To naruto fans

[Migster257]

What person isn't innocent?

Every person that chooses not to be. I would say murderers and such are not innocent.
Two people that get into a fist fight with mutual agreement, however, are perfectly fine by my standards.

 

[Tennis Robot]

Every person that chooses not to be. I would say murderers and such are not innocent.
Two people that get into a fist fight with mutual agreement, however, are perfectly fine by my standards.

Why aren't they innocent? Is it not your choice to say that someone isn't innocent?

 

[Migster257]

Why aren't they innocent?

They are guilty of committing a crime against other human beings. Taking their life without said human's permission for example.

 

[Tennis Robot]

They are guilty of committing a crime against other human beings. Taking their life without said human's permission for example.

Is it really a crime? Or is it something that you have been told is a crime? Do we have the power to decide what other people will do to us? How can one person's existence be deemed superior to another's?

 

[Migster257]

Is it really a crime? Or is it something that you have been told is a crime? Do we have the power to decide what other people will do to us? How can one person's existence be deemed superior to another's?

It's a crime because it's basically screwing with another person. I don't find this okay under any circumstances unless it has been given permission to. No, we don't have the power to decide what other people will do to us. That gets rid of free will. No one's existence is superior to another unless you are guilty. Committing a crime against someone else, I.e. Murder, is deeming them unworthy to exist.

 

[lucario14]

Maybe because he doesn't want everyone who sacrificed themselves for the cause eg. Neji, to die in vain. He wants to live in a real world but he doesn't know what is real and fake for everyone. What is fake for him may be real for someone else.

You know what would be funny, if everyone gets released from IT and people are disappointed that what they were experiencing was just a dream and hate naruto for it.

Is it really a crime? Or is it something that you have been told is a crime? Do we have the power to decide what other people will do to us? How can one person's existence be deemed superior to another's?

Are you a philosopher?

 

[jimbobbity]

Is it really a crime? Or is it something that you have been told is a crime? Do we have the power to decide what other people will do to us? How can one person's existence be deemed superior to another's?

Really? Are you honestly doing this again? :|

 

[Tennis Robot]

Maybe because he doesn't want everyone who sacrificed themselves for the cause eg. Neji, to die in vain. He wants to live in a real world but he doesn't know what is real and fake for everyone. What is fake for him may be real for someone else.

You know what would be funny, if everyone gets released from IT and people are disappointed that what they were experiencing was just a dream and hate naruto for it.Are you a philosopher?

No, I'm just lost. And I spend all my time thinking about trivial things.

 

[jimbobbity]

I personally think a cool plot twist would be everybody being caught in IT, but Naruto saving the world would be just a dream and Madara would have won o.o

 

[Darth Uchiha]

This is why I hate sasuke fans.

 

[lucario14]

This is why I hate sasuke fans.

Didn't obito want IT for the majority of his life?

 

[Darth Uchiha]

Didn't obito want IT for the majority of his life?

Yeah, oh, personally, I agree with the IT, I'm just sick of all these anti-Naruto spite threads. In reality this is less about IT and more about how much Naruto sucks (to be expected from fans butthurt that their fav isn't the MC, at least Obito fans aren't like this). If you want to see a good and thoughtful thread about the IT, you can check out one I made a while ago, it's pretty long too.

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[lucario14]

Yeah, oh, personally, I agree with the IT, I'm just sick of all these anti-Naruto spite threads. In reality this is less about IT and more about how much Naruto sucks (to be expected from fans butthurt that their fav isn't the MC, at least Obito fans aren't like this). If you want to see a good and thoughtful thread about the IT, you can check out one I made a while ago, it's pretty long too.

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Yeah I've seen that thread. It was great man I was actually surprised with the results (~60% against ~40% for).

 

[Darth Uchiha]

Yeah I've seen that thread. It was great man I was actually surprised with the results (~60% against ~40% for).

Thank you. Me, I don't particularly care about or am against the content of this thread, I'm against the meaning of it. My thread was created to have an open debate on the philosophy and morality of the IT, this thread was made for Sasuke fans to bash Naruto yet again, that's why I'm annoyed.

 

[Genjin]

Because having actually things going your way as you planned them becomes boring as time goes. I'm pretty sure that's obvious but since you have no outside life, I can understand.

 

[Xlad]

I want to see what lanakui8 has to say. Lol

 

[lanakui8]

If the goal was simply ʻpeaceʻ, Naruto would try to kill everyone one the planet since no people = no wars/conflict/strife, and therefore peace. Thereʻs so many ways to achieve peace. You can take away everyoneʻs free will, you can eliminate all humans, you can merge everyone into a single consciousness thereby removing individuality, you can isolate everyone in their own dimensions, etc.

The peace Naruto is striving to attain is one that is not achieved by having to destroy what makes peace worth fighting for.