[Discussion] Kishi took on too big of a subject

[ShadowBandit]

Honestly, If Kishi would have just stuck with the idea of Naruto a struggling adolescent seeking acceptance and chasing a dream to be a hokage, he would have had a good lesson and ending about not giving up.

But Kishi took on a question, that the real world is struggling with right now. How to obtain world peace?

Some of his characters used ideas that masked what real world people have thought of.

Nagato's plan of peace isn't the same as our current wave a "big stick" plan. Since we let off those nukes in Japan, the world has been a pretty moderate peace but it won't be long till like Nagato said in the manga, people need to reminded of the fear.

But I digress, you think Kishi will come up with some great idea for world peace or will it have some lame fairy tail answer.

"Oh the wars over lets all be friends".....

 

[Naruto rikuduo mode]

i believe in kishi he have something great on his mind just believe in him, kishi will find a way to make peace and it will teach us a good lesson.

 

[slayerdanger]

Naruto will bring back Ninshu so people can understand each other. I thought this was foreshadowed.

 

[Jack Spicer]

I 100% agree. Some series are perfect for changing the world and ending wars and getting peace, but Naruto wasn't one of them. He could've been a step in that direction, but going from what you said to fighting Jesus's mommy and being sort of reincarnation and chosen be fate was SO STUPID.


I'm stuck in a bucket.

 

[Six Paths of Logic]

Honestly, If Kishi would have just stuck with the idea of Naruto a struggling adolescent seeking acceptance and chasing a dream to be a hokage, he would have had a good lesson and ending about not giving up.

But Kishi took on a question, that the real world is struggling with right now. How to obtain world peace?

Some of his characters used ideas that masked what real world people have thought of.

Nagato's plan of peace isn't the same as our current wave a "big stick" plan. Since we let off those nukes in Japan, the world has been a pretty moderate peace but it won't be long till like Nagato said in the manga, people need to reminded of the fear.

But I digress, you think Kishi will come up with some great idea for world peace or will it have some lame fairy tail answer.

"Oh the wars over lets all be friends".....

Nope, the answer has always been there, that is for "world peace".
But i guess in Naruto it will probably be Ninshu, or Naruto's version of it.

 

[Jack Spicer]

Nope, the answer has always been there, that is for "world peace".
But i guess in Naruto it will probably be Ninshu, or Naruto's version.

It was in Shippuden, but it was a bad idea to tackle or better yet, he failed miserably in execution.

Thanks for the neg rep though. I love you too.


I'm stuck in a bucket.

 

[Barbarossa]

We trust in Kishi!

 

[Jack Spicer]

We trust in Kishi!

I don't. Don't include me in that.


I'm stuck in a bucket.

 

[Honord Sage]

Honestly, If Kishi would have just stuck with the idea of Naruto a struggling adolescent seeking acceptance and chasing a dream to be a hokage, he would have had a good lesson and ending about not giving up.

But Kishi took on a question, that the real world is struggling with right now. How to obtain world peace?

Some of his characters used ideas that masked what real world people have thought of.

Nagato's plan of peace isn't the same as our current wave a "big stick" plan. Since we let off those nukes in Japan, the world has been a pretty moderate peace but it won't be long till like Nagato said in the manga, people need to reminded of the fear.

But I digress, you think Kishi will come up with some great idea for world peace or will it have some lame fairy tail answer.

"Oh the wars over lets all be friends".....

Their never will be peace if you don't try. Just like you will never have a friend if you don't reach out.

 

[Six Paths of Logic]

It was in Shippuden, but it was a bad idea to tackle or better yet, he failed miserably in execution.

Thanks for the neg rep though. I love you too.


I'm stuck in a bucket.

What was in Shippuden? Lol.
And no he didnt, otherwise, the manga wouldn't be so popular and you wouldn't be here.

And i have no need or desire for someone's feelings over the internet.

 

[Six Paths of Logic]

I don't. Don't include me in that.


I'm stuck in a bucket.

Doeant matter, you're "stuck in a bucket".

 

[Jack Spicer]

What was in Shippuden? Lol.
And no he didnt, otherwise, the manga wouldn't be so popular and you wouldn't be here.

And i have no need or desire for someone's feelings over the internet.

Blah blah prophecy he will bring peace blah blah nagato pain toad blah blah

And yes he did. Took someone who was hard working and just a kid and made him into a reincarnated destined to save the world kid. That entirely goes against everything in part one.

But I still love you, ding dong.

Doeant matter, you're "stuck in a bucket".

This is true.



I'm stuck in a bucket.

 

[Six Paths of Logic]

Blah blah prophecy he will bring peace blah blah nagato pain toad blah blah

And yes he did. Took someone who was hard working and just a kid and made him into a reincarnated destined to save the world kid. That entirely goes against everything in part one.

But I still love you, ding dong.


This is true.

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Well as Hokage (a leader of a village) dont u think, peace outside of the village would be a concerned? Especially since other villages were introduce, IN PART 1.
Anyways, he still wants to be Hokage, and probably even more than that.

 

[Jack Spicer]

Well as Hokage (a leader of a village) dont u think, peace outside of the village would be a concerned? Especially since other villages were introduce, IN PART 1.
Anyways, he still wants to be Hokage, and probably even more than that.

No, I disagree. You are wrong. Yes, hey did introduce like one other village in Part 1, but all this peace to the entire world and ending all bad things came in Part 2 and was shit.

It's okay though. I made a mistake too. Didn't mean to post that gif. The bucket is challenging.


I'm stuck in a bucket.

 

[Six Paths of Logic]

No, I disagree. You are wrong. Yes, hey did introduce like one other village in Part 1, but all this peace to the entire world and ending all bad things came in Part 2 and was shit.

It's okay though. I made a mistake too. Didn't mean to post that gif. The bucket is challenging.


I'm stuck in a bucket.

Nah, im sorry, you really do have a bucket stuck on your head, until u remove it, that is when u will see the light

 

[Jack Spicer]

Nah, im sorry, you really do have a bucket stuck on your head, until u remove it, that is when u will see the light

Even with a bucket over my head, I can see the shit Naruto has become and how him being destined to bring peace just doesn't fit and/or it was down extremely poorly.



I'm stuck in a bucket.

 

[Opiuchus05]

Naruto is still about the same thing it was in part 1
It's just a manga Kishi isn't trying to find world peace
He's just trying to make a manga to where you don't find world peace because you beat the person trying to destroy the world

 

[ShadowBandit]

Naruto will bring back Ninshu so people can understand each other. I thought this was foreshadowed.

The idea of Ninshu is lame, it almost feels as fake as infinite tskyumoni. Because instead of putting a mask over your eyes, you put a mask over your heart (figuratively). It be incredible lame to be connected with everyones feelings all time, how are you post to tell you wife a white lie, that the dress is wearing doesn't make her look fat? Lol.

Their never will be peace if you don't try. Just like you will never have a friend if you don't reach out.

Well that idea for peace with Nagato's answer is that as long as he keeps seeking it, eventually somebody would find the answer. Thats a good answer for general people but the problem is Naruto's prophecy says that he will find an answer. This masks a real world problem right now, its not like people aren't trying to find world peace, but it seems like there little more than a bandaid.

Naruto is still about the same thing it was in part 1
It's just a manga Kishi isn't trying to find world peace
He's just trying to make a manga to where you don't find world peace because you beat the person trying to destroy the world

Of course its just a manga, but most if not all manga, even comics and books teach a life lesson based on the conflict within the story. One of Kishi conflicts within the story is curse of hatred which is in conjunction with the ninja system tethered together by there wars. Seems almost exactly like are real world now.

I just feel it was too big of question, and don't get me wrong in all other aspects of the manga I feel Kishi will do just fine. Its just the conflict of Naruto finding the answer to peace between everyone seems a little farfetched. Sure after the war, everyone will be friends with Naruto, doubt there would be any major conflicts while he's alive or not very much of it. But what about after he's dead, I feel history will just repeat itself.

 

[so12p]

Go back and read the original interviews with kishimoto, particularly where he talks about growing up not from Hiroshima and the stories from his grandfather.