Overplayed doesn't mean it doesn't happen :| Especially since we saw full power Madara Juubi Jin for less than a chapter, which is similar to what Sasuke would most likely be or even beyond it.
Rasengan/chidori is happening, but there's going to be twists of some sort in this fight, I doubt Kishi will be completely straightforward with it. Last Naruto vs Sasuke was a constant power-up power struggle.
Yea true, he doesn't have many chapters left though, if he wants to end it before the movie comes out, which is December 6th, that leaves 10 more chapters, ending the manga at chapter 702 on December 1st.
Well actually that's a lot now that I think about it, let's say he uses 8 full chapters for just the fight, and 2 chapters for closure and stuff, that's roughly 128 pages of fighting at 16 pages a chapter. He could do a lot in that amount, or not, depending if he has a million flashbacks or not.
Yea true, he doesn't have many chapters left though, if he wants to end it before the movie comes out, which is December 6th, that leaves 10 more chapters, ending the manga at chapter 702 on December 1st.
Well actually that's a lot now that I think about it, let's say he uses 8 full chapters for just the fight, and 2 chapters for closure and stuff, that's roughly 128 pages of fighting at 16 pages a chapter. He could do a lot in that amount, or not, depending if he has a million flashbacks or not.
Yes quite a bit could happen, it all depends on what he has in mind in the end. I don't think we're in for very many flashbacks until the fight climax though, Kishi just doesn't have time and people have been waiting for this moment forever.
I'm interested in the powerups though, I just can't imagine a Naruto vs Sasuke final fight with no twists or powerups XD
Well when Sasuke was totally lost and out of his mind he was pretty much open to do anything and everything to accomplish his goal of killing Itachi and anyone else even trying to kill Sakura that time but Sasuke isn't that lost now he has a plan however crazy it is and because of that I don't think he would do one thing like becoming Juubi Jin which goes against his plan for a "Revolution" just to defeat Naruto but that even assumes he is able to even accomplish that before Naruto smashes through the CT and saves the TB's.
The problem is not having power. Rather, it about controlling the power. Madara lost, though he has every bit of power within Narutoverse. Besides, there is one mistake that the debaters do here - that is they ignore that so far, only Naruto's body has shown to react specifically with chakra. Let me explain:
(1) Sage mode Naruto become omniscient. He can sense everything from everywhere even to the point he can know that his father is coming on a battle field.
(2) Kyuubi mode Naruto could sense everything including evil emotion. Minato in Kyuubi mode couldn't even sense BZ coming to still Yin Kurama from him. Juubidara couldn't even sense BZ trying to backstab him.
The thing is, Naruto has something that no one else has. This thing cause him to resonate with all kind of chakra, and to control them. And this is in his blood - Kushina Uzumaki's blood. Guess why Naruto compared Kaguya to his mother? See how Kushina is a reflection of Kaguya, a better powerful mother?
This is why Naruto is a better Hagoromo. He is the Last. Naruto was born from a mother who has the Shinju fruit inside her just as Hagoromo. That Shinju fruit is Kyuubi.
The problem is not having power. Rather, it about controlling the power. Madara lost, though he has every bit of power within Narutoverse. Besides, there is one mistake that the debaters do here - that is they ignore that so far, only Naruto's body has shown to react specifically with chakra. Let me explain:
(1) Sage mode Naruto become omniscient. He can sense everything from everywhere even to the point he can know that his father is coming on a battle field.
(2) Kyuubi mode Naruto could sense everything including evil emotion. Minato in Kyuubi mode couldn't even sense BZ coming to still Yin Kurama from him. Juubidara couldn't even sense BZ trying to backstab him.
The thing is, Naruto has something that no one else has. This thing cause him to resonate with all kind of chakra, and to control them. And this is in his blood - Kushina Uzumaki's blood. Guess why Naruto compared Kaguya to his mother? See how Kushina is a reflection of Kaguya, a better powerful mother?
This is why Naruto is a better Hagoromo. He is the Last. Naruto was born from a mother who has the Shinju fruit inside her just as Hagoromo. That Shinju fruit is Kyuubi.
I like that comparison of their mothers. Alot actually, very good. I'd like to see how you think Kyuubi is born from the God Tree Fruit though, that sounds like an interesting idea.
Also, I think you bring up a good point as to the flaw of Sasuke's idealogy with your opening statement. He wants power at all times, but that only leads to needing more power.
I'm also a little confused, is your statement saying this supports the theory or shoots it down haha?
Why would Sasuke become a Jin? when one of his goals is to destroy the tailed beasts how do you think he would go from that to wanting to absorb them and become a Jin? like the guy said above Sasuke thinks their evil so he wouldn't even be thinking that and you suggesting it is pretty much you writing a fanfiction of the version you want
You did not read your posted scan closely enough. All the SO6P said was that Naruto and Suckske COULD release IT without the additional bijuu power. Nowhere does it say that is the only way to release it.
You did not read your posted scan closely enough. All the SO6P said was that Naruto and Suckske COULD release IT without the additional bijuu power. Nowhere does it say that is the only way to release it.
Chidori vs Rasengan is the possible way. I agree with the others of their prediction since the last time they do chidori vs rasengan, Naruto, loss the fight. This is the time that he will avenge his loss and emerge victorious due to a slightly edge of power and guts.
You did not read your posted scan closely enough. All the SO6P said was that Naruto and Suckske COULD release IT without the additional bijuu power. Nowhere does it say that is the only way to release it.
that would literally make no sense if he was to do that. first off, they literally just sealed the kaguya/juubi/gedo mazou away, it would be utterly stupid if he then summoned it again. but if thats what he wanted to do he should be capable of summoning it there, just like he summoned the hawk in kaguya's dimension. him becoming the juubi would make even less sense as far as his plans go. he wants to kill the bijuu, if he becomes the jin of the juubi he wouldn't be able to do that. also, becoming the jin would basically make him juubi jin madara with a shifting ability. who may not have limbo's. this idea would make no sense whatsoever.
Becoming the Juubi jinchuuriki is actually the opposite of what Sasuke is trying to accomplish. He desperately wants to destroy them, together with the whole ninja system. If he becomes the Jin, and he dies, the biyuu's will just get revived and everything continues to be as it used to be. Thus, he wouldn't have changed anything.
And you think that he's able to extract the biyuu's from himself and have enough power left to destroy them? I HIGHLY doubt that. When Naruto had Kurama extracted, he instantly lost consciousness. And as we all know, Naruto has the greatest chakra move pool in the whole NarutoVerse. At least a lot bigger than Sasuke's.
When Obito lost the Juubi, all that keeping him alive was Black Zetsu.
I truly believe Sasuke is going to try to destroy the biyuu's, and Naruto with them, since a part of Kurama still recides within him.
that would literally make no sense if he was to do that. first off, they literally just sealed the kaguya/juubi/gedo mazou away, it would be utterly stupid if he then summoned it again. but if thats what he wanted to do he should be capable of summoning it there, just like he summoned the hawk in kaguya's dimension. him becoming the juubi would make even less sense as far as his plans go. he wants to kill the bijuu, if he becomes the jin of the juubi he wouldn't be able to do that. also, becoming the jin would basically make him juubi jin madara with a shifting ability. who may not have limbo's. this idea would make no sense whatsoever.
I think your argument is fair, however, this possibility does make sense (even if it is a little stale as many suggested). Do you think if it comes down to winning or losing, Sasuke would do whatever it takes to win? I do, besides he can figure out the Juubi later.
Also yes, he would probably essentially be full power Rinnegan Juubi Jin Madara, the version of Madara we saw for less than a chapter
Becoming the Juubi jinchuuriki is actually the opposite of what Sasuke is trying to accomplish. He desperately wants to destroy them, together with the whole ninja system. If he becomes the Jin, and he dies, the biyuu's will just get revived and everything continues to be as it used to be. Thus, he wouldn't have changed anything.
And you think that he's able to extract the biyuu's from himself and have enough power left to destroy them? I HIGHLY doubt that. When Naruto had Kurama extracted, he instantly lost consciousness. And as we all know, Naruto has the greatest chakra move pool in the whole NarutoVerse. At least a lot bigger than Sasuke's.
When Obito lost the Juubi, all that keeping him alive was Black Zetsu.
I truly believe Sasuke is going to try to destroy the biyuu's, and Naruto with them, since a part of Kurama still recides within him.
I think your argument is fair as well. I think where the disagreement on this theory comes from, is not a question of facts, but of Sasuke's character, which is highly subjective.
Some think that Sasuke will hold to his new ideals no matter what, thus he needs to kill the Bijuu no matter what and cannot use them.
I however, think that if Sasuke manages a losing position, he will accept any power from anywhere so that he can win.
This is a panel from the first chapter of Naruto I read that I believe sums up Sasuke perfectly:
"...Even if I must eat the devil's fruit, I am on a path where I must gain power."
I think Sasuke would take in the Juubi if he needed it to win.
I doubt that's going to happen. In order for sauske to become the juubi jin, he'll need the shinju shell body which is located at another dimension. Surpose sauske summon the shinju shell body from the gedo statue. He could also release black Zetsu increasing the risk of Kaguya's returning back to the world. As a result, ruining his so called plans. Sauske probably has a trumped card :being the juubi jin is unlikely one of them.
I think sasuke's strategy was already explained. he has given naruto plenty of targets to protect. the Biju, the 5 Kage, kakashi and sakura. and with sasuke having that swapping jutsu he is going to give naruto plenty of work. and perhaps with the other rinnegan jutsu on to of it ...
they were both analysing eachother during the fights with obito, the ten tails, madara and kayuga. so they are going to have to put al that data into this fight.
