[Theory] "D" Divine Kings Haki theory

[Tomato God]

It seems like people with Conqueror's Haki are natural leaders. It's not like all leaders have it (King Cobra and Wapol spring to mind), but people who have it are just really suited for positions of authority.

Every one who had it is either some one of Authority

• Boa Hancock- Queen of Amazon Lilly and Pirate Empress.
• Donquixote Doflamingo- King of Dressrosa
• Edward Newgate- King of the Sea (Garp called him this I think) also Yonkou
• Monkey D. Luffy- Future Pirate King
• Portgas D. Ace- Was going to be Pirate King/Son of Pirate King
• Shanks- This is really the only exception but he's a Yonkou so yea that must count for something.
• Silvers Rayleigh- Dark King
• Gol D Roger- I dont think that its ever been confirmed he has it but cmon, Pirate King.

BUT WHY!?
A auto knock out of fodders that doesn't seem like something important to have in the new world.

I think The only way to use Hassoken Haki is to have the D blood line in you and to use the advanced version of it you have to be a pure blooded D.
Ace and luffy ARE The only characters to be BORN with it (not including garp or Dragon cause we don't know)
And what happens when normal people use haki

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They can take out anyone that wavers in their own determination and even split open the sky and causing the ship to break.
But When luffy did it at marine ford his haki was different

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Do you see in the upper corner it made marco shake. Admirals who had just seen White beard tear apart an army of men called it terrifying.

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I don't know what Makes "D" holders haki different but its clear that they have a much stronger haki.​

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My personal Speculations

• When D holders use their Kings haki it can pacify any spirit even DF's spirits inside a person temporarily or the ocean itself. (Like Roger VS Shiki) Yea I know we all think that Uranus is the power of the sky but maybe its when will of D holders unleash there Divine Kings haki the universe (Shanks and WB Cut the sky and Roger made a hurricane his bitch which is more impressive) Helps them out giving them control of the seas the sky the wind and the rain.
• This would allow Luffy to control the "devil" inside of himself and others with his own will. And create Natural disasters with his will.
  Like against Chinjao thunder clouds came so he could do Gomu gomu no thor. Convenient aye? Or was it because he willed it to be there.

 

[Uhng]

nice theory, it does seem to be legit

 

[Punk Hazard]

What do you mean Luffy and Ace were the only ones born with it? Did the others buy it on AmazonLily.com?

 

[dms_kakashi]

Sky splitting was armanent haki
And we don't know shanks was D or not

 

[dms_kakashi]

Sky splitting was armanent haki
And we don't know shanks was D or not

 

[Tomato God]

What do you mean Luffy and Ace were the only ones born with it? Did the others buy it on AmazonLily.com?

No everyone else awakened it at some point. Luffy and Ace could both unconsciously use it since birth.

 

[Punk Hazard]

No everyone else awakened it at some point. Luffy and Ace could both unconsciously use it since birth.

Uh, no? Luffy awakened Haoshoku on Amazon Lily and Ace awakened it against Bluejam in Grey Terminal. Everyone awakens it at some point, and must later control it.

 

[Tomato God]

Uh, no? Luffy awakened Haoshoku on Amazon Lily and Ace awakened it against Bluejam in Grey Terminal. Everyone awakens it at some point, and must later control it.

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Garp in the panel said he knew he had it since birth. So he must have awakened it or given some sign since he was born.
Most people awaken it and then you know but garp could feel it in his grandkids since they were born. They were giving it off since they were born.

 

[Angelic.]

nice theory.
hh has to be bettter than for fodders. i believe it will be luffys greatest haki asset since oda said hes best at it out of all three.
either dragon has a df to control weather or its incredoble haki.

 

[Punk Hazard]

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Garp in the panel said he knew he had it since birth. So he must have awakened it or given some sign since he was born.
Most people awaken it and then you know but garp could feel it in his grandkids since they were born. They were giving it off since they were born.

That's because he inherited it from Dragon[

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]. Garp knew Luffy had the potential to have it because it can be inherited and Dragon has it, but he didn't know for sure until then. Garp didn't know a thing since birth, he only knew for sure then, evident by his phrase "So he really was born with it", showing that he had doubts.

Everyone who has Haoshoku currently were born with it, it just needs to be awakened.

 

[Tomato God]

That's because he inherited it from Dragon[

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]. Garp knew Luffy had the potential to have it because it can be inherited and Dragon has it, but he didn't know for sure until then. Garp didn't know a thing since birth, he only knew for sure then, evident by his phrase "So he really was born with it", showing that he had doubts.

Everyone who has Haoshoku currently were born with it, it just needs to be awakened.

Lets pretend I am wrong. Lets pretend that you just posted a scan showing that it was inherited and that totally didn't support my side of the argument. (which it does. You just said that CoK is passed down from D carrier to D carrier which means I am right). And lets pretend that none of that matters.

How did luffy form clouds to use Gomu gomu thor on command? How did luffy use his haki to shake Marco all up something mind you shanks couldn't do. How come his haki paused the war for a split second when WB's haki was on full blast the whole time?
How did Ace a ten year old brat whip out the most powerful divine gift when he was just that? A ten year old brat.
Again its not worth arguing about. My word isn't gospel nor is am I Eiichiro Oda. It is simply a theory. And we can argue all day.

But if you insist on posting scans that support my theory that D holders are the source of all Kings haki. Thats where Luffy gets it from. His pure blood line. And thats where dragon got it from. His pure blood line. At the end of the day no one else but
Monkey D Dragon Monkey D Luffy Monkey D Garp and Monkey D Ace Got their haki from birth right. That is more than enough proof to give grounds to assume that Luffy's haki is something special. And even further if the trend continues, as I assume it will, how come both
Luffy And aces father both could conjure up storms to do bidding? Maybe its because their birth right.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Lets pretend I am wrong. Lets pretend that you just posted a scan showing that it was inherited and that totally didn't support my side of the argument. (which it does. You just said that CoK is passed down from D carrier to D carrier which means I am right). And lets pretend that none of that matters.

How did luffy form clouds to use Gomu gomu thor on command? How did luffy use his haki to shake Marco all up something mind you shanks couldn't do. How come his haki paused the war for a split second when WB's haki was on full blast the whole time?
How did Ace a ten year old brat whip out the most powerful divine gift when he was just that? A ten year old brat.
Again its not worth arguing about. My word isn't gospel nor is am I Eiichiro Oda. It is simply a theory. And we can argue all day.

But if you insist on posting scans that support my theory that D holders are the source of all Kings haki. Thats where Luffy gets it from. His pure blood line. And thats where dragon got it from. His pure blood line. At the end of the day no one else but
Monkey D Dragon Monkey D Luffy Monkey D Garp and Monkey D Ace Got their haki from birth right. That is more than enough proof to give grounds to assume that Luffy's haki is something special. And even further if the trend continues, as I assume it will, how come both
Luffy And aces father both could conjure up storms to do bidding? Maybe its because their birth right.

I don't think you understood a single thing I said. I never once said that Luffy's Hoashoku can't be special, so everything in this post pertaining to that is irrelevant.

I'm saying everyone who has Haoshoku were born with it. I posted those scans to show that Garp's words don't indicate that Luffy is some sort of special case because it's not that Garp could tell Luffy was born with it, it's that since it can be inherited and Dragon has it, it shows that Garp simply hypothesized that maybe Luffy was born with it, maybe he inherited it.

Rayleigh, Doflamingo, Hancock, Shanks and Newgate, none of them Ds, how did they get Haoshoku? All Haoshoku users are born with it, that's not what makes Luffy's special. Nothing in those scans say "Haoshoku Haki originated with Ds", you're seeing things aren't even there.

 

[Tomato God]

I don't think you understood a single thing I said. I never once said that Luffy's Hoashoku can't be special, so everything in this post pertaining to that is irrelevant.

I'm saying everyone who has Haoshoku were born with it. I posted those scans to show that Garp's words don't indicate that Luffy is some sort of special case because it's not that Garp could tell Luffy was born with it, it's that since it can be inherited and Dragon has it, it shows that Garp simply hypothesized that maybe Luffy was born with it, maybe he inherited it.

Rayleigh, Doflamingo, Hancock, Shanks and Newgate, none of them Ds, how did they get Haoshoku? All Haoshoku users are born with it, that's not what makes Luffy's special. Nothing in those scans say "Haoshoku Haki originated with Ds", you're seeing things aren't even there.

Thats why its a theory. Thats what reading between the lines is. Putting together evidence to support unseen clauses.
Like Luffy and Ace's whole family having Haoshoku haki. Might be special.
The fact that Luffy and ace were both the youngest people to ever use Haoshoku haki. Maybe they didn't have to awaken it. Maybe it was active from the moment they were alive.

And The evidence I am using is Iva's response saying that luffy didn't notice it yet and it isn't ready to be used. I.E. Not awakened.
He even calls it sleeping.

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Luffy can use it when Its not awakened. Luffy has been passively using it to acquire nakama and make people like him since chapter one where he convinced shanks to put his faith in him. Thats the real difference.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Thats why its a theory. Thats what reading between the lines is. Putting together evidence to support unseen clauses.
Like Luffy and Ace's whole family having Haoshoku haki. Might be special.
The fact that Luffy and ace were both the youngest people to ever use Haoshoku haki. Maybe they didn't have to awaken it. Maybe it was active from the moment they were alive.

And The evidence I am using is Iva's response saying that luffy didn't notice it yet and it isn't ready to be used. I.E. Not awakened.
He even calls it sleeping.

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Luffy can use it when Its not awakened. Luffy has been passively using it to acquire nakama and make people like him since chapter one where he convinced shanks to put his faith in him. Thats the real difference.

Sure, whatever, all of that can be right. Doesn't mean it's because he was born with it, all of them are. Like, are you even reading my posts or just skimming?

 

[Tomato God]

Sure, whatever, all of that can be right. Doesn't mean it's because he was born with it, all of them are. Like, are you even reading my posts or just skimming?

I can't read well... Its one of the things I struggle with. But thats neither here nor there. Why wouldn't it make him special. He can use his haki without awakening it.
The only instance we have of haki being awakened were both intense situations. Luffy and Ace didn't have to have intensity to use it. They could always just use it.

 

[Punk Hazard]

I can't read well... Its one of the things I struggle with. But thats neither here nor there. Why wouldn't it make him special. He can use his haki without awakening it.
The only instance we have of haki being awakened were both intense situations. Luffy and Ace didn't have to have intensity to use it. They could always just use it.

I'm saying "Luffy's Haki may be special, but it's not because he was born with it", and your argument to that is "His Haki is special."

 

[Tomato God]

I'm saying "Luffy's Haki may be special, but it's not because he was born with it", and your argument to that is "His Haki is special."

my argument is his haki is special because he can use it since birth. Not because he was born with it.

 

[Punk Hazard]

my argument is his haki is special because he can use it since birth. Not because he was born with it.

Nope, Luffy has just been able to unconsciously use his Haoshoku's, causing it to be very weak unless it's a dire situation where the bursts happen. You have no proof that every other Haoshoku user didn't go through the same.

 

[Tomato God]

Nope, Luffy has just been able to unconsciously use his Haoshoku's, causing it to be very weak unless it's a dire situation where the bursts happen. You have no proof that every other Haoshoku user didn't go through the same.

And you have no proof that they did. But what I do have is proof that no one else can use sleeping haki but luffy and ace.
Usopp awakend haki When he was almost losing his captain but before that the haki was sleeping and it never helped him
Same for coby.
And Zoro and Sanji
And Tashigi
And Smoker.
The point is everyother person had to awaken their haki before they could use it. Not Luffy. Not ace. I may not be able to prove that All Haoshoken users have to but in terms of most haki no one can use it before it wakes up. Except those two.

 

[Punk Hazard]

And you have no proof that they did. But what I do have is proof that no one else can use sleeping haki but luffy and ace.
Usopp awakend haki When he was almost losing his captain but before that the haki was sleeping and it never helped him
Same for coby.
And Zoro and Sanji
And Tashigi
And Smoker.
The point is everyother person had to awaken their haki before they could use it. Not Luffy. Not ace. I may not be able to prove that All Haoshoken users have to but in terms of most haki no one can use it before it wakes up. Except those two.

Providing instances of Luffy and Ace using "sleeping" Haoshoku Haki does not mean they are the only ones to ever do so. You have no proof of this, so no matter what you say they will still be nothing but shallow guesses with no real support.