[Discussion] Reason why Teach is the final villain and not Akainu

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BB is opposite of Luffy, he is evil version of him.

The only thing Akainu has over BB is that Akainu killed someone close to Luffy, I believe that BB will kill Shanks in the future, which will make him FV.
 

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Another instance of the Admirals being underrated, especially Sakazuki.
I think Luffy would be able to take on Sakzuki EoS but with extreme diff.

Saying that, I don't see how you could give us anything close to what will happen at the EoS, there is so much more to happen which will effect it.
For all we know Teach and Sakazuki could be dead by the end. Maybe a new character which hasn't been introduced yet will be the EoS villain for all we know. Look at when Dressrosa first started, people predicted how it would go down and tbh most predictions sounded extremely likely. I also remember that one guy making a thread around the time saying Sabo would show up in the arc and everyone ridiculing him. Now look what happened ;) we had a new Admiral and Sabos return.
My point being all you posted above will most likely not happen at all the way you think or anybody else does.

Personally, I think the entirety of the World Government will be the villain, but it wouldn't surprise me if i'm wrong.
I believe Admirals = Yonkous more or less, so i'm not underestimating them at all. It's just that Oda's power-scaling made past legends above the current one by displaying their old and ill versions on par if not stronger than the current strongest generation. I honestly think i scaled them as best as i could

BB is opposite of Luffy, he is evil version of him.

The only thing Akainu has over BB is that Akainu killed someone close to Luffy, I believe that BB will kill Shanks in the future, which will make him FV.
I see this happening as well
 

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Blackbeard should be final villian. Its makes much more sense storyline wise and symbolic wise.

Am I the only one who thinks Luffy beating Blackbeard, becoming PK and defeating the WG in that order is a bit straight-foward and plain?

I say Shanks fights Blackbeards while Lufy becomes PK. Luffy then defeats the WG and eventually has his final fight with Blackbeard.
 

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I say the final fight is a curve ball and luffy has to fight gender swapped luffy.
 

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i don't doubt that BB will be final opponent.i never did but you seem to be underestimating the admirals
 

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I believe Admirals = Yonkous more or less, so i'm not underestimating them at all. It's just that Oda's power-scaling made past legends above the current one by displaying their old and ill versions on par if not stronger than the current strongest generation. I honestly think i scaled them as best as i could

Ye I understand. That one thing can mess up the entirety of power scaling.
Plus I have no idea how strong Roger was back in the day. If he was around Yonko level then most Admirals should be able to push him to extreme diff, and therefore Luffy. I usually use Shanks as a marker for EoS Luffy instead of Roger (I know, we have seen nothing from Shanks either, but more than Roger).
 

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i don't doubt that BB will be final opponent.i never did but you seem to be underestimating the admirals
No, i don't underrate them. Like i've said i do think admirals = Yonkous more or less. It's not admirals who are underrated. It's Oda who put the older generation above the current one by displaying their old and ill state on par if not stronger than the current strongest

Ye I understand. That one thing can mess up the entirety of power scaling.
Plus I have no idea how strong Roger was back in the day. If he was around Yonko level then most Admirals should be able to push him to extreme diff, and therefore Luffy. I usually use Shanks as a marker for EoS Luffy instead of Roger (I know, we have seen nothing from Shanks either, but more than Roger).
Roger was equal if not stronger than Prime Whitebeard, it's what the manga says through Buggy and Prime Whitebeard is obviously above his old and ill self who was still above Shanks and other yonkous alive by being the WSM even in that state. The portrayal of the current generation is terrible compared to the past one
 

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Roger was equal if not stronger than Prime Whitebeard, it's what the manga says through Buggy and Prime Whitebeard is obviously above his old and ill self who was still above Shanks and other yonkous alive by being the WSM even in that state. The portrayal of the current generation is terrible compared to the past one

About Newgate being the WsM is really debateable since we saw what it took to take him down and i'm sure Shanks could probably slightly exceed that damage.
 

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I am sure that EOS final villan will be luffy's evil gender swapped twin from the future.
 

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About Newgate being the WsM is really debateable since we saw what it took to take him down and i'm sure Shanks could probably slightly exceed that damage.
Shanks himself admitted inferiority to old and sick WB when he discussed with him on the ship. Oda put his title on the introduction box as the world strongest man even in a old and sick state. We've no reason to doubt his words
 

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Imma just keep posting till someone tells me to go away.

IMO when the series ends it will be the best fight cause it will be an internal fight not an external fight. Should luffy beat up his future evil female twin or not. That will be the big question.
 

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Shanks himself admitted inferiority to old and sick WB when he discussed with him on the ship. Oda put his title on the introduction box as the world strongest man even in a old and sick state. We've no reason to doubt his words

When did he say that? All I remember is them talking about Teach then clashing...prove me wrong but I would have thought if Shanks launched himself at him he must have been pretty confident.
 

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When did he say that? All I remember is them talking about Teach then clashing...prove me wrong but I would have thought if Shanks launched himself at him he must have been pretty confident.
Here:

Notice how he says Teach will reach the top(yonkous) and eventually obtain Whitebeard's position too

Eventually = After some time
Too = as well(after taking other positions)

So this statement shows Shanks considered old and sick Whitebeard above the top(yonkous including himself) considering he says it will take time for Blackbeard to take Whitebeard's position even after reaching the top
 

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Here:

Notice how he says Teach will reach the top(yonkous) and eventually obtain Whitebeard's position too

Eventually = After some time
Too = as well(after taking other positions)

So this statement shows Shanks considered old and sick Whitebeard above the top(yonkous including himself) considering he says it will take time for Blackbeard to take Whitebeard's position even after reaching the top

How does it?
Teach wasn't even a Yonko back then first off.
He's literally just saying Teach will eventually get to Newgates position and strength. I have no idea how you thought otherwise.
 

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@the end of my post, yes WB did harm an admiral but even that happened because he sneaked Akainu from behind.


Umm what... EoS Luffy low-diffing admirals?
OP not realizing that Akainu is FA not admiral
OP believes that EoS Zoro will mid-diff admirals...

Now this is just silly. Unless you're Lord Madara (bless his soul) in no way, shape or form are you low-diffing an admiral LMAO.
Y'all better realize that the admirals of this era are>the ones who existed during Roger's era. Why you my ask? simple,
the pirates of this era>the pirates in Roger's era. This is the golden age of piracy, piracy is at an all time high. Back in Roger's time there weren't so many strong pirates. With the golden age of piracy, of course the WG's strongest force is now stronger then back when there weren't many enemies.


I don't care if EoS Luffy is PK. What kind of a joke is WG if their strongest fighters are getting soloed by a single pirate.


The admiral underrestimation is at an all time high. Even old WB wasn't able to put a scratch on the admirals. Akainu stopped an attack from WB's bisento with his foot U_U
 

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This. The gorosei will be the only people able to keep up with the straw hats.

Honestly EOS all the straw hats should be able to mid diff an admiral. The only ones able to keep up should be the gorosei turned prime by mrs bonney.

Teach aint shit.
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Robin>Admiral? Chopper>Admiral? Nami>Admiral?

Akainu rapes
Aokiji stomps
Kizaru trolls
Fujitora rotfl stomps
Green Bull lol diffs

I only see M3 surpassing Admiral
 

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Looool
Robin>Admiral? Chopper>Admiral? Nami>Admiral?

Akainu rapes
Aokiji stomps
Kizaru trolls
Fujitora rotfl stomps
Green Bull lol diffs

I only see M3 surpassing Admiral

Not now of course.. But yes.
 

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U completely ignore the fact about the building up of the VC and that the real enemy of the world is the WG
It should be someone from the WG.
 

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i think luffy vs bb is going to be for onepiece but its not the final battle we all know wg dsnt want OP to be found so i think luffy beats bb get one piece which will expose wg horrible crimes\secrets and the final arc will be the world war and the main villian will be one of the gorosie not akainu
 
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