Hagoromo Ōtsutsuki: The Last Enemy That Shall Be Destroyed

[ssjsage]

Amazing theory bro. If I could rep you again I would. Hagaromo being evil would be a great plot twist. Good job dude. Update me on any other theories you make they are always a great read

 

[MadaraReturns]

In fact Hagoromo was shown to possess the Yang in his Younger days

Don't you mean 'in his YANGer days'?Lol
But anyways, almost anything makes sense and I believe this could be very true. Very nice thread and thanx.

 

[Leinad Sotam]

Very nice read! As too my opinion on the matter, I also believe that Hagoromo is nifty. To me this latest chapter showcased a very strange occurrence.

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Hagoromo getting the Yin and Yang seals back was just too awkward, he just gave them to Naruto and Sasuke, he never said it was temporary he never made that clear so why in the first place his he taking the seals ? (I bet is not only to bring the Kage from the pure land...)

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Also recently I bought the Naruto official character data book that goes up to volume 43 of the series that was written by Kishi himself, in the profile of the Sage of the Six Paths it says...

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Could Kishi be leaving us a opening here ? By asking us and himself if Hagoromo should be evil or not. Guess we will found out in the near future !

Well none the less that's a great theory, loved the part of the Hyuga curse mark and how Hagoromo used it !

 

[UnknownJin]

great theory man.. there was smth wierd at the end of the last chapter with Hagoromo

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Seems legit:

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[Zealous Sparks]

Seems legit:

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Shadyromo.
lol Too coincidental.

Very nice read! As too my opinion on the matter, I also believe that Hagoromo is nifty. To me this latest chapter showcased a very strange occurrence.

Spoiler

Hagoromo getting the Yin and Yang seals back was just too awkward, he just gave them to Naruto and Sasuke, he never said it was temporary he never made that clear so why in the first place his he taking the seals ? (I bet is not only to bring the Kage from the pure land...)

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Also recently I bought the Naruto official character data book that goes up to volume 43 of the series that was written by Kishi himself, in the profile of the Sage of the Six Paths it says...

Spoiler

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Could Kishi be leaving us a opening here ? By asking us and himself if Hagoromo should be evil or not. Guess we will found out in the near future !

Well none the less that's a great theory, loved the part of the Hyuga curse mark and how Hagoromo used it !

Nice find with the databook. Perhaps Kishi had previously planned the possibility of a villain Hagoromo, and that is the meaning of the vague creator or destroyer statement. It also reminds me of the legends that originally surrounded the Rinnegan as stated by Jiraiya:

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[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Something to ponder about: The redemptive character of Kishi's writing style would've made Hagoromo make peace with Kaguya and yet he is contented to repeat history and reseal her again which offers no true finality to this plot point, therefore in respect to this particular instance, Hagoromo is not morally right, which gives credence to the hypothesis that he is not fully benevolent.

 

[Zealous Sparks]

Something to ponder about: The redemptive character of Kishi's writing style would've made Hagoromo make peace with Kaguya and yet he is contented to repeat history and reseal her again which offers no true finality to this plot point, therefore in respect to this particular instance, Hagoromo is not morally right, which gives credence to the hypothesis that he is not fully benevolent.

Remember during the conversation between Hagoromo and Naruto that Hagoromo referred to the Juubi as the physical incarnation of the Holy Tree. When we learned from BZ that Kaguya was a part of the Juubi, we were under the impression that Hagoromo was not fully aware of this, at least according to BZ :

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If Hagoromo just recently learned that his mother was a part of the beast which he sealed, don't you think he would want to at least speak to her? Instead he seems happy knowing that his mother has been sealed.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Remember during the conversation between Hagoromo and Naruto that Hagoromo referred to the Juubi as the physical incarnation of the Holy Tree. When we learned from BZ that Kaguya was a part of the Juubi, we were under the impression that Hagoromo was not fully aware of this, at least according to BZ :

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If Hagoromo just recently learned that his mother was a part of the beast which he sealed, don't you think he would want to at least speak to her? Instead he seems happy knowing that his mother has been sealed.

I seriously doubt he wasn't aware his mommy was the 10b even before. And yes, even if we assume for the sake of argument that he didn't know it was her before, he would've certainly know it already when she appeared since he is constantly watching the current events.

 

[dizzynaruto]

I seriously doubt he wasn't aware his mommy was the 10b even before. And yes, even if we assume for the sake of argument that he didn't know it was her before, he would've certainly know it already when she appeared since he is constantly watching the current events.

I agree, he has been watching, so how couldn't he know?


Evil Hagoromo FTW :devil:

 

[Honord Sage]

Who is going to revive Hagoromo? Who is going to give up their life for Hagoromo? He is dead and the dead can't use the Tail Beast be a Host.

 

[Rohan]

Who is going to revive Hagoromo? Who is going to give up their life for Hagoromo? He is dead and the dead can't use the Tail Beast be a Host.

This is how it will play out :-

1) Madara is extremely weakened.

2) Spiral Zetsu (Hagoromo's or Shinju's will) takes over Madara and Rinne-Tensei's Hagoromo.

3) Hagoromo is revived in his prime and he goes after Madara's Rinnegan and the Juubi to obtain his complete powers.

Makes sense ?

 

[Draxus]

This is how it will play out :-

1) Madara is extremely weakened.

2) Spiral Zetsu (Hagoromo's or Shinju's will) takes over Madara and Rinne-Tensei's Hagoromo.

3) Hagoromo is revived in his prime and he goes after Madara's Rinnegan and the Juubi to obtain his complete powers.

Makes sense ?

number 3 makes no sense because a) why would he be in his prime and b) he already has rinnegan.

 

[Uchiha DNA]

your theory is really awesome, though i don't see kishi pulling off team7 vs hagoromo, backstory of hamura, madara getting tnj'ed and naruto vs sasuke in 10 chapters.

 

[Rohan]

number 3 makes no sense because a) why would he be in his prime and b) he already has rinnegan.

a) It's quite logical that a person will be most powerful in his prime; and Rinne-Tensei will mostly revive you in your prime (Not sure though). Still; Hagoromo would want a prime body to awaken his full potential.

b) I believe that his Rinnegan is fake similar to Edo Madara and it will shatter upon his revival forcing him to take Madara's Rinnegan.

 

[Zol]

I really can't wait for the chapter if only to shut this Hagoromo=villain crap down. Honestly...

 

[DrSexy]

I really can't wait for the chapter if only to shut this Hagoromo=villain crap down. Honestly...

what if it shuts YOU up instead

 

[Hyuga Prodigy]

I'm not a fan of Hagoromo becoming the FV but this thread was the best plausible theories I've read, Vega you never fail to impress me, I mean especially in this current situation Hagoromo being good is making hard to believe he's "Evil" in a sense that willingly to do a harm in order to achieve what is believed to be a good goal which is the belief that one with enough power can -make- or -force- everything to be good. You made me convinced that Hagoromo are too sketchy possibly against the natural order of the universe and that your actions, no matter how well intentioned, will end up being destructive.
I can speculate that the Rinnegan came about from Kaguya's desire to see the end to human suffering - the power of the fruit is the power to "cast the shadow of destiny" - it is the essence of True Yang. The Rinnegan is the manifestation of the fruit's attempt to answer Kaguya's desire. But there were unexpected consequences. There is a reason Kaguya was not supposed to involve herself with the affairs of humans and was merely to do her duty to consume the fruit and ascend to the realm of divine beings. She did not. Her wish will end up being fulfilled - but not quite in the way she expected. Just as Hagoromo was born into existence by the power of the fruit - so, too, was the one who would ensure the natural cycle of the Holy Tree be restored. Also cast within this same shadow was the one with which his destiny is shared - the one who will do as Kaguya and cast the new shadow of destiny.

I do not think the Hyuuga draw their lineage back to Hamura - but instead have a more direct link back to the Ototsuki. Or perhaps it is both - the Ototsuki lineage became the Main Family while the Hamura lineage became the Branch Family.


Anyway +Rep for you, I had enjoyed reading your plauisble theory

 

[Zol]

what if it shuts YOU up instead

Not gonna happen...

 

[DrSexy]

Not gonna happen...

I will hold you to this.
I'll be making a thread about you if you fail.