Honestly, Danzo was the only Shinobi with some damn sense.

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His philosophy was real. Everyone else's involves things that just aint gonna happen.

Naruto- This guy is the biggest idiot of them all. He really thinks he can completely rid the world of hatred? Thats impossible. As long as there is free will and love, there will be hatred.

Sasuke- Fear doesn't equal respect. He thinks killing the kages for the mistakes they made will help things when in reality, it will only make them worse. People may fear him, but no one will respect him. Besides, there will be revolts because he killed someone's friends and family.

Madara- Free will is what makes us human. Madara wanted to take that away. Thats a screwed up way to live.

Danzo- Danzo chose to deal with the darkness himself. I think he reality that there will always be darkness and hatred, so he chose to squash it when it appears and let the kages handle the legal matters. He kept in real.

I also liked Nagatos idea of using the bijuu weapons for each village. He also realized that there will always be darkness lurking somewhere.
 

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As much as I hate him, you are right.

Although the problem is he didn't leave any room at all for some humanity in his plans.
His way was the only way, but it was unacceptable .
 

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Danzo was one of the only characters in Naruto i would call a "Shinobi/Ninja" ´he was an ******* yes, but still i think u know the drill :snick:
 

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Madara and Sasuke just wanted the best for the world. Madara gave everyone their dreams and Sasuke is getting rid of the problems in the Shinobi world.
 

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i agree with you but he was not the only shinobi with this mind set tobirama had it along with nagato and itachi, konan and
yahiko and even all these shinobi moved in the darkness so the people in the light could live good nut i agree +rep
 

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i agree with you but he was not the only shinobi with this mind set tobirama had it along with nagato and itachi, konan and
yahiko and even all these shinobi moved in the darkness so the people in the light could live good nut i agree +rep

edit: i still hate danzo though lol
 

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Danzo was one of the true shinobi in this manga.
 

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His philosophy was real. Everyone else's involves things that just aint gonna happen.

Naruto- This guy is the biggest idiot of them all. He really thinks he can completely rid the world of hatred? Thats impossible. As long as there is free will and love, there will be hatred.

Sasuke- Fear doesn't equal respect. He thinks killing the kages for the mistakes they made will help things when in reality, it will only make them worse. People may fear him, but no one will respect him. Besides, there will be revolts because he killed someone's friends and family.

Madara- Free will is what makes us human. Madara wanted to take that away. Thats a screwed up way to live.

Danzo- Danzo chose to deal with the darkness himself. I think he reality that there will always be darkness and hatred, so he chose to squash it when it appears and let the kages handle the legal matters. He kept in real.

I also liked Nagatos idea of using the bijuu weapons for each village. He also realized that there will always be darkness lurking somewhere.

How did Danzo have sense? When he made the Uchiha massacre happens that resulted in Itachi joining Akatsuki and Sasuke going down a dark path which kills Danzo and threaten the world, that he was Orochimaru benefactor who approved his experiments on children, women and men, that he manipulated Hanzo into trying to get rid of Nagato/Yahiko/Konan which resulted in Nagato and Konan joining Obito, that he made Kabuto and his mother figure fight to the death which made Kabuto be turned evil by Orochimaru, that he tries to gain power by force like Sasuke is doing now but with his KA (becoming a Hokage and Alliance leader).

That common sense you spoke of caused many deaths and helped no one. If Damzo died instead of Tobirama the future would have been much brighter.
 

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How did Danzo have sense? When he made the Uchiha massacre happens that resulted in Itachi joining Akatsuki and Sasuke going down a dark path which kills Danzo and threaten the world, that he was Orochimaru benefactor who approved his experiments on children, women and men, that he manipulated Hanzo into trying to get rid of Nagato/Yahiko/Konan which resulted in Nagato and Konan joining Obito, that he made Kabuto and his mother figure fight to the death which made Kabuto be turned evil by Orochimaru, that he tries to gain power by force like Sasuke is doing now but with his KA (becoming a Hokage and Alliance leader).

That common sense you spoke of caused many deaths and helped no one. If Damzo died instead of Tobirama the future would have been much brighter.

Lets see...the Uchiha massacre vs them attacking the village, trying to overthrow the kages, leaving the village vulnerable to attacks from other villages....yeah id wipe them out too.
 

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Lets see...the Uchiha massacre vs them attacking the village, trying to overthrow the kages, leaving the village vulnerable to attacks from other villages....yeah id wipe them out too.

Oh you mean the coup that Danzo made worst in the first place or have you forgot that Danzo didn't allow the Uchihas to help against Kurama when Obito attack which made villagers mad that the Uchihas didn't help which caused many people to die plus made them think the Uchihas might have been behind the attack since the Sharingan can control Bijuus plus them not helping makes it looks like they were behind it. He then put them under watch which not only made them look more guilty in the eyes of the people but further infuriated the Uchihas.

Had Danzo allowed the Uchihas to help, there would have been less death and the Uchiha would feel like they aren't being blamed and oppressed as Danzo made them feel. He even took Shisui's eye when he wanted to use it on Itachi's dad to stop the coup but Danzo didn't trust Shusui and that only lead to the Uchihas dead.
 

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Madara and Sasuke just wanted the best for the world. Madara gave everyone their dreams and Sasuke is getting rid of the problems in the Shinobi world.

The problems being Tsunade, Mei and Gaara ?
 

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Oh you mean the coup that Danzo made worst in the first place or have you forgot that Danzo didn't allow the Uchihas to help against Kurama when Obito attack which made villagers mad that the Uchihas didn't help which caused many people to die plus made them think the Uchihas might have been behind the attack since the Sharingan can control Bijuus plus them not helping makes it looks like they were behind it. He then put them under watch which not only made them look more guilty in the eyes of the people but further infuriated the Uchihas.

Had Danzo allowed the Uchihas to help, there would have been less death and the Uchiha would feel like they aren't being blamed and oppressed as Danzo made them feel. He even took Shisui's eye when he wanted to use it on Itachi's dad to stop the coup but Danzo didn't trust Shusui and that only lead to the Uchihas dead.

So wasnt there an Uchiha responsible for? They proved time and time again they couldn't be trusted.

However, the ones who were worthy like itachi, danzo respected and commended him.
 

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So wasnt there an Uchiha responsible for? They proved time and time again they couldn't be trusted.

However, the ones who were worthy like itachi, danzo respected and commended him.

You don't judge a whole race or clan for what one Uchiha or fewer Uchihas have done. If that was the case then Tobirama would have killed them all but he didn't hate them he only feared what they can become and tried to limit the risk by separating them from the clan when they were in a time that they didn't have as much control. Danzo didn't respect Itachi, he manipulated him into doing his dirty work.
 

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Danzo became a megalomaniac himself out of feeling inferior to Hiruzen. I'm not sure where you are coming from calling his philosophies "real" :coffee:
 

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You don't judge a whole race or clan for what one Uchiha or fewer Uchihas have done. If that was the case then Tobirama would have killed them all but he didn't hate them he only feared what they can become and tried to limit the risk by separating them from the clan when they were in a time that they didn't have as much control. Danzo didn't respect Itachi, he manipulated him into doing his dirty work.

Lol....your comprehension skills suck.

First off all, Danzo....manipulate itachi? Yeah right.....he gave him the option. Itachi chose the one the would lead to less bloodshed.

Even hashi said itachi thought like a great hokage. Itachi thought more of the village as a whole more than just his cursed clan.
 

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Naruto's goal isn't unattainable.

But if he does attain the unattainable goal, there will be true peace. Sasuke's goal on the other hand, wouldnt even bring peace of any sort even if his idiotic plan does succeed. All he'll create is hatred and peace.
 

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But if he does attain the unattainable goal, there will be true peace. Sasuke's goal on the other hand, wouldnt even bring peace of any sort even if his idiotic plan does succeed. All he'll create is hatred and peace.

I think you misread my comment. I believe that Naruto's goal can be reached.
 
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