[Theory] funny how poeple still think Madara's character is finished off

[minamoto]

Madara can not use sage jutsu at that time tho, (he was still ONLY uchiha)

Two you can NOT distinguish between real and kagebunshin (thats why Kayuga was fooled by Naruto..(ok hold up....if ***king the GOD of all chakra is fooled by a kid who used to drink spoiled milk...the 2nd hokage was def fooled by Madara's KageBunshin) )

You would be an excellent member if you didn't base everything off your imagination and ignore manga facts and Naruto Wiki explanations.

There is PLENTY of evidence of izanagi, The anime shows how izanami was made and within it they showed a butt load of uchiha using izanagi...

I want to believe in your theory on some levels but you always push people away by not being logical

-do not compare naruto's clone's case with madara's becuz :


1-Madara had only ONE clone to replace his corpse...and his clone was dead...tobirama had all the time and freedom to examin it...im 500000% pretty sure that he could tell if it was a clone or not,especially when we know that he is THE ONE WHO INVINTED SHADOW CLONE JUTSU..I MEAN COMON BRO!!....However in kaguya's case...naruto used hundreds (if not thousands) of clones...naruto made it very hard for kaguya to recognize the reall naruto from the clones...also kaguya wasn't just focusing on Naruto...there were Sasuke and naruto and kakashi...

2-the shadow clone jutsu was invinted many years after kaguya's existence...something that is new for kaguya's knowledge..thx for black zetsu who was guiding her and telling her how to use battle strategy since he got knowledge about ninja thechniques..


3-true sharingan user isn't the one who has strongest sharingan...but its the one who know how to use his sharingan = kagiya couldn't see naruto's clones...but Madara could !!!!!!

4- i dont want to be an exelent member...i dont want likes or reps...its usless to neg rep me..that wont interest me...ALL I CARE ITS TO SEE TOBIDARA GET REVEALED..THATS ALL I CARE...then my tobidara mission will automatically end in the base...

5-if you want to believe in my theory...thats maybe becuz you somehow realized that tobidara theory makes sense..im pretty sure that you felt that something was wrong with the whole tobito reveal...for exempel why didn't the unmasked obito say anything about slaughring the uchihas clan?....why didn't he try and recontroll kiyubi with his eyes?..like he did 17 years ago..

..im not here to force my theory to be believed...im here to show you the tobidara evidences that madara is indeed Tobi....

 

[NewMaster7]

Tobidara........OH you mean Darth Obitio...oh okay bro.

 

[Draven]

-do not compare naruto's clone's case with madara's becuz :


1-Madara had only ONE clone to replace his corpse...and his clone was dead...tobirama had all the time and freedom to examin it...im 500000% pretty sure that he could tell if it was a clone or not,especially when we know that he is THE ONE WHO INVINTED SHADOW CLONE JUTSU..I MEAN COMON BRO!!....However in kaguya's case...naruto used hundreds (if not thousands) of clones...naruto made it very hard for kaguya to recognize the reall naruto from the clones...also kaguya wasn't just focusing on Naruto...there were Sasuke and naruto and kakashi...

2-the shadow clone jutsu was invinted many years after kaguya's existence...something that is new for kaguya's knowledge..thx for black zetsu who was guiding her and telling her how to use battle strategy since he got knowledge about ninja thechniques..


3-true sharingan user isn't the one who has strongest sharingan...but its the one who know how to use his sharingan = kagiya couldn't see naruto's clones...but Madara could !!!!!!

4- i dont want to be an exelent member...i dont want likes or reps...its usless to neg rep me..that wont interest me...ALL I CARE ITS TO SEE TOBIDARA GET REVEALED..THATS ALL I CARE...then my tobidara mission will automatically end in the base...

5-if you want to believe in my theory...thats maybe becuz you somehow realized that tobidara theory makes sense..im pretty sure that you felt that something was wrong with the whole tobito reveal...for exempel why didn't the unmasked obito say anything about slaughring the uchihas clan?....why didn't he try and recontroll kiyubi with his eyes?..like he did 17 years ago..

..im not here to force my theory to be believed...im here to show you the tobidara evidences that madara is indeed Tobi....

But in posting your theory over and over and over again you are doing exactly that and thats why everyone hates on you. If you stuck to one thread instead of making a new one everytime someone sh*** on your theory. People wouldnt take you as a joke and some people might believe you.

But since you posted the same theory almost 60+ times most people consider you nothing more then a joke or troll.

 

[Wesker]

I wish it did happen minamoto, but give up at this point. KISHI finished this game with Madara and the rest.

The current psycho nuts Sasuke that just CTed all biju, is his clear pseudo- substitute. That is pretty sad and annoying.

 

[T0bidara]

-do not compare naruto's clone's case with madara's becuz :


1-Madara had only ONE clone to replace his corpse...and his clone was dead...tobirama had all the time and freedom to examin it...im 500000% pretty sure that he could tell if it was a clone or not,especially when we know that he is THE ONE WHO INVINTED SHADOW CLONE JUTSU..I MEAN COMON BRO!!....However in kaguya's case...naruto used hundreds (if not thousands) of clones...naruto made it very hard for kaguya to recognize the reall naruto from the clones...also kaguya wasn't just focusing on Naruto...there were Sasuke and naruto and kakashi...

2-the shadow clone jutsu was invinted many years after kaguya's existence...something that is new for kaguya's knowledge..thx for black zetsu who was guiding her and telling her how to use battle strategy since he got knowledge about ninja thechniques..


3-true sharingan user isn't the one who has strongest sharingan...but its the one who know how to use his sharingan = kagiya couldn't see naruto's clones...but Madara could !!!!!!

4- i dont want to be an exelent member...i dont want likes or reps...its usless to neg rep me..that wont interest me...ALL I CARE ITS TO SEE TOBIDARA GET REVEALED..THATS ALL I CARE...then my tobidara mission will automatically end in the base...

5-if you want to believe in my theory...thats maybe becuz you somehow realized that tobidara theory makes sense..im pretty sure that you felt that something was wrong with the whole tobito reveal...for exempel why didn't the unmasked obito say anything about slaughring the uchihas clan?....why didn't he try and recontroll kiyubi with his eyes?..like he did 17 years ago..

..im not here to force my theory to be believed...im here to show you the tobidara evidences that madara is indeed Tobi....

might as well give up now then........

 

[NewMaster7]

Even if all you say is TRUE Minamoto :

ONE BIG FLAW:

You said there are TWO Madaras right (we all witnessed)....okay

If there are two maddys around then they are both dead by now!

Why:

The old maddy in the cave (whether Izanagi or real) is dead from the separation from gedo, even IF he was Edo'ed he would be too old and weak to do anything. Okay so that's ONE.


Now that leaves the one in the coffin, the one we will refer to as the current Madara. If it is true that there was a body in the coffin, and that body was young Madara. It is possible that was the body kabuto found, which means that body was the Edo Madara, which means that body:

was rinne revived

became so6p Madara

got soloed by BZ

and died talking to Hashi in the end of the Kygua battle

(Tobirama would have also known if Maddy was acting dead in the coffin since he was "experimenting" on him, there is no way out of there alive for him; even so, you STILL need a body of young Maddy to edo which means that one of them HAS to die young.)

So thats it, there are no more Maddys around because they both died at separate times. If you say there are THREE Maddies you will have to reform the ENTIRE THEORY thus making you wrong. Check Mate

 

[NSUNSR]

Madara is dead. Deal with it.

 

[T0bidara]

Even if all you say is TRUE Minamoto :

ONE BIG FLAW:

You said there are TWO Madaras right (we all witnessed)....okay

If there are two maddys around then they are both dead by now!

Why:

The old maddy in the cave (whether Izanagi or real) is dead from the separation from gedo, even IF he was Edo'ed he would be too old and weak to do anything. Okay so that's ONE.


Now that leaves the one in the coffin, the one we will refer to as the current Madara. If it is true that there was a body in the coffin, and that body was young Madara. It is possible that was the body kabuto found, which means that body was the Edo Madara, which means that body:

was rinne revived

became so6p Madara

got soloed by BZ

and died talking to Hashi in the end of the Kygua battle

(Tobirama would have also known if Maddy was acting dead in the coffin since he was "experimenting" on him, there is no way out of there alive for him; even so, you STILL need a body of young Maddy to edo which means that one of them HAS to die young.)

So thats it, there are no more Maddys around because they both died at separate times. If you say there are THREE Maddies you will have to reform the ENTIRE THEORY thus making you wrong. Check Mate

even then Edo Madara was summoned in his prime because he was special

 

[minamoto]

Even if all you say is TRUE Minamoto :

ONE BIG FLAW:

You said there are TWO Madaras right (we all witnessed)....okay

If there are two maddys around then they are both dead by now!

Why:

The old maddy in the cave (whether Izanagi or real) is dead from the separation from gedo, even IF he was Edo'ed he would be too old and weak to do anything. Okay so that's ONE.


Now that leaves the one in the coffin, the one we will refer to as the current Madara. If it is true that there was a body in the coffin, and that body was young Madara. It is possible that was the body kabuto found, which means that body was the Edo Madara, which means that body:

was rinne revived

became so6p Madara

got soloed by BZ

and died talking to Hashi in the end of the Kygua battle

(Tobirama would have also known if Maddy was acting dead in the coffin since he was "experimenting" on him, there is no way out of there alive for him; even so, you STILL need a body of young Maddy to edo which means that one of them HAS to die young.)

So thats it, there are no more Maddys around because they both died at separate times. If you say there are THREE Maddies you will have to reform the ENTIRE THEORY thus making you wrong. Check Mate

Even if all you say is TRUE Minamoto :

ONE BIG FLAW:

You said there are TWO Madaras right (we all witnessed)....okay

If there are two maddys around then they are both dead by now!

Why:

The old maddy in the cave (whether Izanagi or real) is dead from the separation from gedo, even IF he was Edo'ed he would be too old and weak to do anything. Okay so that's ONE.


Now that leaves the one in the coffin, the one we will refer to as the current Madara. If it is true that there was a body in the coffin, and that body was young Madara. It is possible that was the body kabuto found, which means that body was the Edo Madara, which means that body:

was rinne revived

became so6p Madara

got soloed by BZ

and died talking to Hashi in the end of the Kygua battle

(Tobirama would have also known if Maddy was acting dead in the coffin since he was "experimenting" on him, there is no way out of there alive for him; even so, you STILL need a body of young Maddy to edo which means that one of them HAS to die young.)

So thats it, there are no more Maddys around because they both died at separate times. If you say there are THREE Maddies you will have to reform the ENTIRE THEORY thus making you wrong. Check Mate

didn't i already tell you that.... : for me madara being tobi is a fact....BUT THE THEORITIC PART is how Tobidara came to existence??...and thats how i came up with the izanagi theory.....also you misunderstood my izanagi theory

-but nvm i'll try and answer you and give you my theory again :

1-Madara didn't really die against hashi but instead was just in "momentary death"...thats why tobirama thought he was dead despite his body being reall and not A CLONE!!...(btw "momentary death" google it or narutopedia it..its a ninja thechnique used to fake one's death..Sabuza once used it) ...

2-madara had already installed izanagi, but he didn't die and was just in momentary death...however this didn't stop the izanagi from autoactivating and taking its effect... hence it created a 2nd Madara....


3-now we dont know when exactly tobidara was created by izanagi..it could have happned after tobirama was convinced that the body in the coffin was madara's true body...

4-fight tobi vs konan notice well how tobi relates his true identity with izanagi...its as if he was saying :" im the madara who used izanagi against hashirama'!

5-see??...my izanagi theory is more plausible then your's....becuz your's states that tobirama was unable to distinguish a clone from a reall madara..wich completly doesn't make sense since tobirama is the one who invinted shadow clone jutsu..HOWEVER!!!!...even if my theory sounded more plausible then you'rs ..you could in the end be right..becuz what i proposed of izanagi was just pure THEORY...OR AN ATTEMPT ANSWER.........how tobidara was created or come to existence isnt important to me...but what matter is to prove that tobi is madara

 

[T0bidara]

here's the thing.......

yes tobi=Madara.....

BUT here's the thing is tobi was Madara in name ONLY......

under the mask tobi is was and has always been Obito, of course he knew about Inzangi because Madara taught him a bunch of techs......

 

[NewMaster7]

didn't i already tell you that.... : for me madara being tobi is a fact....BUT THE THEORITIC PART is how Tobidara came to existence??...and thats how i came up with the izanagi theory.....also you misunderstood my izanagi theory

-but nvm i'll try and answer you and give you my theory again :

1-Madara didn't really die against hashi but instead was just in "momentary death"...thats why tobirama thought he was dead despite his body being reall and not A CLONE!!...(btw "momentary death" google it or narutopedia it..its a ninja thechnique used to fake one's death..Sabuza once used it) ...

2-madara had already installed izanagi, but he didn't die and was just in momentary death...however this didn't stop the izanagi from autoactivating and taking its effect... hence it created a 2nd Madara....


3-now we dont know when exactly tobidara was created by izanagi..it could have happned after tobirama was convinced that the body in the coffin was madara's true body...

4-fight tobi vs konan notice well how tobi relates his true identity with izanagi...its as if he was saying :" im the madara who used izanagi against hashirama'!

5-see??...my izanagi theory is more plausible then your's....becuz your's states that tobirama was unable to distinguish a clone from a reall madara..wich completly doesn't make sense since tobirama is the one who invinted shadow clone jutsu..HOWEVER!!!!...even if my theory sounded more plausible then you'rs ..you could in the end be right..becuz what i proposed of izanagi was just pure THEORY...OR AN ATTEMPT ANSWER.........how tobidara was created or come to existence isnt important to me...but what matter is to prove that tobi is madara

Im going to do this short and simple.


Minamoto tobidara theory= 2 madaras (or maddys)


Maddy #1 (whether inzangi or real ) = dead from old age. #FACT

Maddy#2 (whether inzangi or real ) = dead from juubi removal #FACT Hagoromo stated that he was dead. (only thing that can save him now is rinne tensei)

Edo Maddy FACT:

Revealed to be young

conclusion Edo Maddy = Maddy #2 = DEAD


2 Maddys - 2 Maddys = 0 Maddys


END Credit: No Maddys left to throw a plot twist.

 

[NewMaster7]

To become Edo you must be dead #FACT. So you need to explain why is there a dead body in that edo coffin; even more, why it was a young maddy.

Go ahead, I will wait.

 

[Darkboy85]

Im going to do this short and simple.


Minamoto tobidara theory= 2 madaras (or maddys)


Maddy #1 (whether inzangi or real ) = dead from old age. #FACT

Maddy#2 (whether inzangi or real ) = dead from juubi removal #FACT Hagoromo stated that he was dead. (only thing that can save him now is rinne tensei)

Edo Maddy FACT:

Revealed to be young

conclusion Edo Maddy = Maddy #2 = DEAD


2 Maddys - 2 Maddys = 0 Maddys


END Credit: No Maddys left to throw a plot twist.

That math is on point man. +rep

 

[NewMaster7]

LOL Dat math theory had me like: _@:_@:_@:_@:

 

[minamoto]

To become Edo you must be dead #FACT. So you need to explain why is there a dead body in that edo coffin; even more, why it was a young maddy.

Go ahead, I will wait.

one of the madara's died (edo madara)...the other madara stayed alive (tobidara)....

-when kabuto found madara's corpse he realized that he didn't die in his fight with hashirama...simply becuz madara body was too old wich logically mean that he died long time after the valley of end fight...kabuto then did some enhencements and rejuveniled madara's body...

-then kabuto showed the coffin of edomadara to Tobi...then tobi said "where did you GET THAT??"..its as of tobi was treating the body of madara as something...what tobi meant is "where did you get my vessel?"....

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-then kabuto reponded tobi back :

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tobi told kabuto :" i got hashirama's cells from my fight with him in the vally of end"....he also told kabuto " the Rinnagn of nagato was mine to begin with"...why would tobi lie to kabuto when kabuto already found out tobi's secret..


-kishimoto tricked us : just becuz madara got rinnetenseid, does that mean he was dead?...nooo ..why? cuz the other madara tobidara is still alive.....thus what is the purpose of rinnetensei?....ITS BECUZ IT REJUVENILES MADARA'S BODY AND GETS HIS BODY BACK TO ITS GOLDEN AGE!.....thus...the body of rikudo madara will be perfect body...and tobidara is the empty sheel of madara....

thats how tobidara will get his reall vessel madara back to its golden age...

-dont be tricked by kishi....when madara got out of the coffin he said "SO IT FINALLY HAPPNED..SO NAGATO HAS GROWN UP"...he didnt say "so finally nagato revived me"...becuz the rinnetensei wasn't meant to revive madara as much as it was meant to rejuvenile his body....

-tobidara's plan completely changed becuz of kabuto edotenseing the reall madara...TOBIDARA WILL LET OBITO ACT BY HIS FREE WILL.....


-madara then spoke with tobidara while obito freezed and went off consiousness...........and understood that tobidara has changed his /their plans

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[minamoto]

LOL Dat math theory had me like: _@:_@:_@:_@:

nice try byron123

 

[NewMaster7]

one of the madara's died (edo madara)...the other madara stayed alive (tobidara)....

-when kabuto found madara's corpse he realized that he didn't die in his fight with hashirama...simply becuz madara body was too old wich logically mean that he died long time after the valley of end fight...kabuto then did some enhencements and rejuveniled madara's body...

-then kabuto showed the coffin of edomadara to Tobi...then tobi said "where did you GET THAT??"..its as of tobi was treating the body of madara as something...what tobi meant is "where did you get my vessel?"....

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-then kabuto reponded tobi back :

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tobi told kabuto :" i got hashirama's cells from my fight with him in the vally of end"....he also told kabuto " the Rinnagn of nagato was mine to begin with"...why would tobi lie to kabuto when kabuto already found out tobi's secret..



-kishimoto tricked us : just becuz madara got rinnetenseid, does that mean he was dead?...nooo ..why? cuz the other madara tobidara is still alive.....thus what is the purpose of rinnetensei?....ITS BECUZ IT REJUVENILES MADARA'S BODY AND GETS HIS BODY BACK TO ITS GOLDEN AGE!.....thus...the body of rikudo madara will be perfect body...and tobidara is the empty sheel of madara....

thats how tobidara will get his reall vessel madara back to its golden age...

-dont be tricked by kishi....when madara got out of the coffin he said "SO IT FINALLY HAPPNED..SO NAGATO HAS GROWN UP"...he didnt say "so finally nagato revived me"...becuz the rinnetensei wasn't meant to revive madara as much as it was meant to rejuvenile his body....

-tobidara's plan completely changed becuz of kabuto edotenseing the reall madara...TOBIDARA WILL LET OBITO ACT BY HIS FREE WILL.....


-madara then spoke with tobidara while obito freezed and went off consiousness...........and understood that tobidara has changed his /their plans

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You say Obito is using a part of Tobidara's real body RIGHT????? OK

ONE WHERE ARE THE OTHER PARTS OF HIS BODY????

TWO IF HIS BODY CAN BE DISMANTLED THEN HE IS DEAD!!!!!

THREE IF HE IS INSIDE OBITO THEN HE CANNOT HAVE A PHYSICAL BODY AND THUS DIED WHEN OBITO WAS ASHED.

HIS BODY IS DISMANTLED AND HIS ESSENCE IS IN OBITO = DEATH

 

[NewMaster7]

Stop trying to peg me as an alt bro, you can't deal with the continuous slaps I give your theory so you try to demonize my character for your sake.

 

[NewMaster7]

You say Obito is using a part of Tobidara's real body RIGHT????? OK

ONE WHERE ARE THE OTHER PARTS OF HIS BODY????

TWO IF HIS BODY CAN BE DISMANTLED THEN HE IS DEAD!!!!!

THREE IF HE IS INSIDE OBITO THEN HE CANNOT HAVE A PHYSICAL BODY AND THUS DIED WHEN OBITO WAS ASHED.

HIS BODY IS DISMANTLED AND HIS ESSENCE IS IN OBITO = DEATH

No matter how you try to explain

Maddy #1

MADDY #2

Obito (Maddy #0.5)

Are all dead.

2.5 MADDY - 2.5 MADDY = Tobidara soloed neg diff

 

[xXRolex]

here's the thing.......

yes tobi=Madara.....

BUT here's the thing is tobi was Madara in name ONLY......

under the mask tobi is was and has always been Obito, of course he knew about Inzangi because Madara taught him a bunch of techs......

how exactly is tobi madara ?