Minato vs Hashirama Senju

[StarWanderer]

Minato wins. With FTG spam he can avoid Shinsusenju enough to prep Frog Song.

Hashirama kills him. Clones, mokuton protection, regeneration, Bringer of Darkness, flower tree world, all-time battlefield change and Wood Dragon will do the job.

 

[Ababeel]

Minato is superior to Hashirama.

He dealt with far greater attacks that Hashirama can ever dream of accomplish (the Juubi's TBB)
he is faster than 8th gate Gai, so there is no way Hashirama can dodge his attacks
and he can cut JJ Madara's woods without even using his hands, so it will be much easier for him to cut Hashirama's woods with his
hands.

Also, Minato is the only Hokage who was not fully defeated, even though he fought stronger foes than the other Hokages...

 

[Demonic.]

Hashirama Mid diffs this clown.

Minato is superior to Hashirama.

He dealt with far greater attacks that Hashirama can ever dream of accomplish (the Juubi's TBB)
he is faster than 8th gate Gai, so there is no way Hashirama can dodge his attacks
and he can cut JJ Madara's woods without even using his hands, so it will be much easier for him to cut Hashirama's woods with his
hands.

Also, Minato is the only Hokage who was not fully defeated, even though he fought stronger foes than the other Hokages...

This is exactly why Minato fan boys are some of the worst on here:


Hashirama pinned the Juubi down with Gate of the Great God.

Claims Minato wasn't defeated - had both arms cut off

 

[Ababeel]

Hashirama Mid diffs this clown.



This is exactly why Minato fan boys are some of the worst on here:


Hashirama pinned the Juubi down with Gate of the Great God.

Claims Minato wasn't defeated - had both arms cut off

This is exactly why Hashirama's fan boys are the worst on the universe..

if Minato did not save the entire SA from the TBB what's Hashirama going to do?

yeah, Minato got his arm cut off from JJ obito, but what did happen to Hashirama?
He was blown up completetly from the 4 TBBs, why did not he save himself? Lol

Minato got his other arm cut off from JJ Madara
but Hashirama was defeated from eyeless madara. Lol

Hashirama got his SM stolen, but Minato at least took almost all of the Gedu-dama from Madara

and I did not say he was not defeated, but rather he was not fully defeated. Hashirama got pinned down for like 20 chapters or so and he couldn't even more, and the same thing happened to Tobirama. However, that did not happen to Minato, and he actually accomplished something, but what has Hashirama accomplished exactly?

 

[Haizaki]

Minato is superior to Hashirama.

He dealt with far greater attacks that Hashirama can ever dream of accomplish (the Juubi's TBB)
he is faster than 8th gate Gai,

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He can teleport but still he's not faster than Gai at all.

 

[Ababeel]

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He can teleport but still he's not faster than Gai at all.

do you mean this page does not exist? Lol

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[Demonic.]

This is exactly why Hashirama's fan boys are the worst on the universe..

if Minato did not save the entire SA from the TBB what's Hashirama going to do?

yeah, Minato got his arm cut off from JJ obito, but what did happen to Hashirama?
He was blown up completetly from the 4 TBBs, why did not he save himself? Lol

Minato got his other arm cut off from JJ Madara
but Hashirama was defeated from eyeless madara. Lol

Hashirama got his SM stolen, but Minato at least took almost all of the Gedu-dama from Madara

and I did not say he was not defeated, but rather he was not fully defeated. Hashirama got pinned down for like 20 chapters or so and he couldn't even more, and the same thing happened to Tobirama. However, that did not happen to Minato, and he actually accomplished something, but what has Hashirama accomplished exactly?

Two things Minato could never do.

-He solo'd the Kyubi without sacrificing his life
-He solo'd Madara

 

[Ababeel]

Two things Minato could never do.

-He solo'd the Kyubi without sacrificing his life
-He solo'd Madara

pff, I'm talking about this war. Lol

Minato ended the 3rd War, something neither Hashirama nor Tobirama were able to accomplish with the first War, and their got killed. lol

but again, do you think Hashirama's power is greater than the Juubi's TBB?
or do you see him faster than 8th gate Gai that he would be able to dodge Minato's attacks?

 

[Demonic.]

pff, I'm talking about this war. Lol

Minato ended the 3rd War, something neither Hashirama nor Tobirama were able to accomplish with the first War, and their got killed. lol

but again, do you think Hashirama's power is greater than the Juubi's TBB?
or do you see him faster than 8th gate Gai that he would be able to dodge Minato's attacks?

Minato has FTG so what? Tobirama does too. Does that mean Tobirama > Hashirama? Lmao.

Speedwise Minato is superior. Powerwise it's Hashirama.

 

[Haizaki]

do you mean this page does not exist? Lol

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Uhmm if you read what Minato said

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, you'll know Gai had no wayy around the balls.
The fact that Minato got reacted to and cut down by Madara meanwhile Gai's case was different as he kept surprising him with his speed to the extent where Madara noted Gai was indeed fast. It's clear who's faster.

That page doesn't show Minato is faster when Lee threw the kunai Lol. There's no explanation for why he got cut down with ease and failed to faze Madara with his speed unlike Gai. It only means one thing.

 

[LuckyMan]

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He can teleport but still he's not faster than Gai at all.

His attack speed is inferior to 8th Gate Gai and I'm certain everyones in the series is as well. However he told Gai to charge at full speed and not hold back. He still jumped in front of the balls with Hirashin then jumped instantly again to Konoha and Gai was in the same position he was in when he arrived and when he left. That is because no time passes when he goes from point A to point B with Hirashin. Teleporting will always be faster than physical movement thus Minato always faster than Gai.

 

[Ababeel]

Uhmm if you read what Minato said

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, you'll know Gai had no wayy around the balls.
The fact that Minato got reacted to and cut down by Madara meanwhile Gai's case was different as he kept surprising him with his speed to the extent where Madara noted Gai was indeed fast. It's clear who's faster.

That page doesn't show Minato is faster when Lee threw the kunai Lol. There's no explanation for why he got cut down with ease and failed to faze Madara with his speed unlike Gai. It only means one thing.

1- What does what Minato say in that page have to do with anything?
2- I see, you can't differentiate between speed and reaction! Lol
3- the comparison had been made clear, just because you chose to deny the manga does not make it any less of a fact. Lol

 

[Steinbiz]

I'd say Minato wins this. Hashirama has got some crazy hype by Kishi himself, but I don't see how Hashirama will even land a hit on Minato. Let alone BM/KCM Minato. That kind of physical speed which is probably even faster than Naruto's version with the help of FTG. There's no friggin way Hashirama is touching him. Wood dragon or not, it's not happening. Even if by miracle the wood dragon or any wood technique grabbed Minato, he'd just FTG out of it and continue his counterattack.

I will admit SM Hashirama might have the senses to react to Minato, but I honestly don't know for how long. BM speed + FTG = by far fastest shinobi ever. Besides 10 tailed jins(who are basically gods). It's only a matter of time before Minato tags Hashirama and the fight is over. BM blitz around the battle field with the help of FTG kunai. tag Hashirama in any way, and bam, BM blitzing enhanced FTG Ultimate Rasengan into Hashirama's back. And sure, while Hashirama is using his insane healing ability similar to Tsunade apparently, that's enough downtime for Minato to strike an actual killing blow. Like cleaving his head off or whatever. When someone is tagged, it's pretty much GG.

I mean seriously, who hasn't been tagged successfully by Minato? Madara only because Minato never really attacked him directly during the main fight. Only after Madara became a 10 tailed jin did Minato try and fail. But seriously? a 10 tailed jin is basically a god. That really doesn't count lol.

 

[Ababeel]

just throwing this here. Lol

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[Haizaki]

His attack speed is inferior to 8th Gate Gai and I'm certain everyones in the series is as well. However he told Gai to charge at full speed and not hold back. He still jumped in front of the balls with Hirashin then jumped instantly again to Konoha and Gai was in the same position he was in when he arrived and when he left.

Good post.
He told Gai to charge at full speed? Telling someone to keep hitting another doesn't mean charge at full speed. Gai kicked up the air with his last attack after running circles in air or else he could have shot another. Madara decided to completely cover himself when he saw Gai coming.
He was definitely slower because here

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, he covered the distance leaving Madara surprised and unable to defend himself like he did during the 5steps.

@secondbold That doesn't show he's faster. Should Gai have hit him before people recognize he was faster? Lee threw the kunai as well which made me believe he can only get to a position faster when he has marked it already. Why? because here

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Lee could save Gai before he got there. Does that mean Lee's faster than Minato despite Minato not getting there on time to save Gai? TSB's were noted to be faster than Kamui and Lee got there before Minato's kunai or TSB could. Does that mean he's faster than the Kamui as well?

That is because no time passes when he goes from point A to point B with Hirashin. Teleporting will always be faster than physical movement thus Minato always faster than Gai.

Don't get me wrong, you're making sense but without marking a spot, he's not faster than Gai. Also, the fact that Gai left Madara surprised with his speed 3-5 times with Madara noting he's fast pretty much says a lot. Like Sasuke and Naruto for example, Sasuke got reacted to by Kaguya despite him being able to teleport there meanwhile Naruto blitz her despite not being able to. Same with Kakashi. It's only when it comes to a far distance that teleportation can be regarded as definitely faster in all cases.

1- What does what Minato say in that page have to do with anything?
2- I see, you can't differentiate between speed and reaction! Lol
3- the comparison had been made clear, just because you chose to deny the manga does not make it any less of a fact. Lol

Usually I don't really reply to people like you but the fact that you said I'm choosing to deny manga facts is a just..... I'm in a good mood so I'll let that slide.

- Minato saying that means Gai couldn't do anything to the TSB even though he had the last punch prepared for Madara. EE is a continuous attack if you didn't know. Plus the fact that his speed reduced after kicking up the air.
- Explain what you mean about reaction speed. You people say Minato is faster because he got in between Gai and the TSB. Rock Lee therefore>> Minato in terms of speed since he got in between Minato and the TSB before Minato could save Gai

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leaving Minato surprised

No comparison was made clear. Like I said, if he's marked a spot already(especially), he can obviously get there faster no doubt but without it being marked, he's not getting there faster than Gai.

 

[Haizaki]

just throwing this here. Lol

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This wank is ridiculous. You realize Tobirama can teleport but Hiruzen got there before him Lol.

Just throwing this here Lol

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[Ababeel]

Usually I don't really reply to people like you

Well, that's just fine. *_*

 

[Demonic.]

Damn. My boy Evani know how to throw down. Soloing Invisible Man and the other Minato fanboy no diff. I'd rep you but I can't ATM

 

[Steinbiz]

Damn. My boy Evani know how to throw down. Soloing Invisible Man and the other Minato fanboy no diff. I'd rep you but I can't ATM

not really soloing anything. People on this website don't change their minds for anything. This is the internet. You know how the internet works right?

If you do, then you'd realize that online debate forums are pointless. It's just for fun.

 

[Steinbiz]

opinions are like *******s. and everyone acts like one through the internet because there's no real physical confrontation through debate forums. You just become someone who thinks you're right 24/7 and that's how it is.

I personally think Minato would win. Don't see how Hashirama even touches BM Minato. That's just my opinion though : /