[Discussion] The notion that you can Abandon your Crew

[Corgi]

Those are the most hardcore pirate crews in history.
A village.
A Kitchen.
And a group of people that help you take apart ships.

I explained why Law isn't. Luffy hated the Pirates that left laboon. He HATED THEM. Luffy isn't the straightest arrow in the box so when he sees someone and auto asked them to go on an adventure dont take it to heart. They arent crew. Law isnt crew. Luffy thinks he is. But he isnt.

Baratie-Group of close people who worked together in a kitchen, and treated each other like family
Franky Family-Group of thugs who were close and treated each other like family
Luffy's crew-Group of pirates who treat each other like family

Like I said, Luffy was angry at those pirates because he was under the impression that Laboon was abandoned, that they parted on sour terms. When he met one of those very pirates, and they explained what happened, he realized Laboon wasn't abandoned, the pirates were just unable to complete their promise. Upon discovering that the pirates left Laboon on good terms, what did he do? Boom, accepted one of these "hated" pirates into his crew.

It was never stated that Luffy hates people who abandons their crew, it was stated Luffy hates those who abandon their friends or people who rely on them. Usopp asserted Caesar is the kind he hates the most because Caesar abandoned and used those who relied on him. Last I checked, Caesar and his guards weren't a pirate crew, and seeing as how Usopp knows Luffy better than you do, clearly, it confirms that it doesn't matter if it's a pirate crew, a rag-tag group of friends, or a group of criminals, he hates you if you abandon who rely on you. Period. This collapses the very basis of your argument.

The fact that Luffy accepted Brook, Franky and Sanji is more than enough proof that Barto can join, regardless of if you want it to be that way or not.

And I know Law isn't a Strawhat. Explaining why is irrelevant because, as you said, Luffy doesn't understand why. It doesn't matter that Law isn't truly a Strawhat, what matters is that Luffy sees him as a Strawhat, which confirms that Luffy doesn't mind having people from other crews, even captains, in his crew. After all, Luffy has final say on who is in his crew. Shit, Shanks and Teach, polar opposite pirates, both have asked people who part of other crews to join theirs, with Marco and Ace respectively.

So enough of this "Barto can't join" bullshit.

 

[MickNerks]

It doesnt matter if they join if their current crew is dead. Brook was able to join because his crew was dead.

In regard to Barto, he definitely can join becuase his only introduced crewmate is dead. No one else from his crew was introduced so its safe for us to assume their may no be anyone else.

There was a point when the strawhats only had 2 members, and Mihawk only has 2 as well (Him and Perona). So currently Barto's only crewmate is dead, which means he is free to join the Straw Hats

 

[Corgi]

It doesnt matter if they join if their current crew is dead. Brook was able to join because his crew was dead.

In regard to Barto, he definitely can join becuase his only introduced crewmate is dead. No one else from his crew was introduced so its safe for us to assume their may no be anyone else.

There was a point when the strawhats only had 2 members, and Mihawk only has 2 as well (Him and Perona). So currently Barto's only crewmate is dead, which means he is free to join the Straw Hats

Last I checked, the Franky Family aren't dead, neither are the people on the Baratie. Also, proof his nakama is dead?

 

[MickNerks]

Last I checked, the Franky Family aren't dead, neither are the people on the Baratie. Also, proof his nakama is dead?

What are you talking about?? I wasn't talking about the franky family, I was saying that Brooks crew was dead, That was it.

Then I said the only known crewman that was introduced for bartolomeo is DEAD.. Nothing else suggest that he even has more crewmen.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

What are you talking about?? I wasn't talking about the franky family, I was saying that Brooks crew was dead, That was it.

Then I said the only known crewman that was introduced for bartolomeo is DEAD.. Nothing else suggest that he even has more crewmen.

I don't think Gambia is dead.

 

[Listz]

In most pirate ships there was three things punishable by death
Murder within the crew.
Mutiny.
Abandonment.


Do you remember how serious they treated Usopp when he left. They didn't speak to him they didn't think about him they didn't help him.

And when people bring up leaving your pirate crew to join they don't realize that joining a crew is something that is for life.
And its even worse for a captain to leave his ship. Down with the ship. You must die with that ship.
And as much as that means Barto can't (or shouldn't be able to join with ease) Join the straw hats. It means Hancock couldn't join the crew (her pistol kiss included) Simply due to the fact that Its impossible for a captain to abandon their crew and their ship.

@bold: I will forever remember you as Hancock's Pistol Kiss lover. So DO NOT, by any mean, CHANGE YOUR USERNAME, got it bro?

OT:
Actually, it depends on the captain himself. If he wants to apply that, then it will be done. Same goes to the crew members.

About Usopp's case, it's because Zoro realises the best pirate crew is when a captain doesn't make light on such things and the crews have concrete respect to their own captain. If it's not due to Zoro's strong objection, Luffy wouldn't mind at all, since he was simple-minded plus disliked complex matter.

About WB, as an example, did he say that Teach needed to be killed as punishment right after knowing he killed a member and fled? WB obstructed Ace, told him to let it be while Ace was the one whom got in rage. WB only got more pissed off when Ace was caught by Teach himself later on then he put two things together to beat that traitor and refused to call him as his son in MF.

 

[MickNerks]

I don't think Gambia is dead.

He may not be.. But where has he been this whole time?

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

He may not be.. But where has he been this whole time?

Probably became a toy and then returned to the other Barto Pirates after he became human again.

 

[Corgi]

What are you talking about?? I wasn't talking about the franky family, I was saying that Brooks crew was dead, That was it.

Then I said the only known crewman that was introduced for bartolomeo is DEAD.. Nothing else suggest that he even has more crewmen.

You said that Brook was permitted to join because his group was dead, implying that if they were alive or if he had a group, Brook wouldn't have been permitted to join. I cited the Franky family and the Baratie to disagree.

Gambia is the staff officer, having a titled position implies other positions in the crew, meaning, more crew members.

 

[MickNerks]

You said that Brook was permitted to join because his group was dead, implying that if they were alive or if he had a group, Brook wouldn't have been permitted to join. I cited the Franky family and the Baratie to disagree.

Gambia is the staff officer, having a titled position implies other positions in the crew, meaning, more crew members.

Oh, I didnt mean to suggest your crew HAD to be DEAD..

Your right about Gambia...