Strongest opponent Sakura can defeat

[Killua Zoldyck]

This is the dumbest post I've seen so far.

Aura this, Aura that. Completely irrelevant when here he had no aura on his hand

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but had around his body. You're trying to take advantage of the drawings Lol. You're not smart if you think so.

Not to mention, this isn't aura around his hand

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. That's the form of a tiger being released.

If you're going by the fact that he had to have aura around him before using his techniques, you're wrong

Gai in the 6th gate using Asakujaku with no aura

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Gai in the 6th gates using asakujaku with Aura around him

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You know what, this is pointless. Explain me this, how does Gai not having any Aura around his hands whilst in the 7th Gate when using Hirudora disapprove that Gai was in base when he used Hirudora because he only had aura around his hands.

No relevance

What the hell do you mean "no relevance", do you even understand what your saying or are you speaking out of your ass? You asked me why he has to go through pain to use the technique, I replied.

There's nothing to ignore when you haven't brought anything reasonable to the table. You're clearly wrong

But I am not.

No, he tried to smash it all the time. Why do you think Onoki was on his back?
The only punches who're obliterating a head in this manga are Gai's (8th gate) and maybe Sakura's (given how she managed to harm Kaguya it doesn't seem weird).
Ay is not one of those. He brakes bones, doesn't rip limbs off. Hell, Tsunade who's stronger and can break a Susanoo on her own, punched Orochimaru square in the face and the only thing out of place was his mask.

Oh really? Then why did he not use a regular punch? And Oonoki was on his back ONE time out of those 4 times he went for the chop on Susanoo. A chop is not a punch, so sure. I am not arguing wether Ei obliterates her head or not, I am arguing that Ei will CUT her head off. And no, Sakura ain't obliterating any heads btw. He has literally cut his own limb off, he has cut Hachibis horn and in one instance he almost entirely penetrated through Susanoo and hit Sasukes neck with his chop (Sasukes head would have been sent flying had Susanoo not cushioned the blow).

Because this is real life where he won't stop until there's a puddle of ketchup on the ground and characters get rip apart everytime they get a chance...
If that was Kishi's logic then some fights in Naruto would be really boring to see. For example, Gai goes gates (doesn't matter how many, he's already faster in base), grabs a kunai and shunshins for Kisame's neck. GG, no re. But that's not how it works.

Why would he stop when he notices that she is healing and is getting back up? I am talking about the second time he punches her (assuming he still does not go for decapitation). He wont simply stand and watch as she recovers and gets back up.

Trust me, i'm not that guy. I already explained why i can't picture him cutting whoever it is.
I repeat, he never cut anything in the midst of a battle. He doesn't even have a piercing or cutting jutsu.

He has cut Hachibi's horn. His chop is basically a Chidori with forced power behind it. Ei's arm is more durable then Sakura's neck, I don't know why this is even being debatabed tbh.

Kisame's body (w/ or w/o water in the middle) isn't as durable as Susanoo either and his body wasn't torn apart after getting hit by Hirudora, now was it?
Mei's mist was capable of melting Susanoo, yet Sasuke's arm didn't start to melt and fall off, it got burnt instead. Does that mean his body > Susanoo?
Kishi doesn't draw everything to the scale.

The Hirudora that hit Kisame was MUCH weaker because Daikouden almost entirely offset it.
Susanoo is a manifestation of Sasukes will, he was extremely weakened at that point, his Susanoo was not stable. Furthermore, Susanoo was in the open while Sasuke was inside it, he did not receive as much damage.

I fail to see what your getting at with these examples.

 

[Haizaki]

You know what, this is pointless. Explain me this, how does Gai not having any Aura around his hands whilst in the 7th Gate when using Hirudora disapprove that Gai was in base when he used Hirudora because he only had aura around his hands.

Lmaoo I like this guy..it's pointless because you have no reply Loooooool

Refer to the Aura discussion with the 6th gate..I'll repost AGAIN

If you're going by the fact that he had to have aura around him before using his techniques, you're wrong

Gai in the 6th gate using Asakujaku with no aura

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Gai in the 6th gates using asakujaku with Aura around him

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Any explanations??? Nope there isn't.

What the hell do you mean "no relevance", do you even understand what your saying or are you speaking out of your ass? You asked me why he has to go through pain to use the technique, I replied.

Common sense Common sense.. You do have it but you're not applying it

I did ask why Gai has to go through pain all the time by opening the gates but you gave me a sill reply. This was your reply: "Already told you that he feels exhaustion when using Hirudora"
How in the world does this make sense? He feels exhaustion after using it Lol Oh boyy. So he feels exhaustion after using it but he opens the gate which makes him feel worse Lol? How does this make sense?

But I am not.

You are.

 

[Killua Zoldyck]

Lmaoo I like this guy..it's pointless because you have no reply Loooooool

Refer to the Aura discussion with the 6th gate..I'll repost AGAIN

If you're going by the fact that he had to have aura around him before using his techniques, you're wrong

Gai in the 6th gate using Asakujaku with no aura

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Gai in the 6th gates using asakujaku with Aura around him

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Any explanations??? Nope there isn't.

Don't apply 6th Gated Concepts to 7th Gated ones. Gai outright states

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who opens the 7th Gate sweats green sweat. So why did he not sweat green sweat? Why was there only an aura round his hands. Why did he not activate the 7th Gate? Did he just skip the activation process?

Common sense Common sense.. You do have it but you're not applying it

I did ask why Gai has to go through pain all the time by opening the gates but you gave me a sill reply. This was your reply: "Already told you that he feels exhaustion when using Hirudora"
How in the world does this make sense? He feels exhaustion after using it Lol Oh boyy. So he feels exhaustion after using it but he opens the gate which makes him feel worse Lol? How does this make sense?

Yet again, why are you spouting this nonsense? In what way does "common sense" apply to what I just said lol.

The Gates enhance everything , Hirudora is a linear attack. If it fails, the opponent has a chance at a counterattack against an tired base Gai.

 

[Haizaki]

Don't apply 6th Gated Concepts to 7th Gated ones. Gai outright states

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who opens the 7th Gate sweats green sweat. So why did he not sweat green sweat? Why was there only an aura round his hands. Why did he not activate the 7th Gate? Did he just skip the activation process?

Applying 6th gates concept is a way of debunking this? Nothing there changes the fact that the aura is irrelevant to the attack as you spout a lot of Bullcrap.

Base Gai here has no aura but upon opening it, there's an Aura around him

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Gai in that scan wasn't fully shown. Nothing at all shows base Gai used Hirudora. Don't be silly. It was off screen

Yet again, why are you spouting this nonsense? In what way does "common sense" apply to what I just said lol.

The Gates enhance everything , Hirudora is a linear attack. If it fails, the opponent has a chance at a counterattack against an tired base Gai.

I should be asking why you're talking rubbish.

The gates enhances everything Lol? This is contrary to what you said earlier. The gates enhances everything so that's why he uses it with gates all the time. Why then did he use it without gates against Madara if this nonsense is correct? The gates pushes him above his limit...He even said to use weaker attacks, you need to open the third.

What does counterattack have to do with this you clown? You've failed yet again to give an explanation to why he opens the gates every time before using a technique.

 

[Killua Zoldyck]

Applying 6th gates concept is a way of debunking this? Nothing there changes the fact that the aura is irrelevant to the attack as you spout a lot of Bullcrap.

Base Gai here has no aura but upon opening it, there's an Aura around him

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Gai in that scan wasn't fully shown. Nothing at all shows base Gai used Hirudora. Don't be silly. It was off screen

I will say it again, don't apply mechanics of the 6th gate to mechanics of the 7th gate. They all have different mechanics. Base Gai opens the 6th gate and aura appears around him.

Gai's hands and arms where shown, that's really all that matters. Since we see that he did not have aura around his arms, but he did with his hands.

I should be asking why you're talking rubbish.

The gates enhances everything Lol? This is contrary to what you said earlier. The gates enhances everything so that's why he uses it with gates all the time. Why then did he use it without gates against Madara if this nonsense is correct? The gates pushes him above his limit...He even said to use weaker attacks, you need to open the third.

What does counterattack have to do with this you clown? You've failed yet again to give an explanation to why he opens the gates every time before using a technique.

You really don't know what you talk about, read what you write before you post it.

When have I ever said that the Gates do not enhance everything? Once again, your speaking out of your ass. He used it without gates because he was too injured to activate the gates.

You are ridiculously ignorant, read before you reply. If I notice that you used your ass to type for you in your next post, I won't be relying to it.

 

[Haizaki]

I will say it again, don't apply mechanics of the 6th gate to mechanics of the 7th gate. They all have different mechanics. Base Gai opens the 6th gate and aura appears around him.

Gai's hands and arms where shown, that's really all that matters. Since we see that he did not have aura around his arms, but he did with his hands.

I will say it again, stop talking rubbish..

Gai's arms and hands were shown but his fully body wasn't because it would contradict the manga..stop ignoring the fact that he was shown with Aura in the 6th. He also has Aura in the the 8th..it's not just the 7th. Also I wonder what Aura this is? This isn't the 7th

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I wonder what Aura this was, that's not the 6th

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with this aura nonsense.

Not to mention, I showed you a scan of him drawn with No aura around him

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Does that mean there wasn't aura around him.. You taking advantage of the drawings.

You really don't know what you talk about, read what you write before you post it.

No that's not the case...It's hard for me to say but you're really daft.

When have I ever said that the Gates do not enhance everything? Once again, your speaking out of your ass. He used it without gates because he was too injured to activate the gates.

You implied so. This was what you said... "Already told you that he feels exhaustion when using Hirudora " He feels exhaustion so why would he be using it with the gates when he'll get even more exhausted. Use your damn brain and stop speculating. If one could use techniques without the gates which puts the user in a worse situation, he would use it without them. He would also eventually feel exhaustion so your point doesn't make any sense..

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The base Hirudora according to you anyways, was strong enough to destroy Susanoo? Complete rubbish.

You are ridiculously ignorant, read before you reply. If I notice that you used your ass to type for you in your next post, I won't be relying to it.

Such a problematic child...You have been the one talking bullcrap ever since.

I wonder why he opened the 8th gates to use Evening Elephant and NM when he could just use it in base in order not to die.

Nonsense..show a scan of his fully body using it and then maybe I'll take you seriously.

 

[Haizaki]

Let me just make this clear. Didn't want to go through all these but I have no choice. I'm just going to use points from both the manga and the DB

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You can see there. It says: The principle of this Taijutsu is to rapidly increase the body's abilityby opening the "Eight gates" up to and including the 6th gates

There are things to learn from that,

- All the other gates below the 6th have to be to be opened

-The technique would only work when Gai has opened up to the 6th gate

-At the very bottom of the screenshot, you'll see Gai opens the first six gates.

Did you see anything like he can use it without the the gates? No sir. Did you see anything that implies so? No sir.

Then again, we have this:

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You saw it yourself....

- Initial lotus is done by just opening the first gates

- By opening the third, you enter into the Extreme Lotus



My point? The point is he requires the gates to use those weaker techniques, why then would he not require the gates to use a stronger one? Lol

He said it himself, Asakujak doesn't compare to Daytime Tiger

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(Second box by the left)

Let's read what Yamato also said here:

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That's one of Gai's Celestial Gates Attack, Afternoon Tiger.

If you still disagree with me, then I have nothing else to use as there's no denying anymore.