Itachi vs Zabuza and current Kakashi

[Phonas]

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[Haizaki]

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I could have repped you.

 

[LustyLover]

Itachi’s Counters to the Mist:

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Advanced Sensing and Awareness:

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Itachi has one of the greatest environmental and situational awareness' out of all the characters in the manga. You believe that Itachi will be killed due to the fact that his vision is obscured but this isn't the case. Itachi, shown through the scan up, has shown to be able to utilize his senses to such a degree where he knows exactly where an opponent is at all times without using his eyesight.

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and yet Itachi, someone who isn't an actual Sensor, was able to respond to it instead.

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Itachi was able to predict that Sasuke was watching him despite the fact that Fugaku, the leader of the Uchiha Clan and someone much more experienced than Itachi, wasn't able to. This is further emphasized by the fact that he had multiple exclamation marks by his head. He also had not used his eyes to locate him, but rather relied on his senses (smell, sound, etc.) although Sasuke had made no visible noises throughout the encounter. This means that, whether or not the sounds Zabuza and Kakashi make are slight, he'll still be able to discern them and figure out their location to respond accordingly.

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Out of everyone in the village, all the sensors contained within, not a single person was able to notice Obito's presence. This includes Minato, someone who is also an incredibly advanced sensor (

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) and even though his sensory abilities were significant he too failed to spot Obito's presence in Konoha.

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Bunshin: Daibakuha

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One explosion alone is enough to throw all the mist backwards and reveal Zabuza and Kakashi, prompting Itachi for a quick Shunshin assassination; if not, Itachi can make many more.

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If this fails, you say that Itachi cannot make more simultaneously, so instead Itachi can make them individually as to put less of a strain on his chakra and stamina reserves, all the while protecting himself by focusing on his senses as to not get surprise attacked. By doing this the amount of clones will increase rapidly and thus the size of the explosion would as well, effectively clearing the mist.

Crow Clones

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First, Itachi'll start off by transmitting a thin amount of chakra to each and every one of the summoned crows (

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and scatter them out throughout the mist and his surroundings. Zabuza and Kakashi will run into them as they make their way towards Itachi. Once they make contact team two will kill them with impunity by either lighting them up with Katons or slicing them with Zabuza's Kubikiribocho. Regardless of what kills them, Itachi will feel his chakra vanish and when it does he'll know the precise location they died and head there immediately, essentially informing Itachi to Kakashi's and Zabuza's location.

Heavenly Illumination

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You claim that since Pakura's Katon technique failed to clear the mist Itachi's will as well. That is not the case.

Pakura's Katon has neither the portrayal nor feats that Itachi's does.

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whereas Pakura's

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The comparison is laughable at best.

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so instead of just aiming it to the North he uses it in a 360 degree manner. This will effectively permanently burn through the mist and continue moving until it hits a target, which will be both Kakashi and Zabuza. At the very worst Itachi can formulate a small circle of flames to protect himself while contemplating his next attacks,

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The very heat of

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The heat will burn the chakra particles contained within the mist and end the technique.

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and yet would of been blitzed by Itachi had he not been warned by others of his presence

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. Itachi utilizes the same Shunshin either prior to Zabuza creating the mist or after Itachi dissipates it. Either way they're getting decimated.

No lube in the world is saving them from the colossal rape they will experience.
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[Phonas]

I could have repped you.

Evani, acknowledge Itachi's divine competence. You know you want to let the inner Itachi fanboyism in you out.

 

[Haizaki]

Evani, acknowledge Itachi's divine competence. You know you want to let the inner Itachi fanboyism in you out.

Itachi can win this but people underrate the team badly when they have deadly abilities as well. You can read my previous posts were I pretty much explain what I think about this..Some people really think Base Itachi can win this low diff...smh I'm not beating a dead goat by this time Lol.

 

[LustyLover]

Itachi can win this but people underrate the team badly when they have deadly abilities as well. You can read my previous posts were I pretty much explain what I think about this..Some people really think Base Itachi can win this low diff...smh I'm not beating a dead goat by this time Lol.

I already explained some of it in that post. You're welcome to counter.

Yes, base Itachi does have ways of putting them down. In fact he has ways of putting them down with ease.

 

[Phonas]

Itachi can win this but people underrate the team badly when they have deadly abilities as well. You can read my previous posts were I pretty much explain what I think about this..Some people really think Base Itachi can win this low diff...smh I'm not beating a dead goat by this time Lol.

But Base Itachi already synchronously neg diffed 6 Part 1 Kakashi's at once, in a sense (since one Uchiha police force has a pair of mastered 3-T Sharingans, and Part 1 Kakashi was only in possession of one that paled in comparison to those who harbored it with a bloodline). Part 1 Kakashi also stated that we haven't even seen half of what a 13 year old base Itachi can do, insinuating that Itachi was completely holding back and this was after Kakashi was panting from the clone explosion.

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[Haizaki]

Itachi’s Counters to the Mist:

Spoiler

Advanced Sensing and Awareness:

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Itachi has one of the greatest environmental and situational awareness' out of all the characters in the manga. You believe that Itachi will be killed due to the fact that his vision is obscured but this isn't the case. Itachi, shown through the scan up, has shown to be able to utilize his senses to such a degree where he knows exactly where an opponent is at all times without using his eyesight.

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] and yet Itachi, someone who isn't an actual Sensor, was able to respond to it instead.

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Itachi was able to predict that Sasuke was watching him despite the fact that Fugaku, the leader of the Uchiha Clan and someone much more experienced than Itachi, wasn't able to. This is further emphasized by the fact that he had multiple exclamation marks by his head. He also had not used his eyes to locate him, but rather relied on his senses (smell, sound, etc.) although Sasuke had made no visible noises throughout the encounter. This means that, whether or not the sounds Zabuza and Kakashi make are slight, he'll still be able to discern them and figure out their location to respond accordingly.

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Out of everyone in the village, all the sensors contained within, not a single person was able to notice Obito's presence. This includes Minato, someone who is also an incredibly advanced sensor (

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]-

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]) and even though his sensory abilities were significant he too failed to spot Obito's presence in Konoha.

Spoiler

Bunshin: Daibakuha

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One explosion alone is enough to throw all the mist backwards and reveal Zabuza and Kakashi, prompting Itachi for a quick Shunshin assassination; if not, Itachi can make many more.

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] If this fails, you say that Itachi cannot make more simultaneously, so instead Itachi can make them individually as to put less of a strain on his chakra and stamina reserves, all the while protecting himself by focusing on his senses as to not get surprise attacked. By doing this the amount of clones will increase rapidly and thus the size of the explosion would as well, effectively clearing the mist.

Crow Clones

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First, Itachi'll start off by transmitting a thin amount of chakra to each and every one of the summoned crows and scatter them out throughout the mist and his surroundings. Zabuza and Kakashi will run into them as they make their way towards Itachi. Once they make contact team two will kill them with impunity by either lighting them up with Katons or slicing them with Zabuza's Kubikiribocho. Regardless of what kills them, Itachi will feel his chakra vanish and when it does he'll know the precise location they died and head there immediately, essentially informing Itachi to Kakashi's and Zabuza's location.

Heavenly Illumination

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You claim that since Pakura's Katon technique failed to clear the mist Itachi's will as well. That is not the case.

Pakura's Katon has neither the portrayal nor feats that Itachi's does.

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] whereas Pakura's

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]

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] The comparison is laughable at best.

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] so instead of just aiming it to the North he uses it in a 360 degree manner. This will effectively permanently burn through the mist and continue moving until it hits a target, which will be both Kakashi and Zabuza. At the very worst Itachi can formulate a small circle of flames to protect himself while contemplating his next attacks,

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] The very heat of

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] The heat will burn the chakra particles contained within the mist and end the technique.

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] and yet would of been blitzed by Itachi had he not been warned by others of his presence

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]-

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]. Itachi utilizes the same Shunshin either prior to Zabuza creating the mist or after Itachi dissipates it. Either way they're getting decimated.

No lube in the world is saving them from the colossal rape they will experience.
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If this is a reply to me then you wasted your time because I'm not replying, I've countered you over and over again. 5 pages. You'll just be bringing up the same thing over and over again. Not even FTG has a relevance to this.

You say Base Itachi raoes Lol...you changed your mind and started bringing up MS abilities which I countered again. Now you're bringing up essays.

Pakura used scorch release while in the mist. Another KKG that its chakra alone is capable of evaporating even the liquids in people as seen with the orbs. Even Minato referred to Sasuke and Naruto's collaboration as scorch release

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Amaterasu is doing a thing to the mist. Sure it's stronger than a normal fire style but the fact that an advanced Nature couldn't do anything to the mist just proves this wrong. Amaterasu is probably stronger..maybe it is but nothing hints that fire style can take down the mist no matter how high it is when ordinarily, a normal fire should counter mist but still the manga doesn't support this. Meaning that it's not ordinary mist.


Have a goodnight..I'm done...it's too late.

 

[Haizaki]

I already explained some of it in that post. You're welcome to counter.

Yes, base Itachi does have ways of putting them down. In fact he has ways of putting them down with ease.

Lol keep waiting. I'm done..can't be going round circles .

 

[LustyLover]

But Base Itachi already synchronously neg diffed 6 Part 1 Kakashi's at once, in a sense (since one Uchiha police force has a pair of mastered 3-T Sharingans, and Part 1 Kakashi was only in possession of one that paled in comparison to those who harbored it with a bloodline). Part 1 Kakashi also stated that we haven't even seen half of what a 13 year old base Itachi can do, insinuating that Itachi was completely holding back and this was after Kakashi was panting from the clone explosion.

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Not to mention that Itachi can put them in a Genjutsu from the start of the battle regardless of how far apart they are

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I personally don't even believe Genjutsu is needed. He blitzes them outright.

 

[LustyLover]

Lol keep waiting. I'm done..can't be going round circles .

So you concede again? This is beginning to become a habit with you. Did Itachi rustle your jimmies or something?

 

[Haizaki]

So you concede again? This is beginning to become a habit with you. Did Itachi rustle your jimmies or something?

Having the last reply doesn't mean I agree with you or you won or whatsoever..I'm actually tired of this...5 pages is just much. Anyone who's reasonable would tell you who gave better points but I'm not going into that anyways.

I gave points and points but you kept ignoring them especially with the clone part. I fully well countered the amaterasu, firesytle, genjutsu and every single one you brought. From what I've seen, this won't end so I'm not continuing and no my jimmies can't be rustled...Only if people never took this stuff to such an extent Lol.

 

[LustyLover]

Having the last reply doesn't mean I agree with you or you won or whatsoever..I'm actually tired of this...5 pages is just much. Anyone who's reasonable would tell you who gave better points but I'm not going into that anyways.

I gave points and points but you kept ignoring them especially with the clone part. I fully well countered the amaterasu, firesytle, genjutsu and every single one you brought. From what I've seen, this won't end so I'm not continuing and no my jimmies can't be rustled...Only if people never took this stuff to such an extent Lol.

The only person that agrees with you here is ATD and he has Downs.

 

[Haizaki]

The only new thing I see you brought was advanced sensing and that's useless against SILENT kILLING

I hope you know even sensors were in the mist?

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Yet nothing was achieved.

Gai showed the ability to react to things he couldn't see

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yet he had problems in the mist even though he's>>>>>>Itachi when it comes to reflexes and reactions.

Itachi being able to do better than a sensor in terms of knowing this guy's position in the mist is a real joke. This guy openly said it was Nagato who could sense Kabuto's chakra which led Itachi to him

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Man this is enough..It won't end Lol

 

[LustyLover]

^Um, no, you clearly didn't read at all. I never said Itachi was a sensor.

"and yet Itachi, someone who isn't an actual Sensor, was able to respond to it instead." I even said that in the beginning of the post.

And don't give me that half-assed response. If you're going to respond at all give me something of actual credibility.

 

[Haizaki]

Oh and the crow clones are summonings...Those clones there with Hidan isn't Itachi doing that Lol...Like the scan said, they all come together to create a human form.

Also, they're summonings as well. I don't think he can summon infinite ones. There's a limit and he uses that to create a form. That's why he said to Naruto "I have something more important to do" and that was to meet with Sasuke to lead him to the real Itachi.

 

[LustyLover]

Oh and the crow clones are summonings...Those clones there with Hidan isn't Itachi doing that Lol...Like the scan said, they all come together to create a human form.

Also, they're summonings as well. I don't think he can summon infinite ones. There's a limit and he uses that to create a form. That's why he said to Naruto "I have something more important to do" and that was to meet with Sasuke to lead him to the real Itachi.

Itachi doesn't need to give them chakra AND use it to turn the crows into a replica of him. Give me an actual counter please.

 

[Haizaki]

^Um, no, you clearly didn't read at all. I never said Itachi was a sensor.

"and yet Itachi, someone who isn't an actual Sensor, was able to respond to it instead." I even said that in the beginning of the post.

And don't give me that half-assed response. If you're going to respond at all give me something of actual credibility.

You want me to reply to do whole thing but I'm not doing that. You ignored my previous post with the clones because I completely owned you there.

Now you come up with essays repeating nearly the same thing and you want a full reply? Loom for someone else to do that.

You were the one not reading sir Lol. Did I say you said he was a sensor? The reason why I don't even want t reply is because you never sit down to analyze one's post. You just jump in.

Itachi's awareness is irrelevant here when sensors had problems in the mist as well. As well as someone who has shown the ability to react to things he can't see.

I'm not replying you repeating the same thing over and over again. Btw I gave my point on the first page in how they could win..Read that if you're bored Lol.

 

[LustyLover]

You want me to reply to do whole thing but I'm not doing that. You ignored my previous post with the clones because I completely owned you there.

Now you come up with essays repeating nearly the same thing and you want a full reply? Loom for someone else to do that.

You were the one not reading sir Lol. Did I say you said he was a sensor? The reason why I don't even want t reply is because you never sit down to analyze one's post. You just jump in.

Itachi's awareness is irrelevant here when sensors had problems in the mist as well. As well as someone who has shown the ability to react to things he can't see.

I'm not replying you repeating the same thing over and over again. Btw I gave my point on the first page in how they could win..Read that if you're bored Lol.

So, in other words, you give up due to ineptitude.

Good to know.

 

[Haizaki]

Itachi doesn't need to give them chakra AND use it to turn the crows into a replica of him. Give me an actual counter please.

Lmaooo no I don't want to waste my time...Sorry I'm really tired of this. It's just too much and there's ignorance involved.

I've shat on this clone talk as well. You didn't even reply to it.