[Discussion] the three powers

[Tomato God]

I believe that the three powers are in total equal in strength. (Or were before buggy joined)

• Think about it A yonko Aka Whitebeard could barely go toe to toe with an admiral and to put it bluntly two admirals would slaughter A yonko.
• And then even more so people like sabo can't defeat an admiral But they can hit and go toe to toe with them and keep up. In the same manor if most shichbukai are around boa-Mihawk level then two of them should be able to take out an admiral at any point they choose
• And a yonko should be able to take out any match up of shichibukai.

When we do the math It works out like this

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Yonko = 2.5 admirals
Admirals = 1.4 shichibukai
Yonko = 3.18 Shichibukai​

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And in total excluding their crews if all admirals are in full attack mode and all shichibukai are Boa hancock or stronger then
4 yonko vs 1 fleet admiral 3 admirals and 7 shichibukai would end in a stale mate
Thats why the Gorosei want them to stay in place so bad because its the only way the WG can match The Emperors of the sea.

And thats why The Mugiwaras are the biggest threat to the WG right now and Why Akainu wanted luffy dead so bad at marine ford. His "Dangerous Ability"

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To have all the strong people around him gravitate towards him and become their allies.

Think about it.
Luffy will be above admirals and sanji and zoro will not be far behind.

Already we have a power shift of Global proportions. Three yonko level fighters roaming the seas
And that already throws our equation out of balance at any point the SHs EOS could just tip the scales.
But even mores so Franky brook and robin will be around Admiral level EOS *IMO* (Its just an opinion not gospel)
And The Weakling trio will be upper shichibukai tier, So at the end of the series one small ship on the ocean could at any point decide to throw off the entire balance of the world having more than enough power to take down either side of the pre-established equation.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

You said a yonkou gets slaughtered by 2 Admirals, but later said a yonkou=2.5 Admirals, that makes no sense.

 

[Tomato God]

You said a yonkou gets slaughtered by 2 Admirals, but later said a yonkou=2.5 Admirals, that makes no sense.

I was exagerating... Its called a hyperbolic stament. It would take high diff from either side to beat a Yonko Kizaru and Akauni 2v1 could end either way so in the end it would take 2.5 admirals to garuentee victory as we havent seen the strenght of all the admirals.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

WG=All Pirates(excluding the Warlords)and the Revs.

 

[Fireplay]

2.5 admirals? Hell no. 2 admirals would wipe the floor with a Yonko. Remember what happened to Shiki?

4 Yonko will shit on the Shichi.

 

[Rokudaime Hokage Naruto]

I don't think it is so clear cut as that.

I think that the idea is that the Marines and the Shichibukai together are too much of a threat for one Yonko to overthrow, so the Yonko don't mess with the WG.

However the WG doesn't mess with the Yonko for two reasons.

1) The Yonko are responsible for stability in many nations in the New World (i.e Whitebeard)
2) If the WG was seen attempting to pick off one of the Yonko the 3 other Yonko would band together (albeit unwillingly) in order to take down the WG and WG doesn't want this. (Look at their fear when it was thought Shanks and Whitebeard were going to make an alliance in the post enies lobby arc.

Also the fact of the matter is, both sides are extremely powerful and a large scale fight would lead to decimated forces on both sides which is why they choose not to fight.

Believing them to have some kind of mathematical equality is taking things too literally.

 

[Olorin]

Admirals+Sichibukai balance out Yonko+first mates/highest division commanders (like Ace and Jozu)

VAs balance out other commanders (like from Vista onward)

Marine random no-names balance out yonko random no-names

We don't know the power ratio of the powers but one shouldn't really dominate over the other

The Yonko don't mess with the WG because that would be their end or because they are Shanks and the WG doesn't mess with the Yonko because why overthrow a system that works and in which you live quite comfortably, if the yonko weren't there it would just mean extra work for the WG

 

[Dr Strangelove]

First of all I disagree with some of your thinking. For example I think Newgate could take on two Admiral U__U

Secondly, Robin, Franky and Brook all Admiral level EoS?...

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[U mAd]

nope marines needed shibukais+va's+admirals to face a yanko

 

[Zorø]

First of all I disagree with some of your thinking. For example I think Newgate could take on two Admiral U__U

Secondly, Robin, Franky and Brook all Admiral level EoS?...

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This ^^^Lol Prime Whitebeard would own 2 Admirals mid diff.

 

[chopstickchakra]

Not only did Whitebeard go toe to toe against admirals he did it injured, old and dying. Granted WB might be the most hyped Yonko and the only one we know about but if he was much stronger than any of the other yonko he could take over their territory and become sole yonko but he didn't presumably because he couldn't.

You realize the WG pulled the marines, shichibukai and the 3 admirals plus Garp and Sengoku because they expected WB to try and save Ace. They had no idea about Imple Down and Luffy all that prep was solely for WB and crew. If all it took was 1 admiral for 1 yonko they'd have left 2 admirals and garp and sengoku home.

Also Macho got it spot on, you say 2 admirals would slaughter a yonko then say 2 admirals v yonko could go either way and that 2.5 admirals is needed to ensure victory. Well, which is it? Either way, and this is solely my logic, Shanks could beat Kizaru 1v1, he trained with Rayleigh who showed even in old age he could push Kizaru.

 

[Dr Strangelove]

This ^^^Lol Prime Whitebeard would own 2 Admirals mid diff.

Depends which Admirals.
Sakazuki and Kuzan he would probably sustain some life threatening injuries by the end of it.
Borsalino and Issho I think he could take mid diff U___U

 

[Zorø]

Depends which Admirals.
Sakazuki and Kuzan he would probably sustain some life threatening injuries by the end of it.
Borsalino and Issho I think he could take mid diff U___U

obvs obvs

 

[Dr Strangelove]

obvs obvs

XD
Obvs obvs xD

 

[Forbidden Tale]

Admiral aren't part of three powers, Marine HQ are part of three powers, Marine HQ is more than just 3 admirals. Marine HQ is Fleet Admiral + Admirals and Vice Admirals.

Yonko's crews aren't part of the 3 power, just Yonko (4 pirates) are. Same with Shichibukai, their crews aren't part of the 3 powers.

Now next, Garp statament is vague, he said that WG has two forces to stop Yonko, he don't say that they are both needed to stop Yonko.

That was proven in Grand Times (omake from 2006), official it was never released in English, but it is released in Japan and here is translation:

四皇を止める力として、世界政府は海軍と王下七武海を従える。
The World Government has Marine and Shichibukai as forces to stop the Yonkou.

海軍 - 海上の治安を守る、世界政府機関のひとつ。敵は同じだが、王下七武海とは相容れない。
Marine HQ - One of the World Government's organization that protects safety on the sea. Even though they have same enemy, they are not in friendly term with Shichibukai. (They don't work together.)

王下七武海 - 利益の一部を上納することで、世界政府から略奪を許されている。海賊への抑止力という意味もあ り、その実力 も折り紙つきだ。
Shichibukai - By paying part of the profit, they are permitted to plunder by the World Government. This works as a restraint against the other pirates, and their ability is unquestioned.

四皇 - "偉大なる航路"後半の海にて、皇帝のごとき力を誇る海賊。頭は4人だが、その戦力は他の世界的勢 力と並ぶ 。
Yonkou - Pirates that shows emperor-like power in the later half of the "Grandline." Even though there are only four of them, their power equals to the other world forces.

Marine HQ and Shichibukai don't work together, Shichibukai is not allied with them, they are allied with WG. They fight along with them, only when WG want from them to fight.

And that's it - Marine HQ ≈ Yonko ≈ Shichibukai

 

[Gintõki1]

First of all I disagree with some of your thinking. For example I think Newgate could take on two Admiral U__U

Secondly, Robin, Franky and Brook all Admiral level EoS?...

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You nailed it bro!