn't. He only has Sage Chakra [Hagoromo].

Senjutsu is refers to a
specialised field of techniques that allows the
user to sense and then gather the natural energy.


Hagoromo chakra & Senjustu are entirely different.
BTW Sasuke Black chidori was a result of Sage chakra.

That is SM you r speaking of @ bold. Senjustu are the jutsu produced by SM. The curse mark that Orochimaru uses utilizes senjutsu chakra, but Oro can't go SM. Also, tell me this. How can Hagoromo have juubi chakra, having juubi chakra gives u senjutsu, and Hagoromo give someone half of his chakra (supposedly 6P Senjutsu chakra) and it not be senjutsu?

Not saying u r wrong, I am just curious
 
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Sasuke has Rikudō chakra which is also called senjutsu. He doesn't possess senjutsu required for Sage Mode.

Wrong.
Senjustu literally means NATURE ENERGY.
Sage chakra is Hagoromo chakra.

Examples;
Current Naruto has Perfect sage mode.
He was able to achieve this with Sage [Hagoromo] chakra.
Which means Sage chakra + Senjustu = PERFECT SAGE MODE.
 

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Sage chakra = Senjutsu.. Learn to accept it.. No one claim it was on Naruto's level, but it's Senjutsu none the less.

The reference of sage in both cases is different hence the word senjutsu in both the case has different meanings.

Sage chakra or more accurately said six paths sage chakra if called senjutsu(though i have heard only fapboys say "senjutsu" this way) refers to the chakra of "Sage" of six paths and has no relation to nature energy whatsoever.Speaking strictly in terms of the chakra Sasuke received.

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Sage chakra in case of Naruto refers to,more appropriately put,"Sage" mode chakra or senjutsu chakra with the meaning here being the chakra that one creates by combining their own chakra with Nature energy.*_*

If you google senjutsu the senjutsu wiki page comes up,
Quoting the wiki "Senjutsu (仙術; English TV "Sage Jutsu"; Literally meaning "Sage Techniques") refers to a specialised field of techniques that allows the user to sense and then gather the natural energy (自然エネルギー, shizen enerugī) around a person. "

As for Hagoromo's chakra the wiki says on the senjutsu page "After Naruto recieved the Sage's senjutsu, his Sage Mode became greatly empowered and, along with the chakra of the nine tailed beasts, gained access to a form referred to as Six Paths Sage Technique."

No where is Sasuke even mentioned on the wiki page of senjutsu:win:
 
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Wrong.
Senjustu literally means NATURE ENERGY.
Sage chakra is Hagoromo chakra.

Examples;
Current Naruto has Perfect sage mode.
He was able to achieve this with Sage [Hagoromo] chakra.
Which means Sage chakra + Senjustu = PERFECT SAGE MODE.

Your problem is that you think we are sayin Sasuke has sage mode, we aren't. We are saying he has sage chakra which he do... It's a difference between sage chakra and sage mode.. But senjutsu means sage chakra
 

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I'm sick & tired of people incinuating SASUKE has SENJUSTU.
He doesn't. He only has Sage Chakra [Hagoromo].

Senjutsu is refers to a
specialised field of techniques that allows the
user to sense and then gather the natural energy.

Hagoromo chakra & Senjustu are entirely different.
BTW Sasuke Black chidori was a result of Sage chakra.

He does, just doesn't have sage mode itself.
 

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The black chidori is a product of Senjutsu
 

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Naruto is the only one who has actual senjutsu. Sasuke's senjutsu simply refers to Hagoromo's chakra.
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Naruto-Rikudou Sage Mode.
Sasuke- Rikudou senjutsu chakra.

Its like the difference between CM and SM both contain senjutsu chakra, but one is perfected.

So basically yes. Naruto and Sasuke have senjutsu chakra.
 

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That is SM you r speaking of @ bold. Senjustu are the jutsu produced by SM. The curse mark that Orochimaru uses utilizes senjutsu chakra, but Oro can't go SM. Also, tell me this. How can Hagoromo have juubi chakra, having juubi chakra gives u senjutsu, and Hagoromo give someone half of his chakra (supposedly 6P Senjutsu chakra) and it not be senjutsu?

Not saying u r wrong, I am just curious


Two things..
Orochimaru intially learn SM. But he wasn't able activate due to his weak body.
So instead he experimented with Jugo cells, and created an alternative way.
THUS Curse seals.

Hagoromo chakra & Juubi chakra are different.
Just like Naruto & Kurama.
Hagoromo gave Naruto Senjustu of six paths [BODY]which made Naruto had Guduodamas..

While, he gave Sasuke his sage chakra.. Which help him awaken Sharinnegan.
 

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Your problem is that you think we are sayin Sasuke has sage mode, we aren't. We are saying he has sage chakra which he do... It's a difference between sage chakra and sage mode.. But senjutsu means sage chakra

Nope.
Senjustu means Natural energy not Sage chakra.
 

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Two things..
Orochimaru intially learn SM. But he wasn't able activate due to his weak body.
So instead he experimented with Jugo cells, and created an alternative way.
THUS Curse seals.

Hagoromo chakra & Juubi chakra are different.
Just like Naruto & Kurama.
Hagoromo gave Naruto Senjustu of six paths [BODY]which made Naruto had Guduodamas.


While, he gave Sasuke his sage chakra.. Which help him awaken Sharinnegan.
@bold, not really all chakra came from the Juubi and Hagoromo and Hamura were born with Juubi chakra. Proof of Hagoromo possessing Juubi chakra is His Six Paths Sage Mode which is evident by his TSBs
 
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