Another Misconception. Itachi couldn't handle it.

[BenjerminGaye]

Let me point this out to both of you:

You do realize that the Databook stats aren't meant to be compared? It's the characters growth in a fixed field, otherwise we could compare Tsunade's and Base Gai's physical strength. Both get a five, but one of Gai's greatest feats in base is punching a man through a wall whereas Tsunade crushed a castle casually.

Kakashi has not displayed chakra feats that put him above Itachi. Simple as that.

8 raikiri's 5 kamui's 2 shadow clones and two days straight of fighting without anything from naruto, and stayed conscious
Where as itachi uses crow clones (cost less), generic fire balls and at the most 4 ms techs that ultimately killed him.

 

[Trúth]

8 raikiri's 5 kamui's 2 shadow clones and two days straight of fighting without anything from naruto, and stayed conscious
Where as itachi uses crow clones (cost less), generic fire balls and at the most 4 ms techs that ultimately killed him.

Severely underrating Itachi and hyping up Kakashi here. I need panels of all the listed especially 5 Kamui's.

Kishimoto translate their power into numbers so the fans can compare them.

Or he does it to give you a numerical representation

 

[XxLapizxLazulixX]

Who said Itachi couldn't handle the power?

 

[Sound]

Thought this was going to be your first good thread until you started turning this into a vs. thread

Also:

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Itachi databook stats:

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Kakashi databook stats:

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These are only up to datebook 3 so War arc Kakashi stamina is not included.

PS: Itachi's sickness affected his stamina so you can include that.

 

[Trúth]

Thought this was going to be your first good thread until you started turning this a versus thread.

Also:

Spoiler

Itachi databook stats:

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Kakashi databook stats:

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These are only up to datebook 3 so War arc Kakashi stamina is not included.

PS: Itachi's sickness affected his stamina so you can include that.

Did you read all of it? At what point did I make it a vs thread? Kakashi is only there for comparison, nothing more

 

[Magatsu Izanagi]

A comprehensive thread, devoid of trolling or bashing. This is what I like to see.

I disagree with a few things here and there, but I'm not even going to bother arguing them, because I completely agree that his chakra control and stamina are being unfairly evaluated and underrated (many people throw around "stamina" without fully comprehending the factors involved). To what extent that's true is up for debate, and you did a good job of supporting your opinions.

Well done, Trúth.

 

[Trúth]

A comprehensive thread, devoid of trolling or bashing. This is what I like to see.

I disagree with a few things here and there, but I'm not even going to bother arguing them, because I completely agree that his chakra control and stamina are being unfairly evaluated and underrated (many people throw around "stamina" without fully comprehending the factors involved). To what extent that's true is up for debate, and you did a good job of supporting your opinions.

Well done, Trúth.

Feel free to VM your disagreements. Much thanks

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Let me point this out to both of you:

You do realize that the Databook stats aren't meant to be compared? It's the characters growth in a fixed field, otherwise we could compare Tsunade's and Base Gai's physical strength. Both get a five, but one of Gai's greatest feats in base is punching a man through a wall whereas Tsunade crushed a castle casually.

Kakashi has not displayed chakra feats that put him above Itachi. Simple as that.

You forgetting that kakashi isn't uchiha (not yet tho lol) it takes alot of chakra for him to yse MS techniques more than it takes do itachi to use his ms techniques and by the way databook is meant for he fans to know their characters strong and weak points .

 

[Trúth]

You forgetting that kakashi isn't uchiha (not yet tho lol) it takes alot of chakra for him to yse MS techniques more than it takes do kakashi to use his ms techniques and by the way databook is meant for the fans to know their characters strong and weak points .

I'm not forgetting this. It still takes plenty of chakra to use MS Techs for Uchiha's as well.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Severely underrating Itachi and hyping up Kakashi here. I need panels of all the listed especially 5 Kamui's.

Or he does it to give you a numerical representation

So wait? Is grand fireball not the generic uchiha technique? Heck sasuke learned it and mastered it b4 he even left the academy.
First kamui was on Gedo mazo head, Obito reversed it.
Second Kamui was on his raikiri kunai, cut obito's mask
Third kamui was on Naruto's rasengan, blasted through Obito's arm
Forth kamui was on Naruto's clone, clone broke Obito's mask.
Fifth kamui was on himself after obito sent him there.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

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[Venomous Cobra]

I'm not forgetting this. It still takes plenty of chakra to use MS Techs for Uchiha's as well.

But it does more drain to non-uchiha user than an uchiha

 

[Sound]

Did you read all of it? At what point did I make it a vs thread? Kakashi is only there for comparison, nothing more

I did U_U Some points from the 1/2 of the thread need correction. Overall I get the big picture of stamina

@ul I'll have a hard time buying that but if your future threads
are at least as good as this [considering your past threads Lol] I might.​

 

[Trúth]

So wait? Is grand fireball not the generic uchiha technique? Heck sasuke learned it and mastered it b4 he even left the academy.
First kamui was on Gedo mazo head, Obito reversed it.
attempted Kamui
Second Kamui was on his raikiri kunai, cut obito's mask
Kamui'd a small kunai? immpressive
Third kamui was on Naruto's rasengan, blasted through Obito's arm
A rasengan? Doesn't compare to setting a good portion forest on fire. Each tree in there is larger than a rasengan or kunai.
Forth kamui was on Naruto's clone, clone broke Obito's mask.
This actually is impressive, but doesn't beat the amaterasu feat
Fifth kamui was on himself after obito sent him there.
I'm pretty sure Obito sent him there after he received chakra from Kurama himself.

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I did U_U Some points from the 1/2 of the thread need correction. Overall I get the big picture of stamina

@ul I'll have a hard time buying that but if your future threads
are at least as good as this [considering your past threads Lol] I will.​

You must have missed my last 5 or 6 threads.

But it does more drain to non-uchiha user than an uchiha

Yes, but can you measure how much?

 

[Akame]

The Trùth has been spoken. I agree with thread 500%

 

[the last uchiha]

nice thread nicley backed up with mangafacts. obviously itachi has a highier stamina them kakashi. tsukiyomi,ameratsu,standardjutsu,susanoo,spiritweapons,disease,sealed orochimaru

in one fight means he had really high stamina itachi is all round 5's on stats

 

[BenjerminGaye]

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You must have missed my last 5 or 6 threads.

Yes, but can you measure how much?

1.attempted kamui still drains chakra
2.still kamui. Still ms
3.continues use of ama doesn't compare to kamui.
4.kinda does
5. No it was before. Obito sent him there three times in total.

 

[Trúth]

1.attempted kamui still drains chakra
2.still kamui. Still ms
3.continues use of ama doesn't compare to kamui.
4.kinda does
5. No it was before. Obito sent him there three times in total.

Are we actually comparing using Kamui on small objects like kunai and rasengan or using Kamui on larger objects when Itachi literally set a forest on fire?

 

[Mellow]

1.attempted kamui still drains chakra
2.still kamui. Still ms
3.continues use of ama doesn't compare to kamui.
4.kinda does
5. No it was before. Obito sent him there three times in total.

lol itachi amateratsu smammed Sasuke as many times as Kakashi used kamui during the whole war.
Oh wow 2 kage bunshins? How about a back to back genjutsu encounter + clones

Susanoooooooooooooooo

More amateratsu ( transcript seal)

Big ass fireball and he still managed to pretty much out last Sasuke. Since he was sick and still had more stamina and chakra than sasuce

 

[Torche]

Great thread, well thought out, and it speaks the Trúth. I agree completely.