BSM Naruto vs BM Minato

[Bronze]

The kurama avatars tails are the most durable part, hence why the

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, which is clealry not as durable as the tails, and this doesnt help ur case at all, since SM is known to increase strength and durability, therefore narutos avatar is more durable than minatos

It does not matter. As long as Minato is teleporting all of Naruto's attacks back at him, durability is invalid. If so, Minato will aim at Kurama's own body using a TBB in conjunction with FTG to attack Bijuu Mode's main body. And the results have been seen when Kurama was heavily injured by Naruto's Futon: Rasenshruiken. [

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] Yet again, does not matter. Until Sage Mode shows a gap in durability, I have no reason to believe the gap between their durability is massive.​

Without any additional prep time, minatos FTG is not doing anything at all,
the sheer AOE and magnitude of their attacks would destroy any of the marked locations,
meaning that minato wont have anywhere to teleport his attacks at all, nor is the S/T barrier being suitable against TBB barrages,
furthermore naruto can also send his clones to fire offf FRS and COFRS as well as rasengan barrages whilst the real one fires off TBB therefore attacking minato from multiple directions and rendering his S/T moot, and makiing him unable to evade his attacks due to FTG being bypassed,
and narutos attacks are much stronger thanks to the boost of SM

moreover naruto has full intel here, meaning he can send his clones and get them to use Frog Kata on Minato to overwhelm him ,and can also use Frog Call to immobilise minato thus allowing naruto to finish him off

Minato can prepare markings through Bunshin's. [

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] Good luck with destroying the markings, because they don't disappear. [

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] Not to mention you have no feats that Naruto's AOE are enough to cover something as big as the Juubi or the potential radius Minato can create through the markings. So, I'm going to need to see some of that. @Bold, and what exact reason you have that it's not suitable? Oh wait, nothing. Good luck with the Bunshin's; Minato can create his own clones as well to engage against Naruto's. The FTG doesn't get bypassed by Naruto's AOE, as you have yet to show how much area they can cover; and they have no feats to show they can cover something as big as the Juubi.

Full Intel doesn't help if you have no preprepared a full defence, in which case here, Naruto lacks. The fact that you think Frog Kata is going to overwhelm a Bijuu Mode Minato is as laughable as your whole reply. Summoning the two Great Toads requires a ritual, which Naruto is not stated to have.​

 

[Gold Lightning]

Naruto wins this

--his firepower and durability are much higher than minato thanks to SM

--he creates many KB and gets them to fire off FRS and COFRS each of them which shit on minatos rasengans whilst the original fires SM TBB that are superior to minatos

--FTG really doesn't make a difference due to the sheer magnitude of their firepower as their AOE easily bypasses it's limits, and with minato lacking prep here, he wont have anywhere to teleporrt the TBB away even if he uses the S/T barrier, not to mention that attacks from multiple directions can counter the S/T barrier with ease

--narutos link with kurama is also better than minatos, due to using his BM more times than minato meaning that his BM would last longer than minatos. And if minato falls to base. He gets wrecked with ease

--frog call can also be used to immobilize minato and allow naruto to land a blow. Or frog song can also be used to finish minato off

youre giving Naruto toad feats when minato also uses e same toads? What kind of logic is that? Where I'm the conditions does it say toads are only for Naruto?

 

[Bogard]

--he creates many KB and gets them to fire off FRS and COFRS each of them which shit on minatos rasengans whilst the original fires SM TBB that are superior to minatos

We've never seen Naruto being capable to do such a combo without Kyubi molding chakra for him after a long time. It's not even sure he would still be alive by the time to make it. Not to mention they both have Kyubi, so Minato could create clones and spam his techniques as well. Not to mention, TBB > FRS or COFRS. Minato doesn't need them. All he has to do is continuous TBB if Naruto tries that and in this case, he is tossed considering he has no defense outside his avatar shield

--FTG really doesn't make a difference due to the sheer magnitude of their firepower as their AOE easily bypasses it's limits, and with minato lacking prep here, he wont have anywhere to teleporrt the TBB away even if he uses the S/T barrier, not to mention that attacks from multiple directions can counter the S/T barrier with ease

Minato showed the capacity to toss his kunais in boundaries exceeding the Jubi by far, exceeding even an island and that was in base. In Biju-mode, he can definitely throw it farther. It's not like Naruto would start fights with TBB. The moment the seals are away, no matter their range, Minato could dodge it anytime. Distance isn't a problem when he can travel Kumo to Konoha in an instant without his arms

Besides, S/T barrier has a redirection time. Minato can easily make the barrier first, absorb the attack before throwing the kunai in Naruto's direction so that he receives the full blunt of his own attack. For the number, while being a problem, what stops him from using clones for that again?

--narutos link with kurama is also better than minatos, due to using his BM more times than minato meaning that his BM would last longer than minatos. And if minato falls to base. He gets wrecked with ease

But during the fight, the timelimit didn't seem so different and unlike Naruto who was reverted in base the same instant god tree branches absorbed his chakra, Minato still remained in KCM, so i really wonder who has better link than who. Furthermore, you can't wreck a hiraishin user. He can easily teleport to another location to build up chakra

--frog call can also be used to immobilize minato and allow naruto to land a blow. Or frog song can also be used to finish minato off

And obviously frog call is Naruto's monopole considering he is the only one who can summon frogs

 

[ARGUS]

It does not matter. As long as Minato is teleporting all of Naruto's attacks back at him, durability is invalid. If so, Minato will aim at Kurama's own body using a TBB in conjunction with FTG to attack Bijuu Mode's main body. And the results have been seen when Kurama was heavily injured by Naruto's Futon: Rasenshruiken. [

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] Yet again, does not matter. Until Sage Mode shows a gap in durability, I have no reason to believe the gap between their durability is massive.[/indent][/FONT]

@Bold - where is he teleporting the attacks to?
Minato is not teleporting attacks back at naruto if he lacks the markings,
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, thereby eradicating all the markings and the marked location, which counters minatos FTG based moveset with ease

Take the difference in durability from SM naruto and Base Naruto,
now apply the same scale in the kurama avatar,
not to mention that with FTG being nullified due to the AOE, and narutos having far superior firepower as well as a better link with kurama means that his victory is certain

Minato can prepare markings through Bunshin's. [

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] Good luck with destroying the markings, because they don't disappear. [

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] Not to mention you have no feats that Naruto's AOE are enough to cover something as big as the Juubi or the potential radius Minato can create through the markings. So, I'm going to need to see some of that.

Lol, by the time minato sets up his markings, he is left open for naruto to attack
naruto can send off his clones to fire off COFRS, Rasengan barrages, FRS, and TBB all of them which can easily cover the range and overwhelm minato regardless of what you state,

and here is the proof,

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and the

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, a COFRS would be only larger
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now amplify the TBB with SM, and we have an even stronger bomb with a larger AOE

naruto can easily bypass the limits of FTG, and with minato also being forced to retaliate otherwise he is just getting killed, the magnitude will just increase and render his FTG useless

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, which clearly have a huge AOE, therefore ur claim of narutos attacks not covering the range is just wrong,

@Bold, and what exact reason you have that it's not suitable? Oh wait, nothing. Good luck with the Bunshin's; Minato can create his own clones as well to engage against Naruto's. The FTG doesn't get bypassed by Naruto's AOE, as you have yet to show how much area they can cover; and they have no feats to show they can cover something as big as the Juubi.

Because S/T barrier is NOT teleporting attacks from multiple directions (due to the nature of the jutsu) which naruto can do so very easily thanks to his clones and just attack him from behind, nor is S/T barrier working when minato has nowhere to teleport the attack to,
therefore its not suitable,

i have already shown the AOE of narutos attacks, and the onslaught against naruto and minato would just make it worse for minato, due to his markings getting destroyed,
and please, minato has nowhere near the KB feats of naruto,, nor are his rasengans anywhere near as powerful as narutos SM infused Rasengan barrages, FRS and COFRS

Full Intel doesn't help if you have no preprepared a full defence, in which case here, Naruto lacks. The fact that you think Frog Kata is going to overwhelm a Bijuu Mode Minato is as laughable as your whole reply. Summoning the two Great Toads requires a ritual, which Naruto is not stated to have.

Lol with full intel, naruto can perfectly counter FTG,, and render it useless
and frog katas are still overwhelming minato in his human form, which was what i stated
and @Bold - coming back with the usual insults aye, and then u claim that my reply is laughable Lol

and Prove it that it requires a ritual.
till then naruto has an advantage in every category,,
and frog call to immobilise minato jjust makes it easier for him

 

[KidGamer65]

^ Naruto using Bijuu Dama, and clones using barrages of COFRS, FRS, and Rasengan Barrages all at once is fanfic at its finest.

 

[ARGUS]

We've never seen Naruto being capable to do such a combo without Kyubi molding chakra for him after a long time. It's not even sure he would still be alive by the time to make it. Not to mention they both have Kyubi, so Minato could create clones and spam his techniques as well. Not to mention, TBB > FRS or COFRS. Minato doesn't need them. All he has to do is continuous TBB if Naruto tries that and in this case, he is tossed considering he has no defense outside his avatar shield

Minato is no where near as proficient in KB compared to naruto,
his rasengans are also nothing infront of narutos FRS and COFRS that he can fire through his clones
and his TBB that are infused with SM are clearly superior to Minatos normal TBB,
naruto has superior firepower and defense compared to minato,

and @Bold - not sure if serious, naruto is never dying that early,

Minato showed the capacity to toss his kunais in boundaries exceeding the Jubi by far, exceeding even an island and that was in base. In Biju-mode, he can definitely throw it farther. It's not like Naruto would start fights with TBB. The moment the seals are away, no matter their range, Minato could dodge it anytime. Distance isn't a problem when he can travel Kumo to Konoha in an instant without his arms

I have already proved that naruto can bypasss the range of FTG with ease,
and if minato tries to fire off TBB as well, then the magnitude will just increase, and just destroy the marked locations
@bold - not sure what you mean by that ,but minato already had prepped his markings in both the cases, he doesnt have any prep here therefore its not happening here

Besides, S/T barrier has a redirection time. Minato can easily make the barrier first, absorb the attack before throwing the kunai in Naruto's direction so that he receives the full blunt of his own attack. For the number, while being a problem, what stops him from using clones for that again?

No, the S/T barrier is not like kamui to be able to store the bomb in an another dimension
all it does is jjust teleport the object to the assigned location towards a marked location
he can use the clones again, but narutos clones have superior firepower thats all

youre giving Naruto toad feats when minato also uses e same toads? What kind of logic is that? Where I'm the conditions does it say toads are only for Naruto?

Becuase naruto has acutally fought with ma&pa yet minato hasnt
annd because naruto actually has SM and can merge with them to keep them safe

 

[Bronze]

@Bold - where is he teleporting the attacks to?
Minato is not teleporting attacks back at naruto if he lacks the markings,
and the

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, thereby eradicating all the markings and the marked location, which counters minatos FTG based moveset with ease

Take the difference in durability from SM naruto and Base Naruto,
now apply the same scale in the kurama avatar,
not to mention that with FTG being nullified due to the AOE, and narutos having far superior firepower as well as a better link with kurama means that his victory is certain

To his marked Kunai's, and he has large numbers of them: [

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], which he can throw to Naruto's position: [

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]. The scan you showed is Naruto's TBB AND THE 5 Bijuu's TBB. I asked for Naruto's feat, not in conjunction with 5 Bijuu's. I'm not going to repeat what the manga made clear: FTG markings do not disappear. What durability difference? Sage Mode Madara was still stabbed by Sasuke's sword, and his base form was stabbed by Hashirama.​

, by the time minato sets up his markings, he is left open for naruto to attack
naruto can send off his clones to fire off COFRS, Rasengan barrages, FRS, and TBB all of them which can easily cover the range and overwhelm minato regardless of what you state,

and here is the proof,
base narutos rasengan barrage completely destroyed the forest forming jukai kotan
and the AOE of a normal FRS is this large, a COFRS would be only larger
and a normal TBB from inferior bijuu completely turns the mountains into paste,,
and a larger TBB has the AOE that dwarves mountains,
now amplify the TBB with SM, and we have an even stronger bomb with a larger AOE

naruto can easily bypass the limits of FTG, and with minato also being forced to retaliate otherwise he is just getting killed, the magnitude will just increase and render his FTG useless
naruto can also form the TBB barrages rather quickly, which clearly have a huge AOE, therefore ur claim of narutos attacks not covering the range is just wrong,

It's Minato's Bunshin who are preparing the markings, and not the real Minato; thus he is not left-open. The bold is nothing but fan-fiction. All of your comparison doesn't show they're destroying the markings, as Minato stated they don't disappear. Thus, your argument is invalid. You keep spouting Naruto bypasses the limits of FTG, yet you don't provide how he will. Yet again, you don't know how much area Minato can potentially cover by markings. So, I'll show you how big he can:

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. It's the red circle showing the AOE.

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So, pal, your whole comparison is nothing but fallacious; and you have no understanding of Minato's capabilities at all.​

Because S/T barrier is NOT teleporting attacks from multiple directions (due to the nature of the jutsu) which naruto can do so very easily thanks to his clones and just attack him from behind, nor is S/T barrier working when minato has nowhere to teleport the attack to,
therefore its not suitable,

i have already shown the AOE of narutos attacks, and the onslaught against naruto and minato would just make it worse for minato, due to his markings getting destroyed,
and please, minato has nowhere near the KB feats of naruto,, nor are his rasengans anywhere near as powerful as narutos SM infused Rasengan barrages, FRS and COFRS

Yet again, I tell you to understand Minato's abilities. The barrier is not just limited to himself; he has his Chakra links with his Bunshin's to perform it. And you have yet to show me scans of Naruto throwing attacks from all direction.

Your whole comparison is based on fallacy. I already shat on it. Try again.​

with full intel, naruto can perfectly counter FTG,, and render it useless
and frog katas are still overwhelming minato in his human form, which was what i stated
and @Bold - coming back with the usual insults aye, and then u claim that my reply is laughable

and Prove it that it requires a ritual.
till then naruto has an advantage in every category,,
and frog call to immobilise minato jjust makes it easier for him

And how does Naruto can perfectly counter and render it useless? I have yet to see your amazing arguments. Not according to my premise, which Minato will be remaining in his Bijuu Mode; thus your Frog Kata argument is invalid. Go reread the databook of Jiraiya's. It states he used a ritual to summon the 2 Great Sages.​

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Now, why is your whole reply laughable? First, you claim Naruto can use TBB, giant Futon: Rasenshuriken, multiple Odama Rasengan all at the same time. Second, your AOE comparison are completely false, and you even bring an attack collided by Naruto's and the 6 Bijuu's, despite I requested Naruto's. Third, you literally have no understanding of Minato's abilities at all.​

 

[Bogard]

Minato is no where near as proficient in KB compared to naruto,
his rasengans are also nothing infront of narutos FRS and COFRS that he can fire through his clones
and his TBB that are infused with SM are clearly superior to Minatos normal TBB,
naruto has superior firepower and defense compared to minato,

Dafuq? Minato and Naruto have the same skill in KB. Minato can even implement that with Hiraishin, Goshun Mawashi or his senkou chourinbu technique. The difference betweeen both is just in their usage of the technique. Naruto mainly use clones for diversions and outnumber the opponent when Minato is more calculative with them, only using them depending on the circumstance. Doesn't mean however that if need to be, he can't

And why does it matter if rasengan is inferior to FRS or not. Like i've said, FRS or COFRS doesn't matter when TBB > both and Minato can use TBBs and continuous ones at that, which are faster to cast than multiple FRS that requires clones and seals to be used beforehand. The time he does all that, he can be tossed by multiple TBB. The only thing that Naruto can overpower Minato with is with Sage TBB and even that is debatable especially against hiraishin and space time barrier

and @Bold - not sure if serious, naruto is never dying that early,

If he gets marked early i don't see why not. Don't forget not only Minato is faster than him, but with mountain level chakra arms, he can place his markings in any nearby location(or Naruto himself) anytime

I have already proved that naruto can bypasss the range of FTG with ease,
and if minato tries to fire off TBB as well, then the magnitude will just increase, and just destroy the marked locations
@bold - not sure what you mean by that ,but minato already had prepped his markings in both the cases, he doesnt have any prep here therefore its not happening here

He can bypass the range of FTG only if Minato doesn't have markings outside the boundaries. Minato usually start fighting by tossing kunais everywhere. There is nothing that stops Minato from tossing his kunais in mountain ranges and from there on, no matter how big or powerful the TBB he creates are, Minato could dodge them. For the bold i meant this:

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The kunais are clearly tossed in boundaries far beyond Jubi. BM Naruto's TBB didn't show that range

No, the S/T barrier is not like kamui to be able to store the bomb in an another dimension
all it does is jjust teleport the object to the assigned location towards a marked location
he can use the clones again, but narutos clones have superior firepower thats all

It has a redirection time like i've said. During the time Minato absorbed Jubi's Bijudama in the barrier, Minato had time to throw a kunai near Naruto and Sakura, jump over it, start a discussion, before the redirected Bijudama started reappearing outside the barrier's portal from the kunai he left middle ocean. That shows that during a bijudama redirection, he can easily toss a kunai(where the attack would be redirected) to an opponent

 

[Minato namikaze123]

hasn't minato tagged naruto before in the kyubbi attack...
if soo.. he won't last a sec...
if not then----
now offcourse they won't start fighting with their kurama avatars..at the beggining
cause they don't know each other (i'll assume tht)
it's like itachi starts with his susano..
they will check out each other's power's first in which naruto gets tagged n dies..even if naruto survives..
then he will get his ass punched with reflected back attacks via ST barrier .
if he can summon frogs even minato can summon them.
so naruto gets whooped...

ohh forgot something:- Thread/

 

[UzumakiWade]

Good matchup but the only way Minato could win is if he manages to tag Naruto with his FTG Mark.

Either Minato takes Naruto down with him or Naruto wins extreme high diff.

 

[Gold Lightning]

[FONT=ArialBecuase naruto has acutally fought with ma&pa yet minato hasnt
annd because naruto actually has SM and can merge with them to keep them safe [/FONT]

You have no idea if minato has fought with them before or not. The fact that minato knows sm and has trained with them before means that he's most likely fought with them. Besides, characters possess the same contract and you're being completely stupid if you think their toads will fight against people they're contracted to.

So what of Bunta? Who gets to use him, since both have summoned him, or are you gonna make up some stupid comment like, "since he's known Naruto more recently than minato, then Naruto gets him".

Toads are a complete non factor in this match up, and you even mentioning is stupid beyond belief.

 

[ARGUS]

To his marked Kunai's, and he has large numbers of them: [

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]. The scan you showed is Naruto's TBB AND THE 5 Bijuu's TBB. I asked for Naruto's feat, not in conjunction with 5 Bijuu's. I'm not going to repeat what the manga made clear: FTG markings do not disappear. What durability difference? Sage Mode Madara was still stabbed by Sasuke's sword, and his base form was stabbed by Hashirama.

Lol, Minato is not landing markings on a radius thats outside the AOE of their onslaught,
not to mention that with full intel, naruto can send his clones to and can get them to destroy any of the marked locations, or kunais,
and narutos TBB are still mountain vaporising, there needs to be no explanation,,
and the naruto vs 5 bijuu example was used if minato tries to retaliate through his own TBB, and the result would lead to all the marked kunai getting destroyed, and please, FTG markings are still placed on a certain location, if the entire kunai as well as the entire location is turned to paste, then the markings are sufferring the same fate

as for ur scans,
1. Lol, implying that minato can just ''throw'' kunais at a mountains worth of radius, furthermore with the starting distance of 40m, along with the fact that one TBB alone would have enough radius to destroy all of the kunais, makes that moot

2. as for ur second scan, naruto still has enough BSM reflexes to sense and then react to minatos attacks, so blitziing is not happening

@Bold - Lol, the kurama avatar is not getting scratched by a mere sword, not to mention that madaras SM =/= BSM, nor is his normal durability any where near the kurama avatars, apply the SM boost to the kurama avatar, and its obvious that narutos avatar is more durable and more powerful

It's Minato's Bunshin who are preparing the markings, and not the real Minato; thus he is not left-open. The bold is nothing but fan-fiction. All of your comparison doesn't show they're destroying the markings, as Minato stated they don't disappear. Thus, your argument is invalid. You keep spouting Naruto bypasses the limits of FTG, yet you don't provide how he will. Yet again, you don't know how much area Minato can potentially cover by markings. So, I'll show you how big he can:

Lol, all of the attacks would result in marked locations/kunais getting turned to paste, how on earth is that not destroyed, markings are still placed on kunais and locations, and if their locations are vaporised than so will the markings , you have no proof to back up ur point, yet all you say that my argument is invalid, going with the usual insults.
Lol, i gave you more than enough scans on how naruto bypasses the range,, you not even looking at the scans isnt really my fault

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Lol, all that the comparison shows is that the FTG range would be shat on,
the crater formed by Narutos and Bees TBB would be smaller than naruto and minato, due to both of the bijuu being much stronger as well as the former having SM thus amplifying the power,

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one or two TBB at most will vaporise that entire area,
and my point is even more emphasised since the crater formmed by narutos and bee TBB alone was much larger than the seals around juubi,
the onslaught against naruto and minato would just form craters even larger

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Irrelevant, completely irrelevant
since minato already had a prepped marking there prior to the fight
you not knowing that prepped markings are discarded in VS matches is just funny

So, pal, your whole comparison is nothing but fallacious; and you have no understanding of Minato's capabilities at all.

your comparison just contradicts ur own point,
you resorting to insults just shows ur incompetence

Yet again, I tell you to understand Minato's abilities. The barrier is not just limited to himself; he has his Chakra links with his Bunshin's to perform it. And you have yet to show me scans of Naruto throwing attacks from all direction.

Lol you tell me to understand minatos abilities yet ur the one lacking knowledge,
minato needs a certain location where he can teleport the assigned projectile, with no markings to teleport the attacks to, or no markings far enough to prevent himself,, just renders it useless,
and naruto can easily attack him from multiple directions,
his clones can attack him with flash shunshin, FRS, COFRS or Rasengan barrages,

Your whole comparison is based on fallacy. I already shat on it. Try again.

Lol no, as usual,, cocky, but wrong,
you didnt shit on anything

And how does Naruto can perfectly counter and render it useless? I have yet to see your amazing arguments. Not according to my premise, which Minato will be remaining in his Bijuu Mode; thus your Frog Kata argument is invalid. Go reread the databook of Jiraiya's. It states he used a ritual to summon the 2 Great Sages.

Lol
i have already explained how naruto can counter the range of FTG, and ur scans just emphasise my point even more
1. two or three TBB alone have enough radius to bypass the range, and the greater the attacks the father/son duo use, the more the range is getting bypassed,

2. minatos BM is not lasting longer than narutos, his link with kurama is not perfected yet , since he has only used BM once in the manga, therefore at most, his limit is 8 mins, naruto on the other hand has cleearly used it alot of times therefore he would also win in a battle of attrition and wreck him the moment he falls to base/KCM

3. Lol you stated that minato ca use his clones to attack naruto in CQC, therefore frog katas would stil work quite well, i never stated that the kurama avatar would get affected, not to mention that you seem to lack knowledge that there is a vast difference in durability of kurama avatar and the human form of BM, Lol

4. wow, instaed of providing scans, you claim that ''go read the databook'', reallly highlights ur argument

Now, why is your whole reply laughable? First, you claim Naruto can use TBB, giant Futon: Rasenshuriken, multiple Odama Rasengan all at the same time. Second, your AOE comparison are completely false, and you even bring an attack collided by Naruto's and the 6 Bijuu's, despite I requested Naruto's. Third, you literally have no understanding of Minato's abilities at all.

1. Naruto can use the FRS, or COR through his clones, and they are just diversions to allow naruto to prep his TBB, not to mention that these clones are perfect to counter FTG and attackn minato from multiple directions, naruto can use his TBB AFTERWARDS, andd if it takes alot of chakra then his clones will just go away,

2. Lol ur AOE comparison just contradicts ur argument, minato is never covering multiple mountain ranges within seconds thats pure fanfic, not to mentiion that you bring up the marking placed in the ocean, and claim that i dont know about minatos abilities Lol

3. says the guy who still hasnt given a proper explanation as to how minato wins, but just claims that S/T barrier will redirect his attacks, however the S/T barrier is not working on multiple projectiles, nor is it working when all the marked locations are eradicated,, i suggest you stop with the insults because it just shows that you are getting angry and highlights ur incompetence

 

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Lol, Minato is not landing markings on a radius thats outside the AOE of their onslaught,
not to mention that with full intel, naruto can send his clones to and can get them to destroy any of the marked locations, or kunais,
and narutos TBB are still mountain vaporising, there needs to be no explanation,,
and the naruto vs 5 bijuu example was used if minato tries to retaliate through his own TBB, and the result would lead to all the marked kunai getting destroyed, and please, FTG markings are still placed on a certain location, if the entire kunai as well as the entire location is turned to paste, then the markings are sufferring the same fate

Juubi dwarfs mountains no matter how badly you look at it and Minato placed markings around Juubi like it was nothing yet you think he can't place markings out side AOE of a TBB? hmm

 

[Unorthodox]

youre giving Naruto toad feats when minato also uses e same toads? What kind of logic is that? Where I'm the conditions does it say toads are only for Naruto?

its speculation that minato even knows the toads and anyways they would mostlikely listen to nardo because he's they're current user

^ Naruto using Bijuu Dama, and clones using barrages of COFRS, FRS, and Rasengan Barrages all at once is fanfic at its finest.

just because it didnt happen doesnt mean it cant current nardo has shown his clones can make strong varients of rasengans just like the original sm nardo with clones made a giant FRS kmc or bm clones does the same

OT - Naruto wins

 

[Valhorus]

its speculation that minato even knows the toads and anyways they would mostlikely listen to nardo because he's they're current user



just because it didnt happen doesnt mean it cant current nardo has shown his clones can make strong varients of rasengans just like the original sm nardo with clones made a giant FRS kmc or bm clones does the same

OT - Naruto wins

Really ? Minato knowing toads is speculation ? This is the most ridiculous thing I have read in the thread .

 

[lucario14]

Since minato can send naruto's bijuudama to a

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, I think minato wins. He'll be fast enough to set up kunai in different locations in bm mode. Once that's done he can defend himself from naruto's bijuudama and then fire his own. I don't think bsm naruto is durable enough to tank it's own most powerful attack.

 

[brandonsheen]

BSM Naruto solos

 

[KidGamer65]

just because it didnt happen doesnt mean it cant current nardo has shown his clones can make strong varients of rasengans just like the original sm nardo with clones made a giant FRS kmc or bm clones does the same

Kurama hands Naruto chakra, and tells him that this time it should be okay to use a few clones. His chakra is used to enter Bijuu Mode, to utilize the Kurama Avatar, and to use Ninjutsu. If Kurama tells him some Shadow Clones should be okay, there is zero reason to believe that he is going to spam a bunch of clones and use barrages of COFRS and FRS at the same time.

 

[Zee U]

If Minato still has his marking on Naruto the latter dies, horribly. With no markings it propends less in Minato's favor, but i see him winning more times than not.

 

[Bronze]

Lol, Minato is not landing markings on a radius thats outside the AOE of their onslaught,
not to mention that with full intel, naruto can send his clones to and can get them to destroy any of the marked locations, or kunais,
and narutos TBB are still mountain vaporising, there needs to be no explanation,,
and the naruto vs 5 bijuu example was used if minato tries to retaliate through his own TBB, and the result would lead to all the marked kunai getting destroyed, and please, FTG markings are still placed on a certain location, if the entire kunai as well as the entire location is turned to paste, then the markings are sufferring the same fate

You can spout your fan-fiction as much as you want, the markings do not disappear and that is that. Period.​

1. , implying that minato can just ''throw'' kunais at a mountains worth of radius, furthermore with the starting distance of 40m, along with the fact that one TBB alone would have enough radius to destroy all of the kunais, makes that moot

Shinsuusenju is bigger than multi-mountains, and T Bogard calculated the Juubi's size, which is estimated to be even bigger than the state itself. Minato was able to mark that size: [

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]. Keep spouting nonsense, they get crushed alongside your poor argument. Lel at one TBB can destroy all kunai's.​

2. as for ur second scan, naruto still has enough BSM reflexes to sense and then react to minatos attacks, so blitziing is not happening

More fan-fiction. Madara /=/ Naruto.​

@Bold - , the kurama avatar is not getting scratched by a mere sword, not to mention that madaras SM =/= BSM, nor is his normal durability any where near the kurama avatars, apply the SM boost to the kurama avatar, and its obvious that narutos avatar is more durable and more powerful

You didn't understand the point. In base, Madara with SM was penetrated by a sword. Madara is more durable than Naruto. Apply that example to BSM Naruto, and replace the sword with Minato's TBB; you have an attack that nukes Naruto off the face of earth.​

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all of the attacks would result in marked locations/kunais getting turned to paste, how on earth is that not destroyed, markings are still placed on kunais and locations, and if their locations are vaporised than so will the markings , you have no proof to back up ur point, yet all you say that my argument is invalid, going with the usual insults.
, i gave you more than enough scans on how naruto bypasses the range,, you not even looking at the scans isnt really my fault

Boy, you love fan-fiction. My proof comes from the manga: [

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]. Your so called ''proof'' comes from your ass. Markings do not disappear. The manga is not going to repeat itself. If you keep denying what's stated, it will be ignored.​

all that the comparison shows is that the FTG range would be shat on,
the crater formed by Narutos and Bees TBB would be smaller than naruto and minato, due to both of the bijuu being much stronger as well as the former having SM thus amplifying the power,

Who said Minato will throw his TBB at the moment Naruto charges his? That's not what my premise says. My premise is Minato teleporting Naruto's attacks. And the fact you think Sage Mode will offer greater boost than Hachibi's Chakra is what you call: Disgusting fanboy.​

one or two TBB at most will vaporise that entire area,
and my point is even more emphasised since the crater formmed by narutos and bee TBB alone was much larger than the seals around juubi,
the onslaught against naruto and minato would just form craters even larger

Not according to my premise, it's not happening. Not according to the manga, which FTG markings do not disappear.​

Irrelevant, completely irrelevant
since minato already had a prepped marking there prior to the fight
you not knowing that prepped markings are discarded in VS matches is just funny

I was making a point on the potential areas that Minato can make through the markings. Not to mention Kage Bunshin can do the job for him.​

your comparison just contradicts ur own point,
you resorting to insults just shows ur incompetence

Contradiction? You can't even discuss or debate logically. Every point you made for Naruto so far, has been nothing but fan-fiction and manga denial. So, good luck with the incompetence.​

you tell me to understand minatos abilities yet ur the one lacking knowledge,
minato needs a certain location where he can teleport the assigned projectile, with no markings to teleport the attacks to, or no markings far enough to prevent himself,, just renders it useless,
and naruto can easily attack him from multiple directions,
his clones can attack him with flash shunshin, FRS, COFRS or Rasengan barrages,

Which I already pointed out he can create markings with the help of Kage Bunshin. If needed, he can have his Kage Bunshin travel far and teleport using the Chakra link: [

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]. It's very good to read someone's argument before replying, you know. Those are all points I made in my previous posts, which shows you don't even read what I write. @Bold: You can post that in the fan-fiction section. In here, we use manga.​

no, as usual,, cocky, but wrong,
you didnt shit on anything

Too bad I did and done it again.​

i have already explained how naruto can counter the range of FTG, and ur scans just emphasise my point even more
1. two or three TBB alone have enough radius to bypass the range, and the greater the attacks the father/son duo use, the more the range is getting bypassed,

Read above.​

2. minatos BM is not lasting longer than narutos, his link with kurama is not perfected yet , since he has only used BM once in the manga, therefore at most, his limit is 8 mins, naruto on the other hand has cleearly used it alot of times therefore he would also win in a battle of attrition and wreck him the moment he falls to base/KCM

What evidence you have that his link with Yin Kurama is not perfect? Oh wait, none. Why didn't you say so? So until you provide evidence, I have no reason to.​

3. you stated that minato ca use his clones to attack naruto in CQC, therefore frog katas would stil work quite well, i never stated that the kurama avatar would get affected, not to mention that you seem to lack knowledge that there is a vast difference in durability of kurama avatar and the human form of BM,

Yet again, another proof you don't even read the person's post that you're replying to. I said if Naruto engages Minato in CQC, he'll get marked and that creates a link between Minato and Naruto; thus allowing Minato to teleport his attacks directly to the mark on Naruto's body. Frog Kata will never even work on Minato; not with the latter's speed.​

4. wow, instaed of providing scans, you claim that ''go read the databook'', reallly highlights ur argument

Finding databook is hard these days. Since you're the one requesting it, you're the one who needs to look for it.​

1. Naruto can use the FRS, or COR through his clones, and they are just diversions to allow naruto to prep his TBB, not to mention that these clones are perfect to counter FTG and attackn minato from multiple directions, naruto can use his TBB AFTERWARDS, andd if it takes alot of chakra then his clones will just go away,

Just like how he did during the war? Oh wait...nope. I'll post what KidGamer65 said:

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Kurama hands Naruto chakra, and tells him that this time it should be okay to use a few clones. His chakra is used to enter Bijuu Mode, to utilize the Kurama Avatar, and to use Ninjutsu. If Kurama tells him some Shadow Clones should be okay, there is zero reason to believe that he is going to spam a bunch of clones and use barrages of COFRS and FRS at the same time.

2. ur AOE comparison just contradicts ur argument, minato is never covering multiple mountain ranges within seconds thats pure fanfic, not to mentiion that you bring up the marking placed in the ocean, and claim that i dont know about minatos abilities

The Juubi's example disproves it. Minato's base Shunshin is already faster than Naruto's, and given that its boosted with Kurama's Chakra, he can very well cover all that distance in seconds.​

3. says the guy who still hasnt given a proper explanation as to how minato wins, but just claims that S/T barrier will redirect his attacks, however the S/T barrier is not working on multiple projectiles, nor is it working when all the marked locations are eradicated,, i suggest you stop with the insults because it just shows that you are getting angry and highlights ur incompetence

The irony coming from the guy who posts fan-fiction that Naruto can Futon: Rasenshuriken, barrage of Odama Rasengan and many more at the same time; Naruto's one or two TBB can destroys multi-mountains; Minato's markings disappear despite the manga's statement. The irony indeed.​