So do people actually Believe in Absolute Dicatorship or just Fanboyism?

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You sure about that?Because Naruto has said he was willing to kill Sasuke and that he was tired of trying to reason with him.

First, he never said he plans on killing Sasuke, clearly killing Madara didn't end the feud, so that's not the solution. Naruto is willing to fight him because he knows he can't be reasoned with.
 

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You sure about that?Because Naruto has said he was willing to kill Sasuke and that he was tired of trying to reason with him.
He said he is going to end the cycle, killing Sasuke won't end the cycle. He didn't say he was gonna kill him.
 

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You sure about that?Because Naruto has said he was willing to kill Sasuke and that he was tired of trying to reason with him.

No he was willing to kill Sasuke to stop him from destroying the village and starting more war.

Sasuke is a criminal with a bounty on his head not a government leader or someone who simply disagrees with Naruto.
 

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Tell me again how Naruto handled Kakuzu, Madara, Kaguya?

Remember that time Kakashi stabbed two people in the face?

Remember how the Kages have done every crime Sasuke has that supposedly make him unfit to rule?

Remember how the US hunted and gave Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein graves, not peace treaties?

Remember how when Hitler was in rule, and we disagreed with his policies, and wanted change, we went to war and got him killed?

Remember how people couldn't and can't use chemical weapons and nuclear weapons in ways that didn't result in unneeded damage and cruel casualties, so we locked them away instead of just leaving them out?

Remember how you don't actually know Sasuke's policies and have no idea if he's gNonna be a dictator? What if he establishes a democracy that has zero tolerance for anything that can threaten the peace they've established?

1. Kaguya Madaara Kakuza were trying to destroy the order of the world... and kill people .

2. Was he doing it to take over the world? or did those freakin people attack him?

3. You have a point here except the people actually want these people to rule making their rule just. Forced rule like what Sasuke wants err how do you SAY NO..

4. Well UN had no problems with US doing that considering they wanted them dead.. How what Sasuke is doing even compare to this is laughable..

4. DO YOU EVEN STUDY HISTORY!!!! Disagreed with his policies of what taking over lands and wanting to rule the freakin world???????!!!! I CANT EVEN!!! Actually though we dint want change we just wanted him to stop you know killing people and trying to rule the world.. not to mention US was last to the fight...

5. If you mean the bijuu? wouldnt them going to themselves be more like everyone not manufacturing them..

6. Sasuke's Exact words were I WILL SHOW THE WORLD WHAT A TRUE HOKAGE IS~~~
 

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Well, Kumo is basically the USA, and, do you know any country that doesn't prepare for potential wars, even if they don't plan on waging them?

Yes,but many of them don't kidnap children or hire terrorist organizations.The last is something that the USA and the Middle East is guilt of however.
 

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Yes,but many of them don't kidnap children or hire terrorist organizations.The last is something that the USA and the Middle East is guilt of however.

Except Onoki thought the akatsuki were just mercenaries (they never revealed their true motives, Jiraiya only found out because he was investigating them), and Ay wasn't behind the kidnapping.
 

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Was it really? He gave everyone bijuu so they wouldn't kill each other (MAD) and happened to make Konoha, which did end the awful Warring States period. This is a unique situation, with undoubtedly unique outcomes, I'm pretty sure you know Sasuke is insane, but refuse to go against him because he's, well, Sasuke.
Yes, the bijuu were apart of the problem, it made the nations power hungry and compete with each other trying to steal the bijuu. Naruto may be able to keep peace for a little bit but history repeats itself.
 

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Kaguya could not be reasoned with because it is like she lost her heart. She was no longer human.
 

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Yes,but many of them don't kidnap children or hire terrorist organizations.The last is something that the USA and the Middle East is guilt of however.

The Akatsuki started off as mercenaries, and I believe that even the Tsuchikage admitted that the old ways were wrong and that things needed to change.
 

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Yes, the bijuu were apart of the problem, it made the nations power hungry and compete with each other trying to steal the bijuu. Naruto may be able to keep peace for a little bit but history repeats itself.

Except people killed each other prior to the bijuu's existence. Anyway, why focus on that when it wasn't even the point of my post, I only brought up the bijuu as something Hashirama changed, other than that, they're irrelevant to my statement.
 

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Except people killed each other prior to the bijuu's existence. Anyway, why focus on that when it wasn't even the point of my post, I only brought up the bijuu as something Hashirama changed, other than that, they're irrelevant to my statement.
The only reason the 5 nations united was because they had a common enemy threatening to destroy the world, even ohnoki admitted this. When the war ends things will go back to the old way without some type of change/revolution.
 

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The only reason the 5 nations united was because they had a common enemy threatening to destroy the world, even ohnoki admitted this. When the war ends things will go back to the old way without some type of change/revolution.

Except they clearly view each other differently now, especially the kage (who are basically friends) not to mention, in Naruto, the last War was about 20 year ago.
 

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Except they clearly view each other differently now, especially the kage (who are basically friends) not to mention, in Naruto, the last War was about 20 year ago.
Yes the kage view each other as friends but the next generation won't. The people will start hating each other all over again, did you see how fast during the SA ceremony with the 5 generals the ninjas started arguing with each other, if it wasn't for gaara they would have begun to fight each other.
 

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Yes the kage view each other as friends but the next generation won't. The people will start hating each other all over again, did you see how fast during the SA ceremony with the 5 generals the ninjas started arguing with each other, if it wasn't for gaara they would have begun to fight each other.

Why won't the next generation? Do the current world leaders hate each other, because all of their nations were enemies at one point. The current kage started out hating each other because they were taught to the next generation likely won't, as the next generation will remember the 4th Great Ninja War.
 

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No, only an army fought behind Naruto for a single battle, and they came to respect him during that battle.

Naruto doesn't have control over the Shinobi Alliance.



So a guy who is going to kill someone who fought along side him and saved his life a couple of times, is going to establish a democracy?

A person who was willing to destroy an entire village down to the last child is going to establish a democracy?

A person who is going to kill five people in their sleep is going to establish a democracy?



Al Quida was a terrorist organization, that killed may people, they couldn't be reasoned with at all.

And they aren't part of the US, that is war, or should the US just let others kill their people?

Sasuke is going to kill the five kage, and implement his new world order and he doesn't care if the world wants it or not, that isn't democracy.

Also the US had the backing of its people when it went to war, that is democracy.

Who is backing Sasuke, who supports his plan other than him?
Yes, it's fully possible that someone like that can start a democracy. Once again, you don't know what Sasuke's revolution entails. You don't know the details. How do you know Sasuke's plan is to kill the Kages and Naruto because their influence is too great? What if the Kages and Naruto will have the wrong ideas that will create further chaos, but people listen to them instead because of influence?



We still have the possibility that Sasuke's plan is unification under a reasonable rule. However, what if the Kages, who are already leaders, prevent negotiations? One of you against Sasuke's way said it already, what makes you think the Kages are willing to listen to Sasuke? How do you know Sasuke isn't aiming to kill the Kages and Naruto so that there is no one who will stop him from proposing his ideals? How do you know Sasuke isn't aiming to kill them because he knows that they won't listen, and won't allow him to even say his ideals to people? How do you know people won't support Sasuke's ideals once he tells them to people?

You say Sasuke was willing to destroy an entire village, so his rule will be anything but fair, it will be a dicatorship. What about Gaara, who took part in the attack on Konoha that was meant to destroy the village, and stated how he wanted to kill everyone he came across just to feel alive? Is he a dictator? Nope. Not only that, but you're supporting him.

Sasuke can't be a leader because he was once part of Akatsuki, a terrorist organization, tell me, who did Oonoki hire again?

We are all ignorant to what Sasuke's plans are, so none of us can say whether or not it'll be a righteous success or an evil failure. All any of us can do is give him the benefit of a doubt. Whatever you say, at the end of the day, one thing remains fact: We just don't know.
 
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