Why is CT such a big deal?

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With the destructive power Naruto has now, the CT shouldn't even be acknowledged. A simple FRS made by Naruto has the destruction radius of at least of most of the CTs we've seen. Oodama FRS breaks it, no sweat, not to mention imbuing it with the Bijuu elements or the actual Bijuu FRS.

Another thing that can shatter a pile of rocks is the blunt force trauma. Beyond perfection Senjutsu? Anyone? Naruto can probably shatter it with a mere punch. I'm not bashing Sasuke, I'm just clarifying "logic", the word that a lot of people use. In futility.
 

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Because it opens up the probability that Sasuke has a lot of techs he hasn't shown yet.
 

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Because it opens up the probability that Sasuke has a lot of techs he hasn't shown yet.

That's true. But I got the feeling that CT itself is a major thing, in terms of propelling Sasuke's chances at winning.
 

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it also opens up the possibility that sasuke can remove the bijuu chakra from naruto turning him into a fodder.
 

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Sasuke can make one the orb so what is there to destroy? Yourself? Doubt one is doing that.
 

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You forget the amount sasuke just made in an instant and if naruto were to counter them it would be after they were already formed meaning sasuke would have time to counter naruto frs by his teleportation jutsu such as switching places with the frs while it is being formed by naruto sending it where sasuke was and sending sasuke where naruto is. Also, having ct leaves the possibility of other rinne techs open for discussion such as st which it seems all rinne abilities up till this point are far ahead of what Nagato was doing and a more powerful st is deadly and especially preta path used by sasuke who would have no problem absorbing senjutsu also countering naruto. Sasuke just showed one of the greatest genjutsu feats only second to IT. Also it was clear to me prior to this that he was holding back because obtaining the rinnegan and only getting a teleportation is illogical to believe in. This is almost as nostalgic as Madara coming back alive.
 

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You forget the amount sasuke just made in an instant and if naruto were to counter them it would be after they were already formed meaning sasuke would have time to counter naruto frs by his teleportation jutsu such as switching places with the frs while it is being formed by naruto sending it where sasuke was and sending sasuke where naruto is. Also, having ct leaves the possibility of other rinne techs open for discussion such as st which it seems all rinne abilities up till this point are far ahead of what Nagato was doing and a more powerful st is deadly and especially preta path used by sasuke who would have no problem absorbing senjutsu also countering naruto. Sasuke just showed one of the greatest genjutsu feats only second to IT. Also it was clear to me prior to this that he was holding back because obtaining the rinnegan and only getting a teleportation is illogical to believe in. This is almost as nostalgic as Madara coming back alive.

The Genjutsu won't work on Naruto. You forget the effectiveness of clones and the number of FRSs with those clones. When it comes to destruction, rarely anyone can compare to Naruto.
 

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The Genjutsu won't work on Naruto. You forget the effectiveness of clones and the number of FRSs with those clones. When it comes to destruction, rarely anyone can compare to Naruto.

I didn't say anything about naruto being placed under genjutsu or whether sasuke can affect him I simply acknowledged a genjutsu feat of the highest quality. Also, speaking of perfect jinchuriki and genjutsu killer bee is the first confirmed perfect jin and was placed under a basic sharingan genjutsu by sasuke for a very short period of time so that means a more powerful genjutsu would work longer before the bijuu breaks it's host free which is more than enough ample time and that means naruto is vulnerable to a genjutsu assault.

Destructive power goes to naruto easily but that doesn't matter at the moment because the more clones are used the weaker they and naruto become and at this level they can't afford to become less than powerful against sasuke. I already countered naruto using frs himself but to counter the clones argument, you forget what enton can do, it completely overwhelms jutsu and absorbs other jutsu proven during sasuke vs itachi and during uchiha brothers vs kabuto don't even let sasuke show preta path then no amount of frs would save him
 

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I didn't say anything about naruto being placed under genjutsu or whether sasuke can affect him I simply acknowledged a genjutsu feat of the highest quality. Also, speaking of perfect jinchuriki and genjutsu killer bee is the first confirmed perfect jin and was placed under a basic sharingan genjutsu by sasuke for a very short period of time so that means a more powerful genjutsu would work longer before the bijuu breaks it's host free which is more than enough ample time and that means naruto is vulnerable to a genjutsu assault.

Destructive power goes to naruto easily but that doesn't matter at the moment because the more clones are used the weaker they and naruto become and at this level they can't afford to become less than powerful against sasuke. I already countered naruto using frs himself but to counter the clones argument, you forget what enton can do, it completely overwhelms jutsu and absorbs other jutsu proven during sasuke vs itachi and during uchiha brothers vs kabuto don't even let sasuke show preta path then no amount of frs would save him

You have to, again, remember, the current Naruto. Sasuke won't go with Genjutsu to counter him.

The problem with that is that Naruto could make 1000 clones back in the day when he trained for FRS. Should we try and guess the number now? We shouldn't. Enton is questionable next to Bijuu elements. If Naruto has something that can neutralize it or is superior to it, doesn't matter much.
 

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You have to, again, remember, the current Naruto. Sasuke won't go with Genjutsu to counter him.

The problem with that is that Naruto could make 1000 clones back in the day when he trained for FRS. Should we try and guess the number now? We shouldn't. Enton is questionable next to Bijuu elements. If Naruto has something that can neutralize it or is superior to it, doesn't matter much.
Current naruto is still a perfect jinchuriki and his jinchuriki level did not increase to a level beyond perfect so current naruto has nothing to do with resisting genjutsu directed at him of that level.


Like I said the more clones there are the weaker they are and the weaker naruto is which doesn't bode well for him and again no amount of clones can get through sasuke enton shield the same way he used against the ice dimension. This is an argument with the only known abilities sasuke has just wait till I see all his moves.


Bijuu elements? ?? Lava and bubbles etc...really dude shinobi can use those elements and enton has overwhelmed senjutsu the most powerful chakra type and clearly bijuu are solo'd neg diff so surely if the entirety of a bijuu or bijuu's are no threat to sasuke then a chakra element is no threat.
 

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Current naruto is still a perfect jinchuriki and his jinchuriki level did not increase to a level beyond perfect so current naruto has nothing to do with resisting genjutsu directed at him of that level.


Like I said the more clones there are the weaker they are and the weaker naruto is which doesn't bode well for him and again no amount of clones can get through sasuke enton shield the same way he used against the ice dimension. This is an argument with the only known abilities sasuke has just wait till I see all his moves.


Bijuu elements? ?? Lava and bubbles etc...really dude shinobi can use those elements and enton has overwhelmed senjutsu the most powerful chakra type and clearly bijuu are solo'd neg diff so surely if the entirety of a bijuu or bijuu's are no threat to sasuke then a chakra element is no threat.

Since he's a perfect Jinchuuriki, you answered the Genjutsu-related questions immediately, or contradicted yourself.

The amount of chakra he has now makes that argument simply irrelevant. Not that he'll make even 10 clones in this fight.

There are 9 of them.
 

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Even a CT combined of 9 with naruto as core is trouble for noodles.
 

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CT is just an awesome jutsu, any time it's used it's epic.
 

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Since he's a perfect Jinchuuriki, you answered the Genjutsu-related questions immediately, or contradicted yourself.

The amount of chakra he has now makes that argument simply irrelevant. Not that he'll make even 10 clones in this fight.

There are 9 of them.

Lmao at you perfect is perfect there is no difference from killer bee's years of perfection and naruto's one year perfection. So he is fair game for a genjutsu assault.

The argument stands he is still gets weaker the more clones he uses that's manga fact.


Bijuu just got solo'd in 5seconds again if the entirety of 9 bijuu are neg diff then a trait of a bijuu is no threat.
 
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