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Sasuke eye is probably better than the standard rinnegan
Juubi only had one Sharinnegan, Madara only had one Sharinnegan, Kaguya only had one Sharinnegan... he won't just magically grow another one of those
and what good would it be to get one standard rinnegan when he already has Sharinnegan, with the standard rinnegan abilities (probably)!?

Hagoromo full strength doesn't resume only to eye power
he has senjutsu (which Nardo obtained)
he also had the juubi

rinnegan was just a portion of his power... lets say half, the half Sasuke gained

First, no such thing called ''Sharinnegan''; it's Rinnegan [ ]. Second, it's not better when Madara said it's eye which he has in his arsenal. Third, I'm talking about Hagoromo when not being a Jinchuuriki. That is where the source of his power comes from his Rinnegan. Why?

-He created all 4th Ninjutsu through the Rinnegan.
-He mastered all elements through the Rinnegan.

You realize that by getting Ashura's Chakra, you get Rikudou's body; thus enabling you to acquire Senjutsu? You realize that by getting Ashura's Chakra in conjunction with Indra's Sharingan, Hagoromo's power is automatically bloomed and the Rinnegan is awakened? That is all stated in the manga. Read chapter 671.​
 

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Sssuke isn't getting a second eye. He's proven that he can access the Rinnegan's full powers with only one eye. And yes, his Finnegan will obviously surpass his Susanoo. Doesn't make any sense for it to be weaker.




Your point? Sasuke only needed a sphere large enough to hold the bijuu. Obviously not the best he can do.



If you think any of this is happening...you are clearly delusional.

-Sasuke has reached his full power. So has Naruto. No one is getting a power up. Naruto isn't going to be pummeling Sasuke either. Nothing but nonsense. If anything it'll be the other way around, or it'll be evenly matched since Sasukes new powers need to be hyped up


Not bothering with 1. As it will be an opinionated discussion and a debate on this part will lead to a constant train of bickering over stuff that can't be confirmed until later. My opinion is from the implication that susanoo is his ace in the hole, and I have a scan that can support this, unless somehow he magically got more powerful abilities again.


2. Ok, but everyone now is freaking out with "OMG, Sasuke uses a planetary devastation barly above Nagato's size, he's so stronger than Naruto!" My point is, he can't be as powerful as Madara as his senjutsu is not as good, so the fuel for the jutsu isn't as good. Not saying this is his limit, it's a vague way of saying "CALM DOWN!" He hasn't shown anything on the level for hype to be increased. By feats, other than brainwashing, he's really only using watered down versions of what we've already seen. This chapter means that he has deva path, not that he's a god with it.


3. Oh, I'm delusional am I?! Do you realize, that for this fight to be the least bit interesting, since we've seen a lot of powers from both of them, that they'll have to get a buff? Otherwise, this will be one quick, boring fight. Plot demands they get some power buffs. What was the point of introducing double rinnegan for about 2 chapters with Madara and its hype? What was the point of Hagoromo's holy sword being introduced in 1 chapter with all its hype? Why does it suspiciously sound linked to Kaguya's abilities?

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You're telling me that there's no room for a buff?
 

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First, no such thing called ''Sharinnegan''; it's Rinnegan [ ]. Second, it's not better when Madara said it's eye which he has in his arsenal. Third, I'm talking about Hagoromo when not being a Jinchuuriki. That is where the source of his power comes from his Rinnegan. Why?

-He created all 4th Ninjutsu through the Rinnegan.
-He mastered all elements through the Rinnegan.

You realize that by getting Ashura's Chakra, you get Rikudou's body; thus enabling you to acquire Senjutsu? You realize that by getting Ashura's Chakra in conjunction with Indra's Sharingan, Hagoromo's power is automatically bloomed and the Rinnegan is awakened? That is all stated in the manga. Read chapter 671.​

dude...
sharinnegan, juubi eye, rinnegan with tomes... whatever you wanna call it, it's obvious it's not the standard rinnegan
the standard rinnegan doesn't have tomoes, and you need the one with tomoes to cast tsuki no me, for example

now Hagoromo power only comes from the eyes!?!? WTF!?!?
everyone can do ninjutsu, even without doujutsu. your example sucks
Onoki can use Jinton, which uses 3 elements, does he have a doujutsu? NO
Hagoromo is also known for sealings, does he need doujutsu for that!?!? NO

Madara had Indra and Ashura chakra, and did you see him enter SM alone!?!? did he have senjutsu already!?!? NO
he had to steal it from Hashi... and guess what, the senjutsu marks appeared on Hashi's face (that's on his chest)

Sasuke doesn't have So6P full power dude, and won't have it even if he awakens another rinnegan (a standard one, dunno for what, but oh well)


I'll help you out...
you wanna say Sasuke has a portion of his body power because of Ashura!?!? ok, I can agree with that
so we could say he has the eyes and a portion of his body power
guess what!?!? Naruto has his body power, senjutsu and the bijuus... that's still closer to Hagoromo prime than Sasuke's lol
 
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Not bothering with 1. As it will be an opinionated discussion and a debate on this part will lead to a constant train of bickering over stuff that can't be confirmed until later. My opinion is from the implication that susanoo is his ace in the hole, and I have a scan that can support this, unless somehow he magically got more powerful abilities again.

Did you not read the chapter? Getting used to Rinnegan=New, stronger abilities. You can continue believing that a Sharingan technique will be his ace in the hole, even though Madara was in Sasuke's same exact position, and he pretty much confirmed that Rinnegan at its best>>Sharingan at its best, and when Naruto has the power to smack Susanoo around like Kaguya did.

There is literally no evidence you have that supports Susanoo being Sasuke's best technique now that he has full control over the Rinnegan None whatsoever.


2. Ok, but everyone now is freaking out with "OMG, Sasuke uses a planetary devastation barly above Nagato's size, he's so stronger than Naruto!" My point is, he can't be as powerful as Madara as his senjutsu is not as good, so the fuel for the jutsu isn't as good. Not saying this is his limit, it's a vague way of saying "CALM DOWN!" He hasn't shown anything on the level for hype to be increased. By feats, other than brainwashing, he's really only using watered down versions of what we've already seen. This chapter means that he has deva path, not that he's a god with it.

Well, naturally this feat doesn't put him above Naruto. Though watered down? He used his target as the core for the Chibaku Tensei. Madara nor Nagato have shown that ability. In fact, only the Six Paths Chibaku Tensei sealing jutsu has shown to be able to do that.

3. Oh, I'm delusional am I?! Do you realize, that for this fight to be the least bit interesting, since we've seen a lot of powers from both of them, that they'll have to get a buff? Otherwise, this will be one quick, boring fight.

Sasuke has new abilities, and Naruto hasn't used the abilities of the rest of the Bijuu, nor has he used any sort of Gudo Dama manipulation. No more buffs will be given. Naruto isn't getting any more "Rikudo Senjutsu" and Sasuke isn't getting a second Rinnegan. Nor will Sasuke get smacked around by Naruto till he gets a buff. They are evenly matched as of now. (I hope)

I'll admit that there is a possibility of it happening, a small one though.

Plot demands they get some power buffs.
No it doesn't.

What was the point of introducing double rinnegan for about 2 chapters with Madara and its hype?

For Madara. Not Sasuke.

What was the point of Hagoromo's holy sword being introduced in 1 chapter with all its hype? Why does it suspiciously sound linked to Kaguya's abilities?

For Obito, not Naruto. Something that turned out to be trumped by Naruto and Sasuke in the end. Only more reason for it NOT to come back. And no, it doesn't sound linked to her abilities at all.


You're telling me that there's no room for a buff?

Yup.

Sasuke negs Naruto cant counter Tsuki no mi inb4 it wasit tsuki no mi it was

remember kaguya had used this tech before there was a moon she basically casted it over large groups of people. With that being said Sasuke literally 1 shots the bijuu are useless as naruto would have been finished the 2nd chapter when madz got double rinne if it wasit for sasuke protecting him from tsuki no mi

however if this is restricted it go either leaning towards sasuke tho

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I agree with some points
and when I said "rinnegan won't simply surpass PS", wasn't trying to say it would be weaker. not weaker not stronger, both useful, IMO of course
and I bet he'll use PS in this fight :p

I doubt it.

absorbing techs leaves him open for an attack
also Nardo can use multiple attacks
also if one of Nardo's techs already detonated, it would be better to use susano'o for defense
etc

Judging off of the showings of other Rinnegan users isn't wise.

about Madara
again, I agree with some of your points
but lets see something... let's remove limbo for this discussion, because that's most likely his unique ability, and we're discussing Sasky, which might not have it
I think Madara would have a harder time dealing with the 5 kages if he used rinnegan alone (excluding Limbo), while if he used his "full power", he'd have stomped them with no difficulty from the start

Nope. Not a chance. He's made it clear that his Rinnegan's full powers>>His Sharingan's full powers, so what he could do with his Sharingan is something he'll replicate with his stronger eye. How is irrelevant.

in other words, I think Gokage would stand a better chance against Madara with rinnegan (without Limbo)than they would against PS
apart from Limbo, CT would the next most troublesome move, but Jinton could obliterate the core
Because you have seen nothing the Double Rinnegan can perform outside of Chibaku Tensei and Limbo (Which you aren't taking into account) Madara was hyped to be invincible with both eyes, he definitely has more. Not to mention destroying the core probably isn't even an option.

-Madara can use more than one.

-He's probably able to make his targets into the core as well.

-They form way to quickly to destroy them.

An Alive Double Rinnegan Madara would brutalize an Alive EMS Madara and he'd shitstomp the Gokage even harder than EMS Madara would.


before he even became a Juubi Jin he also got SM from Hashirama
his senses and durabilty got a boost, also his jutsus got a boost
he got another boost when he became a Jin... so rinnegan was all he needed really, coupled with the fact that he was immortal and could only be damaged by senjutsu attacks (or jutsus with the sage's chakra)and taijutsu
also there's no guarantee he could use PS, he probably could, we just don't know sure

That just shows that Rinnegan is still superior, as he used that and not Sharingan. Take away the boosts, and the gap between them will still be the same, so the boosts aren't a reason to say that he didn't need Susanoo.
 

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They are roughly equal now, Naruto takes this until we receive sufficient feats to put them (completely) on par with each other.

Though we should all know, this is going to be an extreme difficulty fight for both Naruto and Sasuke.
 

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They are evenly matched as of now. (I hope)

well, KG
I only need to take this part from one of your last posts
cause I agree with, and pretty much sums it all up nicely ;)

this is the final battle (most likely), and Kishi will obviously try to entertain the readers
don't think it matters much now who has better techs, chakra, and so on... if this was one sided, it wouldn't be fun for anyone
that's what I think it will happen

I doubt it.



Judging off of the showings of other Rinnegan users isn't wise.



Nope. Not a chance. He's made it clear that his Rinnegan's full powers>>His Sharingan's full powers, so what he could do with his Sharingan is something he'll replicate with his stronger eye. How is irrelevant.


Because you have seen nothing the Double Rinnegan can perform outside of Chibaku Tensei and Limbo (Which you aren't taking into account) Madara was hyped to be invincible with both eyes, he definitely has more. Not to mention destroying the core probably isn't even an option.

-Madara can use more than one.

-He's probably able to make his targets into the core as well.

-They form way to quickly to destroy them.

An Alive Double Rinnegan Madara would brutalize an Alive EMS Madara and he'd shitstomp the Gokage even harder than EMS Madara would.




That just shows that Rinnegan is still superior, as he used that and not Sharingan. Take away the boosts, and the gap between them will still be the same, so the boosts aren't a reason to say that he didn't need Susanoo.

but to not seem like I'm ignoring your post, I'll reply lol
and again, I can agree with part of it, if not most of it
and I restricted Limbo in that post, simply because ultimately we're talking about Sasuke
and I think Madara and Sasuke are quite different... for example, Sasuke doesn't have Madara reserves, healing factor, and so on. which he got from Hashirama. and he also won't become a Jink
so IMO, the PS for Sasuke will still be one of his most important techs, even though he has rinnegan
but this is just opinion, soon enough we'll see how things go xD
 

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-Sasuke has proven he has all the Rinnegan's techniques after using a Deva path technique at an extremely proficient level. That means Preta easily absorbs the explosion. He makes it explode in Nardo's face with ST, or teleports it into Naruto, which in turn also explodes in Naruto's face.
I cleearly said based on what we have seen, so i dont see the point of making assumptions

however you are still wrong, before naruto simply fires off more Bijuu RS and BDRS, narruto can simply spam more of his attacks,, and can do so quite easily through the use of clones as well,

with immense speed and reflexes would also easily overwhelm sasuke from multiple directions, and his deva path technique still most likely has a cooldown, and naruto is more than capable of attacking him at the interval

Sasukes range of S/T is also quite minimal, so hes not teleporting BDRS right onto naruto, not to mention that he has to prepare his rinnegan in-order to use his S/T jutsu,
and the fact that naruto can still use his RSM shunshin as well as his sensing to react to sasukes S/T just how he reacted to kaguyas interdimensional travelling, therefore even making that moot

-CT along with mass scale genjutsu would make them more than vulnerable to the CT. They can't do any jutsu while being pulled into the CT which starts engulfing them from the ground. Large scale omnidirectional ST's would make the clones nigh useless. ST would unconditionally clear them. Enton would clear them. Summons would hinder them. PS would smash them.
Lmao, is nothing infront of ,
The same island sized CT that naruto eradicated through his BDRS with utmost ease,
therefore sasukes CT is not doing anything at all,

Sasukes genjutsu is also getting countered by naruto through his sensing, as well as his partner method,
naruto can still use his bijuu to snap him out of it rather quickly, as the bijuu are not going to be affected by genjutsu the same way taht naruto would and viceversa

and please, sasukes ''large scale ST'' have not been shown yet, and even then they are not doing much as naruto can easily attack him during the attacks cooldown, and you giving him this feat despite him not showing it is completely unnecessary,

and Lol at enton being a factor, it is easily sensed by naruto and his clones as they evade it with utmost ease, also Lol at summons ''hindering'' naruto, one Bijuu RS, YRS or BDRS and they are all eradicated,
narutos attacks have a vast AOE and all his summons are getting one-shotted

PS is getting wrecked by a barrage of BIjuu RS and BDRS as well, especially as these BDRS have more than enough firepower to bypass his PS,, and allow naruto to finish him off

-Genjutsu still can hinder Nardo, as Bee has already shown, breaking out of genjutsu isn't instant even whilst being a perfect jin. There is a few second interval, of which Sasuke knows of (and even experienced) which can potentially be utilised via S/T.
Unlike Bee, Naruto has 9 bijuu with him that still allow him to break free, as well as speeds that allowed him to blitz kaguya, as well as RSM sensing, that allow him to counter genjuts, as well as several clones that sasuke has not shown the feats yet to decipher
genjutsu is not being used simultaneously with his S/T jutsu thats fanfic, especially when sasuke cant form diversions such as KB

and using his S/T jutsu is alsso not effective when naruto can just get his clones to attack sasuke if he proceeds to attack the real naruto, and its also just hindering sasuke if he attempts to use genjutsu on a clone since that would just allow naruto and the other 100 or so KB to attack him

-Assuming that Naruto is watched. Assuming he isn't being temporarily hindered by genjutsu, that takes a few second to break out of. Assuming Sasuke watches him throw TBBFRS. Assuming Naruto can throw TBBFRS while being so close to it, given he can only use it at ranges he's far from.

Ultimately, it's PS with Enton, along with teleportation and Rinnegan abilities. Nardo has a counter to each separately, but when used simultaneously Naruto is left speechless. Oh, and BT>Amateratsu/Enton gg.
his PS is not tanking 6 BDRS, and Naruto can create even moore, hell he can simply spam them, firing each through his clones whilst the real one fires off 6 BDRS, sasuke is getting wrecked from multiple directions
and his enton is utmost non factor here, im surprrised why you are even mentioning this attack,,
lmao sasuke is not firing off ST, S/T, Amatearsu and Susanoo simultaneously, thats nothing but fanfic,
he also lacks the diversions like naruto to do such a thing,

naruto on the other hand can fire off BDRS, and Biijuu RS, as well as his flash shunshin and use his TSB attacks simultaneously since he has the several clones that allow him to do so,
as sasuke is vastly outnumbered and outclassed here, & based off what we have seen so far, this fight is no more than mid diff for naruto
 

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Did you not read the chapter? Getting used to Rinnegan=New, stronger abilities. You can continue believing that a Sharingan technique will be his ace in the hole, even though Madara was in Sasuke's same exact position, and he pretty much confirmed that Rinnegan at its best>>Sharingan at its best, and when Naruto has the power to smack Susanoo around like Kaguya did.

There is literally no evidence you have that supports Susanoo being Sasuke's best technique now that he has full control over the Rinnegan None whatsoever.




Well, naturally this feat doesn't put him above Naruto. Though watered down? He used his target as the core for the Chibaku Tensei. Madara nor Nagato have shown that ability. In fact, only the Six Paths Chibaku Tensei sealing jutsu has shown to be able to do that.



Sasuke has new abilities, and Naruto hasn't used the abilities of the rest of the Bijuu, nor has he used any sort of Gudo Dama manipulation. No more buffs will be given. Naruto isn't getting any more "Rikudo Senjutsu" and Sasuke isn't getting a second Rinnegan. Nor will Sasuke get smacked around by Naruto till he gets a buff. They are evenly matched as of now. (I hope)

I'll admit that there is a possibility of it happening, a small one though.


No it doesn't.



For Madara. Not Sasuke.



For Obito, not Naruto. Something that turned out to be trumped by Naruto and Sasuke in the end. Only more reason for it NOT to come back. And no, it doesn't sound linked to her abilities at all.




Yup.



Fanfic isn't allowed.

Applauds, I finally agree with everything you have said KG65. Apart from, nardo smacking sasukes PS around? lawl, not happening, it's safe to assume that sasuke PS is equivalent to his own speed. Coated with enton and its demonstrated precision, and swiftness feats, It's not getting hit by any ninjutsu naruto throws as it directly/indirectly, and if it comes to CCQ, something that massive, fast, and powerful sasuke easily has the advantage.
 

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Applauds, I finally agree with everything you have said KG65. Apart from, nardo smacking sasukes PS around? lawl, not happening, it's safe to assume that sasuke PS is equivalent to his own speed. Coated with enton and its demonstrated precision, and swiftness feats, It's not getting hit by any ninjutsu naruto throws as it directly/indirectly, and if it comes to CCQ, something that massive, fast, and powerful sasuke easily has the advantage.

-Kaguya was evading Sasuke's attacks.

-Naruto tagged her multiple times. (Kairiki Musou, Blitzed her and took her arm off, Super Bijuu Rasen Shuriken)

So Sasuke evading all of Naruto's Ninjutsu isn't happening. Equating PS to his own speed doesn't help since Naruto is much faster than Sasuke on foot.

-Kaguya used her chakra arms to bust open Susanoo.

-Naruto overpowered them with Kairiki Musou.

1 punch from Kairiki Musou enhanced Naruto>1 Chakra arm from Kaguya.

So if he barraged Sasuke's Susanoo, he'd destroy it just like Kaguya did. He doesn't even need long ranged Ninjutsu for it, just Kokuo's power and his fists. Coating it with Enton won't matter since Naruto can use clones, and the less durable Ay felt no pain from touching the Enton coating on Susanoo. Naruto is more durable and has a superior cloak. He won't even feel that amount of flame touching his hand. If he does have to resort to nukes:

-Bijuu RS hit Kaguya, yet Sasuke's PS was getting evaded by Kaguya, so it hits PS and breaks it.

-BDRS was shown to move at the same speed as Susanoo. So it'd hit as well, and destroy Susanoo.

Enton Coatings aren't going to do anything to protect it.
 

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Naruto takes this still.

Stop it, delusion is strong within this one. Based on what feats? An advanced sexy jutsu? him being able to dodge Kaguya? or multiple FRSTTB's that haven't a hope in hell of hitting sasuke? or wait, maybe multi shadow clones that all get shitted on and knocked off balance via instant CT, followed by a PS speed blitz or shitted on with large scale enton sprays? take your pick.

Naruto has shown 2-3 feats at best, Speed, massive destructive power via TBB's and FRS's, and shadow clones? that's it, and you think he's getting by sasuke wide range of jutsu's he now has in his position with the sharinnegan? lmao, go to bed.
 

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Stop it, delusion is strong within this one. Based on what feats? An advanced sexy jutsu? him being able to dodge Kaguya? or multiple FRSTTB's that haven't a hope in hell of hitting sasuke? or wait, maybe multi shadow clones that all get shitted on and knocked off balance via instant CT, followed by a PS speed blitz or shitted on with large scale enton sprays? take your pick.

Naruto has shown 2-3 feats at best, Speed, massive destructive power via TBB's and FRS's, and shadow clones? that's it, and you think he's getting by sasuke wide range of jutsu's he now has in his position with the sharinnegan? lmao, go to bed.

I love how you listed all the ways Sasuke supposedly wins, please tell me more.

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-Kaguya was evading Sasuke's attacks.

-Naruto tagged her multiple times. (Kairiki Musou, Blitzed her and took her arm off, Super Bijuu Rasen Shuriken)

So Sasuke evading all of Naruto's Ninjutsu isn't happening. Equating PS to his own speed doesn't help since Naruto is much faster than Sasuke on foot.

-Kaguya used her chakra arms to bust open Susanoo.

-Naruto overpowered them with Kairiki Musou.

1 punch from Kairiki Musou enhanced Naruto>1 Chakra arm from Kaguya.

So if he barraged Sasuke's Susanoo, he'd destroy it just like Kaguya did. He doesn't even need long ranged Ninjutsu for it, just Kokuo's power and his fists. Coating it with Enton won't matter since Naruto can use clones, and the less durable Ay felt no pain from touching the Enton coating on Susanoo. Naruto is more durable and has a superior cloak. He won't even feel that amount of flame touching his hand. If he does have to resort to nukes:

-Bijuu RS hit Kaguya, yet Sasuke's PS was getting evaded by Kaguya, so it hits PS and breaks it.

-BDRS was shown to move at the same speed as Susanoo. So it'd hit as well, and destroy Susanoo.

Enton Coatings aren't going to do anything to protect it.


Bold; makes sense, But, sasuke already demonstrated easily evading BDRS neg diff, he could of held a conversation while doing so. So I still don't see BDRS landing a hit on sasuke susanoo, can PS tank it? mmmm, pretty sure it would get obliterated by multiple BDRS. But I don't think it would hit.

Naruto foot speed faster than sasuke? doubt it, naruto speeds feats or so inconsistent its ridiculous, while sasuke has been consistent on multiple occasions. One, when he chopped maddy in half, and the other when him and naruto attacked maddy while he was transforming simultaneously and sasuke ended up on the other side of him before he was there.

All in all, I think this fight both of them are going to show shit we have not yet seen. Sasuke had his time to shine in the fight against madara, he toyed with him, speed blitz sliced his ass in half, figured out limbo in a matter of seconds, sword through his chest, countered is IT and sliced his CT up in little pieces. On the other hand, naruto proved absolutely useless in that fight, the entire fight, he fended off limbo with clones and that's it. And then he managed to foolishly get caught in IT if sasuke wouldn't of stopped him.

Same goes for sasuke, despite saving naruto "again" on multiple occasions during the Kaguya fight, he proved to be some what useless, got snatched, got trapped, got saved, the end. Naruto shinned, but didn't display none of those feats when they where fighting madara. So now I believe, they both are going to demonstrate feats we have yet to see and its going to be a pretty beast fight. I still give the win to sasuke, why? its simple, every fight sasuke has encountered was a handicap towards him.

-Deidera obito helped plant land mines underneath sasuke restricting his movements, warned deidera on multiple occasions sasuke location and where he was attacking from. Huge disadvantage that fight, came out on top using pure genius and battle tactics. - no intel

- Itachi well, we all know how that went

- Killer bee weakened, and fatigued his last fight with itachi, and never used his MS 0 intel on perfect jin, so his genjutsu ultimately lead to his chest getting blown out

-Kage summit, Zetsu set him up, got attacked by every single kage and still managed to hold his own, all of his opponent's had intel on him, the sharingan, and its techniques while he had none.

- Danzo and even managed to single handily beat danzo with 0 intel, whilst danzo had intel on him and his abilities


Naruto has always been hand held every single fight, or the few that he had, with intel. It was 6 v 1 against Kakuza, and even when he got there they explained his abilities and the situation. It was the "Entire leaf village" against Pein + full intel, and this entire war arc he's had an entire shinobi alliance behind him.

With that said, you have naruto vs sasuke and sasuke on top of being a genius has intel on all of naruto abilities, I think sasuke has a major advantage. Larger diversity in jutsu, more combat experience, and he's 20x smarter. Sasuke has naruto beat in every aspect possible in a fight.
 

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Bold; makes sense, But, sasuke already demonstrated easily evading BDRS neg diff, he could of held a conversation while doing so. So I still don't see BDRS landing a hit on sasuke susanoo, can PS tank it? mmmm, pretty sure it would get obliterated by multiple BDRS. But I don't think it would hit.

No, he demonstrated nothing as Naruto specifically stated that he would tried not to hit Sasuke.

Naruto foot speed faster than sasuke? doubt it, naruto speeds feats or so inconsistent its ridiculous, while sasuke has been consistent on multiple occasions. One, when he chopped maddy in half, and the other when him and naruto attacked maddy while he was transforming simultaneously and sasuke ended up on the other side of him before he was there.
-Sasuke teleported and still couldn't hit Kaguya.

-Naruto blitzed her with Shunshin.

He's faster. That isn't debatable. The bolded wasn't Shunshin, it was teleportation.

All in all, I think this fight both of them are going to show shit we have not yet seen. Sasuke had his time to shine in the fight against madara, he toyed with him, speed blitz sliced his ass in half, figured out limbo in a matter of seconds, sword through his chest, countered is IT and sliced his CT up in little pieces. On the other hand, naruto proved absolutely useless in that fight, the entire fight, he fended off limbo with clones and that's it. And then he managed to foolishly get caught in IT if sasuke wouldn't of stopped him.
Irrelevant. Naruto did nothing because he didn't need to do anything, besides fending off Limbo and helping Sasuke counter Chibaku Tensei.

Same goes for sasuke, despite saving naruto "again" on multiple occasions during the Kaguya fight, he proved to be some what useless, got snatched, got trapped, got saved, the end. Naruto shinned, but didn't display none of those feats when they where fighting madara. So now I believe, they both are going to demonstrate feats we have yet to see and its going to be a pretty beast fight. I still give the win to sasuke, why? its simple, every fight sasuke has encountered was a handicap towards him.
Except, its worse for Sasuke since he tried to do something, but ended up getting slapped away with ease, while Naruto blitzes her, hits her with multiple attacks...all the while Sasuke is being wrecked.

Though I can agree that we'll see some new stuff from them both, though as of now, Sasuke doesn't beat Naruto.


Naruto has always been hand held every single fight, or the few that he had, with intel. It was 6 v 1 against Kakuza, and even when he got there they explained his abilities and the situation. It was the "Entire leaf village" against Pein + full intel, and this entire war arc he's had an entire shinobi alliance behind him.
How is this relevant?

With that said, you have naruto vs sasuke and sasuke on top of being a genius has intel on all of naruto abilities, I think sasuke has a major advantage. Larger diversity in jutsu, more combat experience, and he's 20x smarter. Sasuke has naruto beat in every aspect possible in a fight.

Once again, most of this stuff is irrelevant. He can't counter Naruto's attacks, Naruto can counter his. Naruto canonically performed better than he did against Kaguya.

Naruto>Sasuke before 692, and that isn't debatable.
 

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Naruto was definitely superior to Sasuke prior to 692 (I've stated this many times), but now we know that Sasuke was seemingly holding back against Kaguya.

Sasuke will be on-par with Naruto. Anyone who thinks otherwise is an idiot.
 

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Naruto already has trouble dealing with regular rinnegan users(nagato & edo madara), juubi jin rinnegan users(madara), a sharinnegan user would logically be even more difficult to deal with(assuming sasuke does have all of the paths techniques).

Juubi jin madara only used deva path and only CT plot restricted everything else so with that being said LOGICALLY sasuke should be able to win mid-high diff. but feats wise naruto wins mid diff and hype wise they are equal.
 

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Honestly i believe Sasuke takes this. That Rinnegan genjutsu ends Naruto. This genjutsu works in a complete 360 seeing as Bijuu were behide him and he still caught them.( ).( ). Even with all the Bijuu inside of Naruto this genjutsu effects multiple things so what stops them from getting caught along with him. If genjutsu is restricted Naruto slaughters Sasuke.
 
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