[Spoilers] Sasuke, Naruto, and Their Power Distribution.

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Well, I am taking a few minutes to relax at work, and wanted to write this short thread. So, here is the incoming truth about the Narutoverse, and this should help people understand how Hagoromo came to have the two seal, and his unique Rinnegan.

I. Sasuke's Rinnegan is not enough to stop IT.

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As I thought, Kishi is not dumb to make a mere human stop a Genjutsu created by someone who not only had Hagoromo's full power, but was also the Jinchuriki of Juubi. Thus, in order to stop the IT, both the Rinnegan and a huge chakra pool is needed.

II. Sasuke's Chubaku Tensei.

First, unlike those who are surprised, I think it was a very nice twist. The reason is simple - that is both Naruto and Sasuke knows the seal for Shubaku tensei because they used used it against Kaguya. The real twist here is why Sasuke is able to use it on his own. Is it because he has his Rinnegan?

Well, no - Sasuke's Rinnegan cannot allow him to create a Chubaku tensei because he does not have all the powers of Hagoromo's Rinnegan. For example, Sasuke did not create his own CT core. Rather, he used the Biju has the core of the Chubaku Tensei after taking control of them.

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So all those who are quick to think Naruto is the one who is using Bijus power need to understand that without Biju power, Sasuke wouldn't be able to use the Chubaku tensei.

III. Spoiler

(1) Will Sasuke be able to sync with the Bijus and draw their chakra? Recall that Obito could feed on Gedo Mazou as well using his Sharingan and Rinnegan. Also, just like Pain, it is possible to send and receive chakra once you sync with the source. In fact, Naruto has done this with the SA as well.

(2) By the end of this fight, Naruto will have full SO6P power. He basically will end with the two seal just as I predicted, and this is why he has bandage on his right arm in the movie. Basically, Naruto is the Last Ninja.
 

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While Sasuke and Naruto fight The ones caught in IT are all turning into white zetsu lawls.
 

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interesting
 

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While Sasuke and Naruto fight The ones caught in IT are all turning into white zetsu lawls.

I wonder how many minute their fight will take. Remember, from the arrival of the edo kages to the end of Kaguya fight, only a few minutes passed.

Lol keep dreaming.

Well, dreams are allowed, but you do understand that both Nagato and Madara used a black orb as Chubaku tensei core. Sasuke did not use that core, just as they did not use any core in Kaguya's case. My opinion is that the Chubaku tensei Naruto and Sasuke used and the one Sasuke used turns the Biju chakra into a core, which then pull the ground.

So, which part of my post is a dream?
 

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Or sasuke was the one who actually used the chibaku justu and naruto used the atcual seal. Beacause remeber how nagato used chibaku on naruto but the 8 tails version of kurama broke free, that shows that with enough power ( witch kaguya had exhausted by trying to create another dimension) one can break free.

Naruto's seal was the atcual seal where as sasuke's was the atcual chubaku tensi.
But the aging I could be worng :p
 

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We'll naruto still has his powers, his ultimate biju mode, hags must have told him wat sasuke is thinking and if the time comes wat can he do to defeat him...so actually it's quite predictable that he will loose just like maddy and kaguya were supposed to loose
 

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this means that naruto and sasuke will both survive this fight. The Sage is about to disappear so he can't do it. And naruto and sasuke together are the only ones who can release the IT. We know that IT will be stopped eventually, so obv naruto and sasuke will survive this fight.
 

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Well he still used CT with a mere hand clap. He turned them into the cores instead of attracting everyone into it. The fact he could turn them into cores means he can manipulate gravitational forces at will. The fact he can manipulate gravitational forces at wills means he is capable of using Deva Path. The fact he can use Deva Path insinuates that there is a high probability he possess the other paths as well, since there's no reason for him to have one and not the others.
 

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Well he still used CT with a mere hand clap. He turned them into the cores instead of attracting everyone into it. The fact he could turn them into cores means he can manipulate gravitational forces at will. The fact he can manipulate gravitational forces at wills means he is capable of using Deva Path. The fact he can use Deva Path insinuates that there is a high probability he possess the other paths as well, since there's no reason for him to have one and not the others.

That's your own interpretation. Chubaku tensei is not a power of any paths. Rather, it is a JUTSU that is given by hand seal. You should not forget that the seal in Naruto's end + the one in Sasuke's hand gives Chubaku Tensei. Are you saying that Naruto and Sasuke were manipulating gravity?

My answer is no. Once the jutsus is formed, the Biju become a gravitational core, and this core is the one creating the gravitational field. What you need to understand that until now, Sasuke cannot create any field on his own because he does not have the black orb.
 

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That's your own interpretation. Chubaku tensei is not a power of any paths. Rather, it is a JUTSU that is given by hand seal. You should not forget that the seal in Naruto's end + the one in Sasuke's hand gives Chubaku Tensei. Are you saying that Naruto and Sasuke were manipulating gravity?

My answer is no. Once the jutsus is formed, the Biju become a gravitational core, and this core is the one creating the gravitational field. What you need to understand that until now, Sasuke cannot create any field on his own because he does not have the black orb.


Chibaku Tensei is part of the Rikudō no Jutsu. Narutos and Sasukes seal doesn't contain only Chibaku Tensei, but also a neutralizer for Kaguyas Rinnegan, it has blocked her keirakukei too. Therefore, she couldn't escape.
The Bijū are irrelevant, because the Rikudō no Yang and Rikudō no Yin no Chikara(that's the name of Narutos and Sasukes seal) were not influenced by Bijū-power.

The black sphere you were talking about is in this context a manifestation of chakra. Due to that chakra, the gravity will be influenced. Sasukes chakra was inside of all Bijū, because he put them under Genjutsu. With Genjutsu the caster uses his own chakra to distract the chakra of the target.
With the power of the Rikudō no Jutsu he could probably change the characteristics of that chakra and use Chibaku Tensei. Heck, it was clearly stated that he used Chibaku Tensei. He used 'In' as well.

/Thread. Have a nice day.
 

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look. As much as I'd like to see Naruto kill Sasuke, that's not going to happen. As much as I don't want this fight to end with TnJ, it will.

Naruto told the sage (foreshadowing) that although him and Sasuke aren't real siblings, he believes in the end they will be able to make peace.

This is what's going to happen. Just like Madara just now on his deathbed, except Sasuke isn't [most likely] going to be on his deathbed
 

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Sasuke doesn't have deva until shown otherwise.

Sasuke and Naruto's chibaku tensei was just to place the seal over Kaguya's third eye.

Sasuke can use chibaku tensei on his own accord via rinnegan. That simple
 

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That's your own interpretation. Chubaku tensei is not a power of any paths. Rather, it is a JUTSU that is given by hand seal. You should not forget that the seal in Naruto's end + the one in Sasuke's hand gives Chubaku Tensei. Are you saying that Naruto and Sasuke were manipulating gravity?

My answer is no. Once the jutsus is formed, the Biju become a gravitational core, and this core is the one creating the gravitational field. What you need to understand that until now, Sasuke cannot create any field on his own because he does not have the black orb.

No, it's not an interpretation. It's a fact. What is? Well apart from you failing to read a manga's pages correctly, Sasuke having Deva. He said it's part of his rinnegan kit himself, and used his CT after getting proficient with his Rinnegan.
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So no, Naruto can't do this since he has no Rinnegan. He doesn't need the black orb. Sasuke's eye apparently allows him to choose what or who the core is.
 

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I'm guessing this fight will develop like their last fight which means that sasuke will at some point be getting his ass handed to him and then his other rinnegan will awaken just in time for naruto to go full bijuu mode.

I kinda wished that naruto had received the other half of kurama before this fight but whatever
 
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