[Discussion] Rank the 9 demon gates

[90sKids98]

Silver does not solo Torafusa, because the latter breaks out of all his ice and punches him a single time to KO him. Kyouka also breaks out of his ice, and cuts him down, Tempesta ALSO breaks out of his ice, and sets him on fire, followed by smashing a lighting bolt upon him and finally a tornado to seal the deal. I agree that he beats Ezel, he can also beat Sayla, since her durability is even worse then his, and he can defeat Keith. He can also defeat Jackal. Mard Geer curbstomps him, its not even up for debate, the guy is in a whole other league.

That is, if he even manages to freeze those demons, its highly doubtable, as they are all fast.

You do realize there is a reason its called Ice DEMON SLAYING Magic. It damages any devil like creature more than it would to something else. Meaning if the demons were frozen once by Silver, they probably either wont get out or will be severly weakened after thawing out. Kyouka's Curse wouldn't affect Silver because he's just a dead corpse. Torafusa would also lose because that water doesnt really affect demons (as shown with tempesta) and Silver can most likely freeze the water, along with Torafusa. The only problem is the defense he has. Tempesta is an interesting one but in the end Silver can probably beat him with the DS Magic. Fire can't melt the ice.

Fail, Silver can't defeat Keith because Keith created Silver as a corpse. Sayla solos eith Macro sorry. Jackal and Franmalth are fodder at this point imo so Silver solos. His Demon Slaying Magic solo'd most of the 9, idk whats so hard to understand. We just know that he wouldnt have been able to defeat Mard Geer on his own, and most likely END

 

[riley freeman]

Clear bias, which should not get in the way of your judgment.



Yes, Silver wanted Gray to win, that does not mean he let him win. Huge difference.
Great durability? Dude he was paralyzed after the attack, his durability is trash, throwing steel ball is probably the equivalent, A single punch from Steel Gajeel is the equivalent of the steel ball Gray threw, and Torafusa tanked it straight to the face with relative ease, despite all the other attacks he endured prior to it. Tempesta tanked Natsu's strongest attack, also with relative ease. They all reacted, they just did not bother following him because they had other opponents to deal with. And when has he wer teleported? Atlas Flame literally melted ALL his ice, I don't know what your talking about, and that was just a small chunk of Atlas Flames soul. Flare was able to destroy some of his ice. Insta freeze does not exist, its a fan made move that fans think can one shot anyone, when in reality, it can't, it was canceled out by Gray's ice. Show me Silver killing even one demon and then we can talk. Confidence woud get him nowhere, he would get beat by half the 9DG, and curbstomped by Mard Geer, I can't imagine how badly END woud fodderize him.

-If Silver wanted Gray to win, then he wouldn't try to win, meaning he would indirectly let Gray win
-Name people in ft who would survive a whole in the chest? that's a good durability feat right there
- Reread the chapter were he grabbed gray, that's were he teleported
-He froze an entire village plus its eternal flame and natsu( an OP fire user) couldn't even melt it meaning it would be almost impossible for demons to melt it
-When I said instant freeze I meant how fast he freezes things, so fast natsu couldn't even react( and that was just with a simple hand movement), plus he froze the whole area where him and gray fought in like 1 or 2 seconds
-He is also strong, he gave Gray alittle flick and it sent gray flying plus his agility and footspeed seem to be among the best in ft
-Plus he looks like he can handle himself well even without his powers, his combat skills are solid
-By feats, he deserves to be ranked #1
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[Killua Zoldyck]

-If Silver wanted Gray to win, then he wouldn't try to win, meaning he would indirectly let Gray win
-Name people in ft who would survive a whole in the chest? that's a good durability feat right there
- Reread the chapter were he grabbed gray, that's were he teleported
-He froze an entire village plus its eternal flame and natsu( an OP fire user) couldn't even melt it meaning it would be almost impossible for demons to melt it
-When I said instant freeze I meant how fast he freezes things, so fast natsu couldn't even react( and that was just with a simple hand movement), plus he froze the whole area where him and gray fought in like 1 or 2 seconds
-He is also strong, he gave Gray alittle flick and it sent gray flying plus his agility and footspeed seem to be among the best in ft
-Plus he looks like he can handle himself well even without his powers, his combat skills are solid
-By feats, he deserves to be ranked #1
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-But he did try, if he let Gray win, he would have not been eating his ice. He had to try so that Keith wouldn't make any moves.
-Survive a whole in the chest? You seem to forget he was a zombie, and that's not durability, if he was durable, then he woud have not got the hole in the chest to begin with.
-Flare, Minerva, a Treasure Hunter and a black bird have all broken Silvers ice, so Natsu can as well.
-Natsu was confused with why he had the same scent as Silver, it was not even a fight.
-that's strong? Torafusa sent Gajeel flying, he sent him flying so hard he broke the floor he was smashed against. That's strong.
-No he does not, you guys have to stop letting bias getting in the way. Silvers feats are not that great, most certainly not better then the likes of Torafusa, Tempesta, Franmalth and Kyouka.

You do realize there is a reason its called Ice DEMON SLAYING Magic. It damages any devil like creature more than it would to something else. Meaning if the demons were frozen once by Silver, they probably either wont get out or will be severly weakened after thawing out. Kyouka's Curse wouldn't affect Silver because he's just a dead corpse. Torafusa would also lose because that water doesnt really affect demons (as shown with tempesta) and Silver can most likely freeze the water, along with Torafusa. The only problem is the defense he has. Tempesta is an interesting one but in the end Silver can probably beat him with the DS Magic. Fire can't melt the ice.

Natsu had dragon slaying magic, did he beat a Dragon? No. They might be hurt more then usuall sure, but we are taking about characters who have tanked Natsu's secret art or a steel punch to the face with absolute ease, even demon slaying magic won't be doing much. A single attack from either characters that I have mentioned take out Silver. Kyouka's curse would still affect Silver, just like Gray hurt him, as can she. Torafusa does not even need his water curse to beat Silver, Silver can't even phase him in his "harder then Iron" form and a single punch from Torafusa would KO Silver, seeing as how he matched ISD Gajeels physical strength in his base Etherious form. Of course fire can melt the ice, do you understand that FLARE broke some of his ice? FLARE? A FODDER. I don't understand day its nessesary to overrate his ice to this extent.

Fail, Silver can't defeat Keith because Keith created Silver as a corpse. Sayla solos eith Macro sorry. Jackal and Franmalth are fodder at this point imo so Silver solos. His Demon Slaying Magic solo'd most of the 9, idk whats so hard to understand. We just know that he wouldnt have been able to defeat Mard Geer on his own, and most likely END

And? Sayla gets frozen before using Macro, her durability is trash so she won't be capable of surviving it. Franmalth takes Silver out with a simple Amaterasu formula, which is most certainly stronger then a steel ball lmao. Show me where Silver has ever solo'd most of the 9 Demons, as far as feats go, no, if its your fan fiction you are talking about, then sure.

 

[90sKids98]

-But he did try, if he let Gray win, he would have not been eating his ice. He had to try so that Keith wouldn't make any moves.
-Survive a whole in the chest? You seem to forget he was a zombie, and that's not durability, if he was durable, then he woud have not got the hole in the chest to begin with.
-Flare, Minerva, a Treasure Hunter and a black bird have all broken Silvers ice, so Natsu can as well.
-Natsu was confused with why he had the same scent as Silver, it was not even a fight.
-that's strong? Torafusa sent Gajeel flying, he sent him flying so hard he broke the floor he was smashed against. That's strong.
-No he does not, you guys have to stop letting bias getting in the way. Silvers feats are not that great, most certainly not better then the likes of Torafusa, Tempesta, Franmalth and Kyouka.



Natsu had dragon slaying magic, did he beat a Dragon? No. They might be hurt more then usuall sure, but we are taking about characters who have tanked Natsu's secret art or a steel punch to the face with absolute ease, even demon slaying magic won't be doing much. A single attack from either characters that I have mentioned take out Silver. Kyouka's curse would still affect Silver, just like Gray hurt him, as can she. Torafusa does not even need his water curse to beat Silver, Silver can't even phase him in his "harder then Iron" form and a single punch from Torafusa would KO Silver, seeing as how he matched ISD Gajeels physical strength in his base Etherious form. Of course fire can melt the ice, do you understand that FLARE broke some of his ice? FLARE? A FODDER. I don't understand day its nessesary to overrate his ice to this extent.



And? Sayla gets frozen before using Macro, her durability is trash so she won't be capable of surviving it. Franmalth takes Silver out with a simple Amaterasu formula, which is most certainly stronger then a steel ball lmao. Show me where Silver has ever solo'd most of the 9 Demons, as far as feats go, no, if its your fan fiction you are talking about, then sure.

Crap. I accidentally put "solod" instead of "solos". But no, Silver didnt even doe from Gray's attack, nor did he show any real pain afterwards. He said his body would give up on itself at any moment, but that didnt happen until Juvia Killed Keith. Therefore it shows that all someone good do is damage a dead corpse, I dont think it sense any real pain (like Edo Tensei). I guess you could say then Torafusa is Debatable, but I know Silver can defeat Tempesta.

Sayla's Macro Ability allows her to easily manipulate Silver probably (especially bc he's justa corpse). Current Franmalth loses to Silver, but before yeah he would have solo'd Silver. Jackal is fodder at this point to me so Silver defeats him. Keith is still a no since Keith is Silver's Master technically.

 

[-Akuma-]

Ummm no he did not, he went all out against him, if he had let him win, he would have not eaten all the ice that was being thrown at him, and he had no way of knowing that Gray carried around or would have picked up a steel ball.

His durability is the second worst out of all the 9DG. He does not have good strength or speed. All he has is his ice, and only worked on a worn out base Natsu who was surprised because plot demanded that Natsu was captured, but in reality, it could not even work on Gray, most 9DG would be capable of breaking out, others would simply dodge, there is a reason why he did not simply freeze all the other demons, that reason is because he knew they would break out, and his mission would be compromised.

No he never, he let him win he wanted to test Gray. Hence why Silver was 'torturing' Gray instead of just finishing him off. His durability isn't the worst out ot the 9DG, since Kieth was already said to be the weakest. His strength and speed is okay or he would fo been blitzed by Gray and wasn't he able to easily smack around some of Gray's Ice make. He one shotted Ntasu nuff said, he was worn out by Silver used a nameless attacked, and Natsu wasn't able to break out after. No you have no evidence to suggest the 9DG could break out considering he was able to freeze apart of Atlas and his ice couldn't be melted by Natsu. Silver wasn't aiming for the 9DG he was aiming or E.N.D, you have no evidence to back up any of your statment. Plus Franmalth was scared shitless of Silver which implies heavily he was stronger than him, and he's one of the stronger 9DG.

 

[Killua Zoldyck]

After the most recent chapter, I would agree that Silver can beat any of the 9DG Demons 1 Vs 1. But he is still weaker then Kyouka, Torafusa and Franmalth in terms of overall power.

 

[-Akuma-]

After the most recent chapter, I would agree that Silver can beat any of the 9DG Demons 1 Vs 1. But he is still weaker then Kyouka, Torafusa and Franmalth in terms of overall power.

How? Don't see how any are stronger unless you're talking about physical strength.

 

[Killua Zoldyck]

How? Don't see how any are stronger unless you're talking about physical strength.

Torafusa is better in nearly every single way.
Kyouka is better in nearly every single way.
Franmalth is borderline OP.

 

[-Akuma-]

Torafusa is better in nearly every single way.
Kyouka is better in nearly every single way.
Franmalth is borderline OP.

Torfusa only has better physical strength and defence, Kyouka only has better physical strength. And Franmlath was scared shitless of Silver.

 

[Cosmicstars]

If I had to rank the 9DG gates I would say:

Framarth
Sayla
Jackal
Silver
Tempesta
Torafusa
Kyouka
Ezel
Keith



Framarth has Hades Soul and can absorb Magic and us it against you making him kind of strong against magic users.
Sayla Macro is absolute allowing her to take control of others and her Demon form is pretty badass.
Jackal can make things explode so yea. He can make an attack explode(Not all but most) and even trap a person within an explosive.
Silver ice magic is cool but it makes zero sense. Outside of his instant freeze it is basic level.
Tempesta demon partices and control over different elements like Fire, Lightning and wind puts him here.
Torafusa black water of death is pretty impressive.
Kyouka has good durability
Ezel is a can slice through wind which I guess is impressive.
Keith can bring back the dead and erode peoples body(I think)