Another Misconception. Itachi couldn't handle it.

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Now before we get to the Trúth let me remind you all that not only will all posts that clearly didn't read the OP be ignored but they will also be reported. That's just how it is. Don't like it, don't post. Simple.<3

Misconception: Itachi can't handle current powerups. If he had been given Rikudo chakra it would have been too much for him to handle.
Introduction

The above is simply not true. Many of you underrate Itachi's chakra and stamina heavily. It's true that they are not high, but they are equal to or greater than Kakashi's at least. Based from what we've seen from Itachi there is no reason to believe Itachi has less chakra than the average high level jounin.


We have seen Itachi use up all of his chakra once. During the fight with Sasuke, at the very end we can assume ran out out of chakra. He used the last of it to give Sasuke a temporary amaterasu powerup. This alone proves that Itachi had greater reserves of chakra than Sasuke at that time.

The thing that most people don't even realize is Itachi didn't even start the battle with Sasuke at 100%.
And another one waiting for Sasuke to arrive. While Crow Clones do cost the user less chakra to use than regular shadow clones where the power of each clone is divided in half each time, that doesn't change the fact that Itachi did not start the battle with 100% chakra.

Chakra
Stamina is defined as, "the ability to sustain prolonged physical or mental effort." Itachi easily kept up with Hebi Sasuke throughout the battle.

The truth is, Itachi has displayed more chakra and stamina feats than Kakashi has. Inb4 ignorant fans tell me War Arc Kakashi spammed Kamui. I'm well aware of War Arc Kakashi's chakra feats. But they are invalid. Naruto provided Kakashi with plenty of chakra to give him the ability to spam this tech. Thus giving him chakra feats that well don't belong to him. Itachi's chakra feats put him above Kakashi in terms of chakra.

Amaterasu [/URL]
Multiple Clones
There is more but for the sake of keeping this short I'll stop here. The amaterasu alone should be more than enough to prove my point anyway.

Kakashi
We all remember this panel I'm sure. Kakashi received the Sages Chakra from Obito We can also assume that he has Obito's chakra as well since that's the only way to explain So to sum it up Kakashi at this point has,

  • Rikudo Chakra
  • His own(severely depleted at this point)
  • Obito's Uchiha chakra
Conclusion​
As we see here Kakashi's eyes were actually strengthend by Rikudo chakra. Judging from this page we can tell that Kakashi despite having less chakra than Itachi is handling Rikudo power perfectly. It is absurd to say that Kakashi can do this and Itachi cannot. Not only does he possess more chakra to better control the chakra, he is a true born Uchiha who has had the MS longer. His chakra control is on another level as well but that will be for another thread.

If you made it this far thanks very much for reading :D
 

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This is the first time I'm agreeing with you, Lord Eternal.
Also Kakashi wasn't spamming kamui during the war itself, but during the fight with Obito. We all know Kakashi was replenished by Naruto after he used Kamui couple of times
 

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Stamina
Kakashi: 3
Itachi: 2.5
Obviously things have changed since then. Not to mention that databook stats are not meant to be compared.
This is the first time I'm agreeing with you, Lord Eternal.
Also Kakashi wasn't spamming kamui during the war itself, but during the fight with Obito. We all know Kakashi was replenished by Naruto after he used Kamui couple of times
Lol Thanks, I wanted to include that but I was trying to keep it short.
 

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I agree that itachi can handle rikudo chakra. I don't agree that itachi has more stamina than war arc kakashi

When comparing them you have to consider that the sharingan drains way more of kakashi's chakra than itachi's.

Kakashi was only given chakra by naruto after obito's mask was broken, prior to that

Kakashi fought for 2 days straight against multiple foes including 7 swordsmen, edo jinchuriki and also using multiple kamui attacks aginst masked obito.

The above feats put him above itachi in terms of stamina U_U
 

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Itachi can't handle anything currently, because he's dead.
*To Gagster* Now that was cold... :(

*To Thread* But I enjoyed reading this thread. It was simple to read and the font was also simple to read while still looking professional. You even backed up your points with picture sources. Very good job.
:win:
 

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Nice thread. You made me realize Itachi's stamina is actually above the average persons. It's just not as high as it should be due to some unknown disease that Kishi will most likely never explain anything about. I really wanna know how he got it, what does it do exactly, and why he didn't get a medical ninja to heal him or something lol. People have been getting rofl stomped by Obito, Madara, and the Juubi and come out fine cause of medical ninjas but Itachi can't get rid of his sickness.
 

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Obviously things have changed since then. Not to mention that databook stats are not meant to be compared.

Lol Thanks, I wanted to include that but I was trying to keep it short.
his stamina for normal techniques went up, but his stamina for ms techniques, indeed improved, was not that high.
 

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his stamina for normal techniques went up, but his stamina for ms techniques, indeed improved, was not that high.
Correct.
I agree that itachi can handle rikudo chakra. I don't agree that itachi has more stamina than war arc kakashi

When comparing them you have to consider that the sharingan drains way more of kakashi's chakra than itachi's.

Kakashi was only given chakra by naruto after obito's mask was broken, prior to that

Kakashi fought for 2 days straight against multiple foes including 7 swordsmen, edo jinchuriki and also using multiple kamui attacks aginst masked obito.

The above feats put him above itachi in terms of stamina U_U
Point taken.
 

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Obviously things have changed since then. Not to mention that databook stats are not meant to be compared.
Actually things haven't changed at all, at least not for itachi. The last databook was made after itachi's death so whatever Stat he had was truly his max amount. Where as kakashi's (who even back then had more than him) sky rocketed. It's no where near safe to say kakashi=<itachi in chakra.

The only reason the two even seem comparable is the fact that sharingan drains kakashi more than it does itachi, and the effect is compounded upon entering ms.
 
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Actually things haven't changed at all, at least not for itachi. The last databook was made after itachi's death so whatever Stat he had was truly his max amount. Where as kakashi's (who even back then had more than him) sky rocketed. It's no where near safe to say kakashi=<itachi in chakra.
/thread no need to explain more than that
Let me point this out to both of you:

You do realize that the Databook stats aren't meant to be compared? It's the characters growth in a fixed field, otherwise we could compare Tsunade's and Base Gai's physical strength. Both get a five, but one of Gai's greatest feats in base is punching a man through a wall whereas Tsunade crushed a castle casually.

Kakashi has not displayed chakra feats that put him above Itachi. Simple as that.
 

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Let me point this out to both of you:

You do realize that the Databook stats aren't meant to be compared? It's the characters growth in a fixed field, otherwise we could compare Tsunade's and Base Gai's physical strength. Both get a five, but one of Gai's greatest feats in base is punching a man through a wall whereas Tsunade crushed a castle casually.

Kakashi has not displayed chakra feats that put him above Itachi. Simple as that.
Kishimoto translate their power into numbers so the fans can compare them.
 
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