[Discussion] Queestions about Raftel

[Tomato God]

• If its un-esplored by people doesnt that mean there is no where to get supplies?
  
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  • Cause then the strawhats will need a hunter to get food or a fisherman to get fish.
  • Plus they are gonna have to have someone who can mend clothing since they cant get new ones.
  • And onto of that they are gonna need someone to farm for there stuff. Even though they
  • A black smith if they need weapons

  Since there is no where to get anything one they are there
• How does navigating work cause if no one can find it does that mean it has no magnetic field and they must navigate by what they have?
  
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  This may leave explores in need of someone who knows stars since all navigational things like compasses waves and the wind dont work on the grandline. The strawhats may need an astronomer too,
• Are the waters around Raftel populated by people looking for it?
  
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  AT the end of the grand line only the strongest of the strong would be there. All of the weak would die. From the looks of it Even whitebeard didn't know where it was or couldn't get there. And while it may not be because he was weak it may be.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Raftel is located inside Reverse Mountain and only those who posses The Voice of All Things can find the entrance

 

[Tomato God]

Raftel is located inside Reverse Mountain and only those who posses The Voice of All Things can find the entrance

... this changes everything...

 

[YellowFang]

Can someone explain me the world map of OP???

I mean Grand-line is adjacent to Calm Belt from both sides and there are two parts of Grand-Line...

So one should simply be able to get deep in New-World just by crossing Calm belts[Assuming by Navy Warships] adjacent to New-World...???

 

[Tomato God]

Can someone explain me the world map of OP???

I mean Grand-line is adjacent to Calm Belt from both sides and there are two parts of Grand-Line...

So one should simply be able to get deep in New-World just by crossing Calm belts[Assuming by Navy Warships] adjacent to New-World...???

There is no waves or wind so ships can''t sail. And its filled with monsters to the brim.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Why do you think the SHs are going to live there? They can already hunt and they don't need a blacksmith only 2 of them use weapons...

 

[Tomato God]

Why do you think the SHs are going to live there? They can already hunt and they don't need a blacksmith only 2 of them use weapons...

No as it stands the WG should be able to get to Raftel just by using there marine ships to cheat and cut through the calm belt. Or the Kuja doing the same. BUT they don't. Maybe Raftel is inside a mountain. Maybe Raftel is surrounded by creatures that are too smart to be hunted normally. And 2 of them use weapons. But without those two the crew isnt hole.

I a not saying you aren't wrong I a just saying its a possibility i am right.

 

[YellowFang]

There is no waves or wind so ships can''t sail. And its filled with monsters to the brim.

Let's assume someone like Rayleigh manages to get past Calm belt, wouldn't he just get to Raftel in no time, that if there's nothing wrong with the sea which is hardly possible...

My question, is it really necessary to circle the whole f'ckin Globe to reach the Finale of New World???

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

No as it stands the WG should be able to get to Raftel just by using there marine ships to cheat and cut through the calm belt. Or the Kuja doing the same. BUT they don't. Maybe Raftel is inside a mountain. Maybe Raftel is surrounded by creatures that are too smart to be hunted normally. And 2 of them use weapons. But without those two the crew isnt hole.

I a not saying you aren't wrong I a just saying its a possibility i am right.

I just said it was in Reverse Mountain in my first post. EoS Luffy can just speed blitz an animal there. Zoro and Brook are professional swordsan, they aren't going to need a blacksmith since their weapons wont break. Besides, when have we ever seen anyone in One Piece using a blacksmith, let alone Zoro and Brook. They aren't going to get stranded on Raftel, they will go there, meet Scopper Gaban, fight and beat the BB Pirates, discover OP and the Rio Poneglyph, and then go to war against the WG.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

No as it stands the WG should be able to get to Raftel just by using there marine ships to cheat and cut through the calm belt. Or the Kuja doing the same. BUT they don't. Maybe Raftel is inside a mountain. Maybe Raftel is surrounded by creatures that are too smart to be hunted normally. And 2 of them use weapons. But without those two the crew isnt hole.

I a not saying you aren't wrong I a just saying its a possibility i am right.

I just said it was in Reverse Mountain in my first post. EoS Luffy can just speed blitz an animal there. Zoro and Brook are professional swordsan, they aren't going to need a blacksmith since their weapons wont break. Besides, when have we ever seen anyone in One Piece using a blacksmith, let alone Zoro and Brook. They aren't going to get stranded on Raftel, they will go there, meet Scopper Gaban, fight and beat the BB Pirates, discover OP and the Rio Poneglyph, and then go to war against the WG.

 

[Tomato God]

Let's assume someone like Rayleigh manages to get past Calm belt, wouldn't he just get to Raftel in no time, that if there's nothing wrong with the sea which is hardly possible...

My question, is it really necessary to circle the whole f'ckin Globe to reach the Finale of New World???

I have no idea. All that that means is its not a quick trip nor an easy one. Cause if the WG with there ships can't get there. And the BB pirates can't muscle their way through. There must be something stoping them

• A long way to travel
• A sea impossible to navigate
• A mountain that hides raftel
• A strong gaurdian of raftel

I just said it was in Reverse Mountain in my first post. EoS Luffy can just speed blitz an animal there. Zoro and Brook are professional swordsan, they aren't going to need a blacksmith since their weapons wont break. Besides, when have we ever seen anyone in One Piece using a blacksmith, let alone Zoro and Brook. They aren't going to get stranded on Raftel, they will go there, meet Scopper Gaban, fight and beat the BB Pirates, discover OP and the Rio Poneglyph, and then go to war against the WG.

1. But zoro's swords did break. Like three times.
2. So we diidn't see haki. Till we did. We didn't See Marines. Till we did. We didn't see snipers. Till we did.
3. No but I doubt it will be a one day journey to the end of the world.
4. And you know this how Oda?

If anything oda said Akainu the strongest marine alive could find the one piece in a year. IT WOULD TAKE HIM A YEAR
So by no means is it a short trip from the last inhabited island to raftel. Not even close.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

I have no idea. All that that means is its not a quick trip nor an easy one. Cause if the WG with there ships can't get there. And the BB pirates can't muscle their way through. There must be something stoping them

• A long way to travel
• A sea impossible to navigate
• A mountain that hides raftel
• A strong gaurdian of raftel

1. But zoro's swords did break. Like three times.
2. So we diidn't see haki. Till we did. We didn't See Marines. Till we did. We didn't see snipers. Till we did.
3. No but I doubt it will be a one day journey to the end of the world.
4. And you know this how Oda?

If anything oda said Akainu the strongest marine alive could find the one piece in a year. IT WOULD TAKE HIM A YEAR
So by no means is it a short trip from the last inhabited island to raftel. Not even close.

1. EoS Zoro will be the WSS, he isn't going to have his swords break like it did against Mihawk. Against Shu his sword was rusted away, a blacksmith cant fix that.
2. Zoro has 3 legendary swords, he has 2 of the 21 O Wazamono Grade Swords(Ichimonji and Shuusui), which are the 2nd best tier for swords, and a Wazomono Grade sword(Sandai Kitetsu). They are one of a kind and cant just be repaired that easily. By this logic I can say that One Piece has fast food employees since just because we haven't seen them doesn't mean that they aren't there.

 

[Tomato God]

1. EoS Zoro will be the WSS, he isn't going to have his swords break like it did against Mihawk. Against Shu his sword was rusted away, a blacksmith cant fix that.
2. Zoro has 3 legendary swords, he has 2 of the 21 O Wazamono Grade Swords(Ichimonji and Shuusui), which are the 2nd best tier for swords, and a Wazomono Grade sword(Sandai Kitetsu). They are one of a kind and cant just be repaired that easily. By this logic I can say that One Piece has fast food employees since just because we haven't seen them doesn't mean that they aren't there.

1. Eos Zoro Maybe the best swordsman but he doesn't have the best swords. That would be Mihawk. And he had his swords broken by Mihawk and then a fodder captain. FODDER! I'm not saying it would happen but I am saying you can't say it won't.
2. They cannot be repaired easily thats why they need a skilled Smith with them. Because if they get chipped Zoro is SOFL. And yes we can assume there are blacksmithes. WHERE DO YOU THINK SWORDS COME FROM!? The stars or someone forged those sons of *****es. Who forges swords? Blacksmiths. By your logic we can't say there are people who make guns in one piece cause we haven't seen a gun smith. But we have seen people shot. Or since we haven't seen babies made in one piece we can assume there was never any *** ever in op verse. THERE ARE SWORDS. THAT MEANS THERE ARE BLACKSMITHS.

As strong as zoro is his swords aren't the best in the world. There are 22 blades that can take more damage than his. 20 blades that can break his in a straight up head on collision.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

1. Eos Zoro Maybe the best swordsman but he doesn't have the best swords. That would be Mihawk. And he had his swords broken by Mihawk and then a fodder captain. FODDER! I'm not saying it would happen but I am saying you can't say it won't.
2. They cannot be repaired easily thats why they need a skilled Smith with them. Because if they get chipped Zoro is SOFL. And yes we can assume there are blacksmithes. WHERE DO YOU THINK SWORDS COME FROM!? The stars or someone forged those sons of *****es. Who forges swords? Blacksmiths. By your logic we can't say there are people who make guns in one piece cause we haven't seen a gun smith. But we have seen people shot. Or since we haven't seen babies made in one piece we can assume there was never any *** ever in op verse. THERE ARE SWORDS. THAT MEANS THERE ARE BLACKSMITHS.

As strong as zoro is his swords aren't the best in the world. There are 22 blades that can take more damage than his. 20 blades that can break his in a straight up head on collision.

That fodder captain is the perfect counter to any swordsman without Haki. The only way Zoro could have beat him without losing Yubashiri would be pound cannon, but he wasn't aware of Shu's ability.

 

[Tomato God]

That fodder captain is the perfect counter to any swordsman without Haki. The only way Zoro could have beat him without losing Yubashiri would be pound cannon, but he wasn't aware of Shu's ability.

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[Uzumaki Macho]

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What does that mean?

 

[Tomato God]

What does that mean?

The point was there are lots of people like shu. People who's powers are great against swordsmen and aren't know. And its they should be able to fix there stuff as needed.
Shu is a weak VA but he shouldn't be discounted. There are lots of people who can snap a sword.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Also, what would a blacksmiths dream be on the crew? Im guessing the blacksmiths dream would be to become the best blacksmith in the world or forge the best sword in the world, but how would joining the SHs help him?

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

The point was there are lots of people like shu. People who's powers are great against swordsmen and aren't know. And its they should be able to fix there stuff as needed.
Shu is a weak VA but he shouldn't be discounted. There are lots of people who can snap a sword.

Did you see what happened to Yubashiri? That is impossible to repair since all of it was turned to rust, and rusting is a chemical change so it cant be reversed unlike a physical change such as a sword being cut in half. So even if this guy was the best blacksmith in the world, the sword cant be repaired. He could replace it with new iron, but then it wouldn't be Yubashiri.

 

[Tomato God]

Did you see what happened to Yubashiri? That is impossible to repair since all of it was turned to rust, and rusting is a chemical change so it cant be reversed unlike a physical change such as a sword being cut in half.

Yea but no other people will rust swords but him. But people will snap them. Which is fixable.