Madara might end up as arguably strongest Shinobi ever lived...

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I think as compensation for a very shitty death, Kishi has given Madara the nr 1 spot in the rankings.

Obviously Kaguya has more chakra as stated, but intelligence/strategic wise she doesnt come close. I dont even know if we should adress her as a Shinobi, since the lack of expierence. Its almost as if one normal villager obtained all the power in the world at once, and has no clue how to use it.

Also Madara has 2 Rinnegans which are far more superior than a pair of Byakugans.

Kishi Has already hinted that a complete Madara is unstoppable and that he doesnt know how to kill him. Kishi implied here that he doesnt know how to finish off Madara in a fair combat. This alone proves he stands alone on top, as he was forced to be cheapshotted.

Now, no disrespect to Kaguya shes obviously the 2nd strongest "Shinobi" sharing top tier with Madara, all thanks to Tamoe Rinnegan.

I will put my current top 10 here based on LOGIC. This should not be the main discussion as the question stays whether Madara will stay on top?

Maybe Sasuke or Naruto will end up with another powerup, but honestly that would be too much considering we already had like 5 of them recent chapters.

God Tier

1. Uchiha Madara
2. Kaguya

Semi-God

3. Hagoromo
4. Hamura Logic

Legendary

5. Naruto Logic
6. Sasuke

Hero

7. Guy
8. Kakashi - Skillwise Kakashi>Obito. Since Obito cant handle Kamui like Madara in Juubi form, ranked below Kakashi.
9. Obito
10. Kabuto SM full Edo army

This is the top 10 which Im pretty sure about it, based on their peak performance.


Now 11-20 might get a little nasty, but bare with me. This is my expert opinion. I actualy dont want to discuss this bottom half... because their power lvs are so close and its almost impossible to be accurate.

Top Kage

11 Indra
12 Ashura
13 Nagato
14 Orochimaru Senju Dna, Edo army
15 Sakura
16 Hahashirama
17 Itachi
18 Minato
19 Tobirama
20 Hiruzen

Average Kage Tier

21 Onoki
22 Tsunade
23 Raikage
24 Gaara
25 Mei
 
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This thread was nice, until I went to the part where Sakura is above Hashirama. =D

Hashirama is Semi-God/Legendary level. U_U

Madara is #1 though.
 

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Lord Madara negged diffed the entire NV he deserves his spot as number one and unless Sasuke/Naruto get some next type over powered power up he's staying up there.
 

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Kaguya and Hagoromo are still above him,
Non Jin Old Hagoromos halves would have defeated him, as they ddiint even use half of their power against him,
Prime JJ Hagoromo would wreck madara
and Kaguya was canonically stated to be above Madara, i dont see why a manga fact is being discarded here,

madara is #3
 

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Hold up... Did I just see Sakura above Minato,Hashirama,Tobirama,Itachi?!!
 

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Kaguya and Hagoromo are still above him,
Non Jin Old Hagoromos halves would have defeated him, as they ddiint even use half of their power against him,
Prime JJ Hagoromo would wreck madara
and Kaguya was canonically stated to be above Madara, i dont see why a manga fact is being discarded here,

madara is #3
:leaf::leaf::leaf:
 

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how could Sakura be over Hashirama?failed
and if you put Hamura on the list then why didnot u put Jashin too.
he could give somebody immortality,imagine what kind of power he had.
 

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Madara doesn't have the seals, so he stays #2
 

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Its a good list. But I wouldn't rank Kakashi lower then Guy and certainly not rank Sakura above Hashirama he is a practically a god.
 

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Kaguya and Hagoromo are still above him,
Non Jin Old Hagoromos halves would have defeated him, as they ddiint even use half of their power against him,
Prime JJ Hagoromo would wreck madara
and Kaguya was canonically stated to be above Madara, i dont see why a manga fact is being discarded here,

madara is #3

It was only stated Kaguya has more chakra than Madara, yet he was Juubi Jin so his chakra was "Immesurable" anyway so that doesn't even matter. Kaguya is very stupid and brainless, she would get outsmarted very hard by Madara, she may have more Chakra and Sheer Power, but Madara is so much smarter and has more "War" Experience as to fighting against Shinobies of his own level.
 

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Madara doesn't have the seals, so he stays #2

Troll right ?


Madara has made 20 CT and they are bigger as Sasuke and Nagatos together....and the seal was nothing else as Chibaku Tensei U_U
 

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It was only stated Kaguya has more chakra than Madara, yet he was Juubi Jin so his chakra was "Immesurable" anyway so that doesn't even matter. Kaguya is very stupid and brainless, she would get outsmarted very hard by Madara, she may have more Chakra and Sheer Power, but Madara is so much smarter and has more "War" Experience as to fighting against Shinobies of his own level.

I agree with this 100%
 

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Can you explain how Sakura is above Hashirama ?
 

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Technically he's the strongest shinobi [None have surpassed him yet], since Otsutsuki family were never actually shinobis [Kaguya,Hagoromo and Hamura]...

Madara surpassed Indra and Ashura [when he obtained Rinnegan]..

So, Madara is the strongest shinobi ever lived .
 
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