[Discussion] Akainu Underrated; The Strongest Marine

[Vandenre1ch]

I wasn't planning on doing this but I felt this had to be done. I really feel as though Akainu(and the other admirals) are underrated simply because of their rank. People seem to think Akainu is permanently "Fleet Admiral level" all because of his battles with Whitebeard and Aokiji. Both battles are filled with misconceptions that I will tackle and prove why Akainu is one of the most powerful people currently living(top 4 and top 10 overall) and the most powerful man in the marines right now.

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Akainu vs Whitebeard

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The first reason why people underrate Akainu is because he "lost to old, sick and dying Whitebeard." I don't think so.

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Whitebeard came at Akainu from behind and hit him with a point blank Gura punch. Akainu quickly got up and removed half of Whitebeard's face before getting with ANOTHER point blank Gura punch which Akainu survived and kept fighting afterwards.

Even before that, Akainu was fighting on par with old, injured Whitbeard and was in control.

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Akainu also wasn't the kind of opponent WB should create openings for. Getting distracted by his sick health caused a hole to be punched in his chest.

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Oh and lets not forget that Akainu was very eager to fight Whitebeard.

Akainu vs. WB Pirate Allaince

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Something very important people fail to realize about Akainu is....that the only person who hurt him in the enitre war was Whitebeard. And that was only because of a sneak attack.
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Jimbei

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Marco and Vista

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WB Commanders+Crocodile

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All these prominent haki users could do NOTHING to Akainu. Not even Marco. The same Marco who did this:

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He kicked both Kizaru and Aokiji. So why couldn't he kick Akainu? Simple....

Akainu's Superior Haki

Because of his monster haki, Akainu can remain more tangable than other logias. More haki is required to hurt him. If Akainu was in Dressrosa instead of Fujitora, every pirate there including Luffy, Sabo and Doflamingo will be dead. All because their haki isn't strong enough. Its the only reason why Akainu stood down against Shanks at Marineford.

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When Shanks arrived, he became the only person able to hurt Akainu and it would've led to the marine's defeat if Akainu kept fighting.

Hell, Even Blackbeard, who had the dark and tremor fruit RAN AWAY form Akainu! Even with his enitre crew there, they all were in agreement and booked it without hestiation when Van Auger saw Aakinu.

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Why did they run away? Because Akainu is that powerful. BB knew that none had haki strong enough to hurt Aakinu at the time. If they fought, Akainu would've killed them all.

So if Akainu is that strong, that means Aokiji is that strong because Akainu barely beat him at Punk Hazard. Wrong!

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Lets do some basic chemisty. To get straight to the point, Magma=Ice! Magma is very dense and can be frozen but at the same time, the ice melts. Both magma and ice transfers heat at an equal rate and cancels out each other. It doesn't matter if Aokiji and Akainu had no haki whatsoever, but do to the nature of their DFs, they can still hurt each other no matter what. Aokiji and Akainu are opposites who were made to fight each other. It was simply a bad match up.

Akainu and Aokiji are as equal as they come, but Akainu emerged victorous because he has superior haki. His better haki made him tougher and hit harder. No matter how many times Akainu and Aokiji fight, Akainu will be the winner.

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There you have it people. Akainu is extremely powerful and I believe he can beat Kaido and Big Mam in a 1v1. Akainu is currently stronger than Garp and Sengoku and the only people who can possibly defeat him right now are Shanks, Dragon and maybe Blackbeard.

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[My Username]

Agree.......

 

[Saikyokami]

ace's guts solo

 

[Saikyokami]

ace's guts solo

Im sorry, that was too far.

 

[Hexuze]

I wouldn't say Akainu had won that fight due to superior haki because from the looks of it, it seems that Aokiji had the superior haki but lost due to elemental disadvantage. I mean you can look at it both ways & it's a huge assumption to say that.

P.S fix the scans & add the scan of BB AND his crew running from Akainu. Other than that, gj. People really underestimate admirals in general when they're compared to yonko's.

 

[Blunt]

BB definitely isn't in Akainu's league yet, otherwise great thread and I agree.

 

[Jordanofthecloud]

I agree. Akianu is a beast. If Akainu and Fugitora had an all out fight, Akainu would win, no matter how much gravity Fugitora chooses to apply. Applying gravity/ force/ pressure on akainu is pointless. I bet it would make him stronger, like in an Eruption State (since so much pressure is applied to lava logia).

 

[Osmon]

Nice fanfic man ^^

 

[I'm stupid real stupid]

Agree....Akainu is beast...some say Smoker and Coby will surpass him XD

 

[Rokudaime Hokage Naruto]

You're wrong about equal heat transfer.

Aokiji's ice is likely -50c to -100c, whilst Akainu's magma is between 700c and 1300c whilst the enviroment was probably around 20c.

This means Aokiji needs something between 7 to 26 times more ice in volume compared to Akainu's magma in order to force a stalemate.

 

[Zorø]

Akainu is strong no doubt but whitebeard shitted on him at marineford the only reason he is alive is solely because of plot and It would make the manga more interesting U_U.

 

[Hexuze]

Akainu is strong no doubt but whitebeard shitted on him at marineford the only reason he is alive is solely because of plot and It would make the manga more interesting U_U.

WB left the battle with life threatening injuries despite landing a sneak attack on him & being enraged.

OT: I actually change my mind, Aokiji/Sengoku are more underrated. You can add that interview where oda said Akainu can put an end to One Piece within one year.

 

[ushasam]

I don't think Akainu is anywhere as strong as Garp talk less of being stronger than him. Sengoku stopped Garp from facing Akainu after the battle simply because Garp was about to kill him then. But defeating those Yonkos mentioned in a 1on1 match, I don't think it'll be that easy

Secondly Akainu isn't amongst the characters that need to be enraged before performing well in any kind of fight. Monster haki you said, he should've been able to figure out WB's so called sneak attack before getting hit. This simply shows that WB isn't in his league.
I'm not saying he's weak or underrating him, but seriously you guys are overestimating him. WB was feared for his strength and stamina, not just his DF abilities.

 

[Zorø]

WB left the battle with life threatening injuries despite landing a sneak attack on him & being enraged.

OT: I actually change my mind, Aokiji/Sengoku are more underrated. You can add that interview where oda said Akainu can put an end to One Piece within one year.

Yhhh but the fact still remains Akainu got shitted on U_U it doesnt matter if it was a sneak attack just shows Akainu's CoO haki isnt that good and he was younger aswell and also enraged Whitbeard raped Akainu in two punches even though he got his face blown off Akainu is nowhere near a sick old half dead Whitebeard in strength.

 

[bsims08]

What about kong

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

What about kong

He isn't part of the Marines anymore. However, in the WG he is the strongest fighter. The Gorosei together are stronger than him but if he fought a Gorosei 1v1 he would win, no matter what Gorosei it was. This is how I see it.
Gorosei together>Kong>Garp>=Sengoku=Akainu>an Admiral=a Gorosei.

 

[Corgi]

I don't think Akainu is anywhere as strong as Garp talk less of being stronger than him. Sengoku stopped Garp from facing Akainu after the battle simply because Garp was about to kill him then. But defeating those Yonkos mentioned in a 1on1 match, I don't think it'll be that easy

Secondly Akainu isn't amongst the characters that need to be enraged before performing well in any kind of fight. Monster haki you said, he should've been able to figure out WB's so called sneak attack before getting hit. This simply shows that WB isn't in his league.
I'm not saying he's weak or underrating him, but seriously you guys are overestimating him. WB was feared for his strength and stamina, not just his DF abilities.

How do you know Sengoku didn't stop Garp because Garp was heading straight to Hell? Also, every single thing you said here has been proven incorrect in the manga. For one, WB did not put down Akainu. He caught Akainu off-guard and dropped him in a hole. In the end, WB had half of his face cleaved off and could barely fight on, as even Teach's crew could take him, while Akainu got back up through the hole and could keep on fighting top tiers like Marco and Vista, taking no damage from their Haki strikes. Before this, Akainu matched blows with WB by stopping his Bisento swing with just one leg and getting out of that ordeal unscratched, while WB ended up with a molten hole in his chest.

 

[A v i]

I am pretty sure any other admiral can push him to his limits. Akainu is not underrated and in fact he's one of overrated characters.I don't think he can beat a Yonko in a one on one battle but he's a good match for anyone of them just like any other admiral.

 

[Vandenre1ch]

You're wrong about equal heat transfer.

Aokiji's ice is likely -50c to -100c, whilst Akainu's magma is between 700c and 1300c whilst the enviroment was probably around 20c.

This means Aokiji needs something between 7 to 26 times more ice in volume compared to Akainu's magma in order to force a stalemate.

Your both right and wrong. For an experiment, 10 lbs of magma was poured onto 10 lbs of ice. The ice melted. However, the magma lost all its heat and became useless rock.

Magma=Ice and Aokiji wasn't at an elemental disadvantage.

You also have to consider that Aokiji and Akainu and create infinite amounts of magma and ice. Aokiji's ice faster(you saw how fast he froze Doflamingo and the grounds at aleast a 5 meter radius. Akainu's magma is slower. If Aokiji was really at a disadvantage, then why was Punk Hazard 50% hot and 50% cold? It should've more a summer island if that was the case.

 

[David1996]

1. Akainu shouldn't have survived that hit from WB, it was definitely plot shield.
2. Aokiji was busy fighting Luffy when Marco kicked him. It was a sidekick too, unlike Akainu who already saw him coming.
3. I disagree with the Magma=Ice Idea. Magma>Fire>=Ice, Ace vs Aokiji (Fire vs Ice)(Draw) and Ace vs Akainu (Fire vs Magma)(Akainu win) battles proves it. I believe that ice is at huge disadvantage when faced off with Magma. And for Aokiji to survive 10 days at such disadvantage makes him IMO the better of the two.