The Problem with Yata Mirror

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The problem with Yata Mirror is the fandom.

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The shield alongside its brother and sister are clearly of the highest tier in the Naruto universe.
Their origins are not known, could of existed before even Kaguya for all we know. Most people don't even know they exist and those that have heard of it just think it's some fairy tale legend.
It blocks all attacks, makes them meaningless. Kishi's own words.

I'm not sure why people have trouble accepting that the Yata Mirror is just that good, but honestly have begun to think it's because Itachi used it. I get the feeling that people are looking at Itachi himself and his raw-power and downplaying the Yata Mirror because of it... "It can't be that powerful because Itachi was using it." That's what it feels like. Sorry but the shield is that powerful. There's a reason Sasuke didn't get the weapons, Kishi would either have to retcon or Sasuke with his chakra reserves would be stupidly broken.
Yata Mirror blocks mountain level attack at best, anything else if fanfiction
 

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Yata Mirror blocks mountain level attack at best, anything else if fanfiction
You want to back up that ridiculous claim?

I remember a little snake escaping from Totsuka Sealing. The spiritual weapon supposedly was to seal everything it pierces. Logically that would include the snake going along with it.[ ][ ]
Irrelevant to thread. Not wasting my time arguing it.
Yata Miror is just a shield used by Itachi's susanoo that Kishi hyped a lot. Sasuke's Susanoo also had a shield.
Pretty much this ^^
It would be nice if you two read through the entire thread before posting.
 

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Does the Yata Mirror change it's properties to block an incoming attack?

I've wondered what would happen if it's faced with multiple attacks at once.

If the incoming attacks are all the same (fireball jutsu) then would it changr it's properties to water in order to block the fire?
 

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Does the Yata Mirror change it's properties to block an incoming attack?

I've wondered what would happen if it's faced with multiple attacks at once.

If the incoming attacks are all the same (fireball jutsu) then would it changr it's properties to water in order to block the fire?
It changes properties to negate the attack. And not only that but the attack loses meaning before the mirror. It's incredibly hax, it could easily tank multiple attacks based on that hype alone.
 

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Good thread, now let's get some things cleared up:

"Raikiri cuts through anything."
It failed to cut through a Rasengan, they negated each other; statement is thus invalid.

"Any effect looses it's meaning."
Do you really think this is literal? Lol It's figuratively, because it doesn't work on Yata there is no meaning to the attack, it was a useless attack.

I don't think there is much more to cover.

Why else do you think Kishi gave these weapons to someone dying? Being equipped to Itachi's Susano'o they probably moved on with him.
 

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You want to back up that ridiculous claim?



Irrelevant to thread. Not wasting my time arguing it.



It would be nice if you two read through the entire thread before posting.
In a sense, yes it is. However, based on what I've been reading, the no limits fallacy isn't actually the problem. The real focus was the Spiritual Weapon Stamp that the hype is hiding behind. The Totsuka Blade is a spiritual weapon itself, yet that snake somehow escape from it even though it was suppose to seal all of Orochimaru and the remaining snakes.

Juubito also has the power of the Shinobi Ancestor (Hagoromo), common sense and logic no longer applies to him he says. Yet his main weakness are Senjutsu based attacks. Can the Yata Mirror reflect? Yes, it can. But I for one cannot say that there is no limit just because it was stamped as a spiritual weapon.
 

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You want to back up that ridiculous claim?



Irrelevant to thread. Not wasting my time arguing it.



It would be nice if you two read through the entire thread before posting.
I read the thread and it was the same Bull**** I've read 100 times before. The worse thing is that you actually believe this. A mountain level attack easily crushes Yata and the Susanoo itself. In fact a lot weaker attacks can destroy it. What did Yata block? It blocked Kunai with explosive attacks, which is nothing. Even a ribcage will be enough to protect you from explosive kunais. The problem with Yata isn't its fandom, this is a poor excuse. All these 8 people,that agree with you should slap themselves hard for believing fan fiction like that.
 
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It's manga facts when it suits Itachi but yet you lot have no problem deciphering and criticizing other manga facts straight from Kishi when it doesn't :rolleyes:. Plenty have already explained to you that such statements, especially from databooks, are mere hyperbole and shouldn't be taken too literally.
 

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It's manga facts when it suits Itachi but yet you lot have no problem deciphering and criticizing other manga facts straight from Kishi when it doesn't :rolleyes:. Plenty have already explained to you that such statements, especially from databooks, are mere hyperbole and shouldn't be taken too literally.
Didn't read the posts from anyone not against I see. Maybe you didn't even read the OP because this wasn't about Itachi.

I read the thread and it was the same Bull**** I've read 100 times before. The worse thing is that you actually believe this. A mountain level attack easily crushes Yata and the Susanoo itself. In fact a lot weaker attacks can destroy it. What did Yata block? It blocked Kunai with explosive attacks, which is nothing. Even a ribcage will be enough to protect you from explosive kunais. The problem with Yata isn't its fandom, this is a poor excuse. All these 8 people,that agree with you should slap themselves hard for believing fan fiction like that.
Tells me I believe fanfiction. Then goes on to makes the statement like the bold that have no factual basis whatsoever that you can prove. Yet you believe it.

Hypocrite
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Ianakui pretty much said all that needs to be said. As much as I like itachi, there's a limit.

Neji's rotation was said to be able to block anything. Nothing got past it as well but no one gives it that hype because it's a hyperbole.
 

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People who believe this shield is invincible, constantly ignore the other examples of hyperbole in the manga, writing them off since Yata is a spirit weapon while they aren't, which makes zero sense.

Hyperbolic shield is hyperbolic. Yata blocking everything is a joke that has been going on for far too long now. Far too long.
 

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Ianakui pretty much said all that needs to be said. As much as I like itachi, there's a limit.

Neji's rotation was said to be able to block anything. Nothing got past it as well but no one gives it that hype because it's a hyperbole.
Should have kept reading.

People who believe this shield is invincible, constantly ignore the other examples of hyperbole in the manga, writing them off since Yata is a spirit weapon while they aren't, which makes zero sense.

Hyperbolic shield is hyperbolic. Yata blocking everything is a joke that has been going on for far too long now. Far too long.
Let me ask you this, how do you know it's hyperbole?

These weapons were created in the spirit world. Weapons that are leagues above those used even by the Sage of Six Paths.

The Juubi was said to swallow oceans and tear apart continents, and that has been shown to be true, so how can you possibly say these ethereal tools do not live up to their hype when we have not seen it?
 
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Didn't read the posts from anyone not against I see. Maybe you didn't even read the OP because this wasn't about Itachi.
Says this isn't about Itachi yet you yourself have mentioned him in your OP. And I have read the posts of people not against and their basis of their argument is the same old taking the description of the databook too literally and not interpreting as a mere hyperbole.

Countless number of people have given you other examples yet you choose to brush them aside and only take statements about Itachi as down to the wire truth.
 
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- The shield has no physical form.
- The user can change every single of its properties. This includes size and shape. It can block from all directions.
- It can block/repel any attack. Doesn't matter if its not Ninjutsu, doesn't matter if its space-time. Any attack is useless against the Yata
- Any attack that meets this shield loses its meaning. For example, one of the Seven Ninja swordsman hidden in the mist has a sword that is said to pierce anything - however in front of the Yata it loses its meaning. Same deal for truth-seeking orb.

The shield alongside its brother and sister are clearly of the highest tier in the Naruto universe. Their origins are not known, could of existed before even Kaguya for all we know. Most people don't even know they exist and those that have heard of it just think it's some fairy tale legend. I'm not sure why people have trouble accepting that the Yata Mirror is just that good, I think it's because Itachi used it. I get the feeling that people are looking at Itachi himself and his raw-power and downplaying the Yata Mirror because of it... "It can't be that powerful because Itachi was using it. He's outclassed by several now" - That's what it feels like. Sorry but the shield is that powerful. There's a reason Sasuke didn't get the weapons, Kishi would either have to retcon or Sasuke with his chakra reserves would be stupidly broken.


 
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Yeah I saved your quote a few weeks ago and decided to put it to good use in this thread.
Says this isn't about Itachi yet you yourself have mentioned him in your OP. And I have read the posts of people not against and their basis of their argument is the same old taking the description of the databook too literally and not interpreting as a mere hyperbole.

Countless number of people have given you other examples yet you choose to brush them aside and only take statements about Itachi as down to the wire truth.
Itachi was only mentioned because I was explaining the he in fact was the reason it was underestimated. The rest of your post is utter nonsense. It's clear you're too biased to realize that they were not brushed aside. All arguments were countered while they failed to prove Yata wrong.
 

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Itachi was only mentioned because I was explaining the he in fact was the reason it was underestimated. The rest of your post is utter nonsense. It's clear you're too biased to realize that they were not brushed aside. All arguments were countered while they failed to prove Yata wrong.
I'm too biased? Says the guy who's devoted to Itachi :rolleyes:. I'm just gonna have to reiterate what others have said, let's give you some other manga facts from Kishi's own words. I'll use Kamui as an example and this is the databook description for it :
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I'll highlight some of the key points for you "against this technique no defense is possible", "No matter what, the space will distort and draw the target in". Not looking too good is it for Yata Mirror?

Oh and this time try and come up with a better response rather than a :

S/T jutsu. Hype=dead Lol

Meanwhile Yata's is still alive and kicking
 
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