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I'm no Kakashi fanboy, but since him attaining MS he seems OP. I can't come up with a logical explanation of some defeating unless his MS fades, or the are Ridoku. Don't bash me but

Naruto, Bee, and Kakashi had to find an strategy to defeat his ability to DEMATERIALIZE which was really him using kumai to send the parts of his body to the kumai dimension. And the only reason the countered it was because of Kakashi Kumai.

So can only Kumai fight Kumai?

His susano throws huge shuriken. and when they hit you, you get sent to the dimension if you survive it.

So its lose lose right?

Not to mention Lighting Blade+Kumai. It doesn't make much since but that's also OP.

Kakashi isn't nearly my favorite, I just don't see anyone beating him. Can someone explain him losing.

I'd actually love to know, I'm not intentionally making a Kakashi>all thread
 

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Naruto and Sasuke (in the range of his Rinnegan ability) beat him. Kakashi has a lot of power, but he doesn't have the reflexes and the insight of the speed-levels of Naruto and Sasuke. If he can't react to their speed, his Kamui is useless.
 

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Juubi people don't count

And I'm not seeing explanation?
I'm practically the most biased Kakashi fan around here. Do you really need an explanation?
Kaguya can only be sealed by those two marks.
Madara has the base speed to not get caught in a Kamui. He then proceeds to limbo and have multiple V3 Susano'o and a PS. Kakashi loses due to stamina problems.
Hagoromo is featless. I'm just assuming he wins.
Naruto because that blonde is a speed freak. Kakashi, again, loses due to Stamina problems.
Juubito because I don't think Kakashi can really damage him. His Black Raikiri might murder Obito, so perhaps Kakashi can win.

Juubi people count. Why don't they?
 

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You're right. Nobody with rikudou chakra can beat Kakashi. But kamui by itself was already hax,
and Kakashi clearly states that his eyes are strengthened by rikudou chakra. As a result, hax eyes
that are further powered by rikudou chakra, naturally require someone with more rikudou chakra
and lots of skill to defeat.
 

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Why didn't you mention Sasuke? If in range, Sasuke can easily deal a blow to Kakashi, like Naruto.
I didn't say he was gonna land a blow. He just won't get caught in Kamui.
Sasuke won't easily land a blow. Intangibility is still faster. The only reason I put Naruto there is because he'll outlast him in terms of stamina.
 

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I'm practically the most biased Kakashi fan around here. Do you really need an explanation?
Kaguya can only be sealed by those two marks.
Madara has the base speed to not get caught in a Kamui. He then proceeds to limbo and have multiple V3 Susano'o and a PS. Kakashi loses due to stamina problems.
Hagoromo is featless. I'm just assuming he wins.
Naruto because that blonde is a speed freak. Kakashi, again, loses due to Stamina problems.
Juubito because I don't think Kakashi can really damage him. His Black Raikiri might murder Obito, so perhaps Kakashi can win.

Juubi people count. Why don't they?
Kaguya is god
And his stamina problems were due to the fact him having one MS his body wasn't use to it. He could only Kumai like twice.

He's basically an uchiha now
Speed to hit him before he kumais his body?

Why didn't that work against obito
 

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Kamui is probably the best S/T technique in the series. It needs to go for how broken it is. lel it took 3-4 people to fight against kamui and a prepped and intel attack to deal with kamui; then it was boosted by having both eyes and boosted even further with rikudo chakra lel. Kakashi just wrecked the tier list with 1 power up.
 

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I didn't say he was gonna land a blow. He just won't get caught in Kamui.
Sasuke won't easily land a blow. Intangibility is still faster. The only reason I put Naruto there is because he'll outlast him in terms of stamina.
Kakashi can't keep up with the speed of his ability. His body and his reflexes aren't used to Naruto's or Sasuke's levels of reactions. Therefore, if he can't react fast enough, he can't execute Kamui fast enough.
 
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