Sasuke's Plan is Logically Just

[Venomous Cobra]

So you're saying humans are wrong then? and sasuke isn't declaring war :|



Who attacked first? who warned them not to?



I rest my case because you are agreeing with me

What are you talking about? ??? He was obviously going to kill danzo and their job was t protect the hokage , it's not like they can do anything about it

 

[Darth Uchiha]

And what is naruto if I may ask

The exact opposite of Sasuke, he doesn't have announce of hate in him, acknowledges other people's ideals, and is only deciding the fate of the world by defending it, and letting it decide for itself once he's done.

 

[FoolzBeWeary]

Clearly
He is a part of current system himself which full of child soldiers and the people whom currently u r defending all have spilled blood for peace,Nationalism and personal gain so :|

So he is part of the problem not a solutions. I can name one person that has yet to spill any blood. Can you say Sasuke hasn't spilled any blood. But unlike Sasuke the other have admitted that their past thought process was wrong. Sasuke thinks everything can be solved by violence which is why the system now is so ****ed up.

 

[Scooby Doo]

LOL okay let's pretend that that's what's happening

Pretend? No need to pretend anything. I know the motives of your attitude, it's pretty common. Your arguments are weak so you're trying to make them look better by adopting a condescending manner. You didn't refute what I said, you refuted my person instead.

 

[TyrionUchiha]

Sasuke wants a REVOLUTION. By definition, it means that what's happening now WILL happen again somewhere along the line of his new shinobi system (given he won). So even if his plan comes to fruition during his lifetime, it'll fall apart. Simple as that.

 

[fiend]

The biggest problem with this plan of Sasuke is he is thinking, this is what everyone in the Narutoverse wants. It is his will that will reign supreme, there is no problem in a revolution but a revolution without peoples will is just a coup which gives rise to a dictator.

The biggest problem is Kishimoto is showing something different a powerful man imposing his will on the people, true change shall only come by inclusion of people not exclusion after all we are talking about lives of millions of people not just whims of one.

 

[ItachiDaSoloKing]

Or you can try to protect the child and use him for good, if you have two options, the third is usually best.

That what the alliance tried... that's what Konoha tried. they're tried to protect Kurama from being used for evil but like the Akatsuki did evil people will keep on coming and coming until they get what they want... their were plenty of measures token to keep the Biju safe... Yamatos Hand Seal... Minato's Seal... Splitting half its power... but it failed... evil WILL obtain it one way or another. it is really unfortunate for the innocent Biju but its reality.

that child will continue to be hunted they can not protect him. Same with 8 and 9 tails.

 

[PyRoxGoD]

Wow thanks for the info, and naruto isn't innocent, he is with the beast which technically makes him a conspirator



And what is naruto if I may ask[/QUOTE]

Lmfao this dude right here they both are not right but they both are not wrong tho sasuke plan is only bad cause he wants to become dictator naruto plan is bad because he just sprouting nonsense saying I want peace but not saying how he wants to tho unlike sasuke

 

[riley freeman]

Their are even more hate groups. Now that binladi is dead. Kill the heads doesn't fix the problem. It will be the same if Sasuke kills the gokages. Do you think that the people will just be ok with that.

Okay, I admit it's not the right decision, but it's the best and logical decision

I really think you need to reread the recent chapter.

I don't think you understand what Sasuke's plan is.

Isnt sasuke plan to remove all the major things that cause hatred

So you're saying humans are wrong then? and sasuke isn't declaring war :|



Who attacked first? who warned them not to?



But who was in area where he wasn't supposed to thats like me saying ima break into a military base and they wrong for shooting me I'm the one wrong cause I'm not suppose to be there sasuke killed them when he wasn't supposed to be there end of story u said somebody good he killed how are samurai bad they were doing job so ur point doesn't make sense

Agreed, sasuke made a foolish decision then, but was it really his fault? and that sasuke and current sasuke are different

 

[ItachiDaSoloKing]

Pretend? No need to pretend anything. I know the motives of your attitude, it's pretty common. Your arguments are weak so you're trying to make them look better by adopting a condescending manner. You didn't refute what I said, you refuted my person instead.

Pull out the troll shield Kobak...

 

[BLAZE]

Straw grasping isn't going to get you far. You will not be entertained anymore.

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as i thought
didn't even get what i said and still replied saying i m grasping straw :|

 

[xxSAGExx]

That's not the reason... you didn't get it.

THE 5 Kage are not ruling correctly... were not ruling correctly... and can not rule correctly.

they want the Biju to be free just like Naruto does which will cause problems in the world as it has and will

Gaara and Tsunade were ruling just fine, it was also Gaara who was talking about how the other Kages need to change how they handle things back at the Kage Summit. The thing is Sasuke doesn't know that people can change and it can happen in time. Gaara's speech consisted of Naruto's ideals which made 6 different nations (iron nation added with the 5 nations) who had issues with each other and he got them to see each other as comrades. This show that ninjas can change since enemies who lost friends and/or family members to another village fought together with them and moved passed their past hatred.

The 2 most hard headed of the Kages, A and Oonoki, began to fight as members of the alliance instead of leaders of their own village all because of Naruto. A letting Naruto enter the war and later acknowledges Naruto as Hokage by saying bowing seems to be a Hokage thing when they saw Hashirama bowing down to the other Kages in his time and remember Naruto bowing down. Oonoki out right said fighting with Naruto made him want to fight as an Alliance member and not as the Kage of his village. Sasuke wasn't there for any of that and he never thought about the nations all fighting together can show that they can change.

Only Naruto, Gaara, and Bee actually saw Bijuus being free, it never showed what any of the Kages thought of the Bijuus being free. We see that people can change so who would go after the Bijuus? Naruto can communicate with them so would know if they need help and all of the strong ninjas who can hope to capture them are on Naruto side but Sasuke and Orochimaru; I don't see Kabuto going after them since he isn't the same now.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

That what the alliance tried... that's what Konoha tried. they're tried to protect Kurama from being used for evil but like the Akatsuki did evil people will keep on coming and coming until they get what they want... their were plenty of measures token to keep the Biju safe... Yamatos Hand Seal... Minato's Seal... Splitting half its power... but it failed... evil WILL obtain it one way or another. it is really unfortunate for the innocent Biju but its reality.

that child will continue to be hunted they can not protect him. Same with 8 and 9 tails.

No they didn't, they didn't give a damn about Naruto, they saw him as a weapon, and Sasuke personally delivered 8 tails chakra, so, what's your point?

 

[ItachiDaSoloKing]

No they didn't, they didn't give a damn about Naruto, they saw him as a weapon, and Sasuke personally delivered 8 tails chakra, so, what's your point?

No that was not what I was saying.

I'm saying that Konoha also tried protecting the Biju...

they did everything they could to protect the Biju from evil but it failed... the evil will obtain power.

same with the child... you can protect him but he WILL be captured eventually... you are just postponing the inevitable.

 

[Yami no Kagutsuchi]

You have to believe in Sasuke.He is the smarter character after all

 

[FoolzBeWeary]

Okay, I admit it's not the right decision, but it's the best and logical decision



Isnt sasuke plan to remove all the major things that cause hatred

Agreed, sasuke made a foolish decision then, but was it really his fault? and that sasuke and current sasuke are different

It's not best or logically. Because if the people has a whole don't agree with it then it will only fail. That's why peace is so hard to obtain. Because it's hard to find common ground with everyone. That's why IMO narutos is better because it's closer to finding common ground with everyone. While sasukes plan are only his point of view.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

No that was not what I was saying.

I'm saying that Konoha also tried protecting the Biju...

they did everything they could to protect the Biju from evil but it failed... the evil will obtain power.

same with the child... you can protect him but he WILL be captured eventually... you are just postponing the inevitable.

No they didn't, Obito gained bijuu power through factors they couldn't control (Kabuto reviving Ginkaku and Kinkaku and Sasuke getting Bee's tail).

 

[SuperChief]

OP is factually stupid.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

You have to believe in Sasuke.He is the smarter character after all

Most of his actions really fail to show this...

 

[BLAZE]

So he is part of the problem not a solutions. I can name one person that has yet to spill any blood. Can you say Sasuke hasn't spilled any blood. But unlike Sasuke the other have admitted that their past thought process was wrong. Sasuke thinks everything can be solved by violence which is why the system now is so ****ed up.

Have i ever Denied it
Yes has spilled blood.Yes his action aren't justifiable.Yes the System might end in faliure
But a change can only be brought through revolution thus creating a stable system for long time