[Question] Questions about Death Note

[Fuzzy Panda]

So
Can someone control another person with a DN to make it kill a person that only the one being controlled knows?

Hmm i'm not completely sure. If the command is "kill your brother and then kill yourself (or whatever)", I think that should be possible even if the one controlling doesn't know brother's face. I believe you only have to know face if the one controlling is also writing the brother's name in DN.

 

[The Necromancer]

What if the one controlling knew the face?
It would be cool if for example Light made someone that knew L's face to get the Death Note, make the contract, then kill L in front of the others and then suicide, making Light leave with no suspicious

That would work. For instance, if Misa knew what L looked like, and Light knew L's name, then he could tell Misa to write L's name in the Death note while picturing L's face, even if she did not know L's name to begin with.

 

[Dãrth1]

That would work. For instance, if Misa knew what L looked like, and Light knew L's name, then he could tell Misa to write L's name in the Death note while picturing L's face, even if she did not know L's name to begin with.

Kira had so much possibilities lol, Death Note really is an epic manga/anime

 

[Rokudaime Hokage Naruto]

You made me feel like watching DN again now.

 

[Tera Path]

I want to ask something too
Can the Note control the target to make it hurt another person?

No it cannot.

Unless both of their names are written in it and they are both instructed to do so, it will not work.
The Notebook can only kill the persons whose name is written in it, if you write ''Person A will launch a nuke to Afghanistan and then hang himself'' Person A will just die of a heart-attack.
This is written in the Death Note itself.

I'm not sure about question 1, but seemingly no since Light managed to kill over 300.000 people with 2-3 notebooks while using entire pages for 1 name or just ripping some out and not writing everything on it.
And as far as I know, it has never been stated that you ask a shinigami for more pages, ever.
Question #2. Yes it can be destroyed.

That would work. For instance, if Misa knew what L looked like, and Light knew L's name, then he could tell Misa to write L's name in the Death note while picturing L's face, even if she did not know L's name to begin with.

Do you not remember, this is what Light was trying to accomplish the entire time but L outwitted him.
The moment that Misa knew L's real name and Light called Misa to ask for his real name to kill him, it turns out L arrested Misa on the suspicions of being the 2nd Kira and he also stole her cellphone.

And when she was released she lost all of her memories.

 

[The Necromancer]

No it cannot.

Unless both of their names are written in it and they are both instructed to do so, it will not work.
The Notebook can only kill the persons whose name is written in it, if you write ''Person A will launch a nuke to Afghanistan and then hang himself'' Person A will just die of a heart-attack.
This is written in the Death Note itself.

I'm not sure about question 1, but seemingly no since Light managed to kill over 300.000 people with 2-3 notebooks while using entire pages for 1 name or just ripping some out and not writing everything on it.
Question #2. Yes it can be destroyed.



Do you not remember, this is what Light was trying to accomplish the entire time but L outwitted him.
The moment that Misa knew L's real name and Light called Misa to ask for his real name to kill him, it turns out L arrested Misa on the suspicions of being the 2nd Kira and he also stole her cellphone.

And when she was released she lost all of her memories.

Yes, but Misa was going to write it willingly. My scenario would work with anyone in the world who knew his face and had a Death Note.

 

[Tera Path]

Yes, but Misa was going to write it willingly. My scenario would work with anyone in the world who knew his name.

Wouldn't work.

Even if Light made someone that knew L's face do the contract that person would have to look at L again to know his real name.
Then the only way to kill L would for that person to tell the name to Light, that person writing the name itself it the Death Note probably wouldn't work because that is counted as killing someone else, and you can't control someone and make them kill someone else.

 

[The Necromancer]

Wouldn't work.

Even if Light made someone that knew L's face do the contract that person would have to look at L again to know his real name.
Then the only way to kill L would for that person to tell the name to Light, that person writing the name itself it the Death Note probably wouldn't work because that is counted as killing someone else, and you can't control someone and make them kill someone else.

No. Light can instruct them to write L's name in the DN so long as he knows it. They don't have to be aware of his name, so long as they visualize his face.

 

[Tera Path]

No. Light can instruct them to write L's name in the DN so long as he knows it. They don't have to be aware of his name, so long as they visualize his face.

That would count as killing someone else so he can not to instruct them to do so, the person who he is controlling will simply die of a heart attack.

As I said, the only way out of this is for the controlled target to tell Light what L's real name is.

 

[The Necromancer]

That would count as killing someone else so he can not to instruct them to do so, the person who he is controlling will simply die of a heart attack.

As I said, the only way out of this is for the controlled target to tell Light what L's real name is.

Where is that rule written? Do you have a scan or something?

 

[Tera Path]

Where is that rule written? Do you have a scan or something?

I'll have to read through the entire notebook but I'll find you a scan, just wait a bit.
I'll edit it into this post.

Oh look what I found, it's not what I'm looking for Necromancer but it is an answer to OP's question.

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[The Necromancer]

I'll have to read through the entire notebook but I'll find you a scan, just wait a bit.
I'll edit it into this post.

Thaaaaaaaaaaanks.

 

[Tera Path]

Thaaaaaaaaaaanks.

You know what, I like getting post count so I'll make a new post

Here it is.
2nd rule, this is page 20.

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So, in theory what you said shouldn't even work because it will lead to L's death.
It's not the intent of the Death Note to kill L because his name isn't written in it.
But then again, I'm not all too sure myself.

 

[The Necromancer]

You know what, I like getting post count so I'll make a new post

Here it is.
2nd rule, this is page 20.

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So, in theory what you said shouldn't even work because it will lead to L's death.
It's not the intent of the Death Note to kill L because his name isn't written in it.
But then again, I'm not all too sure myself.

Interesting.... Hmm. But I wonder about pregnant women... How would it work there? Surely there are loopholes Light could exploit.

Technically, I think in this scenario it could be possible because a separate DN is being used... **** man, I don't know.

 

[Tera Path]

Interesting.... Hmm. But I wonder about pregnant women... How would it work there? Surely there are loopholes Light could exploit.

Technically, I think in this scenario it could be possible because a separate DN is being used... **** man, I don't know.

Pregnant women shouldn't even be able to be killed by the Death Note I think.
I remember reading a rule that said that children under a certain amount of days (I think it was 500-800 days) can not be killed by the Death Note, so if you kill the mother the child will die.

I'd be pretty impressed if there were some major loopholes because I haven't discovered any in this series, and if I had I've long forgotten them.

 

[The Necromancer]

Pregnant women shouldn't even be able to be killed by the Death Note I think.
I remember reading a rule that said that children under a certain amount of days (I think it was 500-800 days) can not be killed by the Death Note, so if you kill the mother the child will die.

I'd be pretty impressed if there were some major loopholes because I haven't discovered any in this series, and if I had I've long forgotten them.

But you're not selecting the child to die, just the mother. That's like killing a man who provides food for his family. It's not direct enough for the DN to fail imo.

 

[Tera Path]

But you're not selecting the child to die, just the mother. That's like killing a man who provides food for his family. It's not direct enough for the DN to fail imo.

That's slightly different.
The mother is bearing the child, literally, physically, her death will cause the death of the child.
Still, it's a valid point that you made but I don't think that's enough of a reason for the Death Note to kill the pregnant woman.

What you stated will indirectly cause their deaths, not directly unlike the pregnant woman dieing.
And the rule of not being able to kill children under 500-800 days is still valid with the pregnant woman, not with the man and his family.

 

[The Necromancer]

That's slightly different.
The mother is bearing the child, literally, physically, her death will cause the death of the child.
Still, it's a valid point that you made but I don't think that's enough of a reason for the Death Note to kill the pregnant woman.

What you stated will indirectly cause their deaths, not directly unlike the pregnant woman dieing.
And the rule of not being able to kill children under 500-800 days is still valid with the pregnant woman, not with the man and his family.

I guess the fact that the DN (or Shinigami) is sentient enough to know when a Shinigami saves a life by ending another proves that it would know whether this loophole would be exploited or not. If that's the case then you would be right.

 

[Tera Path]

I guess the fact that the DN (or Shinigami) is sentient enough to know when a Shinigami saves a life by ending another proves that it would know whether this loophole would be exploited or not. If that's the case then you would be right.

The fact/rule that a Shinigami dies when he kills someone to save another life is only valid when the Shinigami likes/is in favour of the person that it saved.
I think that's what you stated, right?
My mind is kind of failing me these days.

 

[The Necromancer]

The fact/rule that a Shinigami dies when he kills someone to save another life is only valid when the Shinigami likes/is in favour of the person that it saved.
I think that's what you stated, right?
My mind is kind of failing me these days.

Yes. What I was saying was the fact that that is a rule, and that the DN knows when such a rule is followed, probably means that it would also know if a loophole like my previous scenarios was going on, and could cause the writer to have a heart attack.